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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 23:56:24 GMT
Question. How do you treat food service workers? Tip, little to no tip? Look down upon them? Constantly complaining about your food or asking for extra rolls and butter and for your water refilled? Or treat them with the utmost respect? Another question - you do know that people 'screw' with your food right? Paying my way through college, bartending was a trait I falled back on and still keep in my back pocket. Can tell some horror stories, which I'm sure we probably all can growing up. Ordering for delivery, going out to eat, etc - I'd always make it a point to leave a 'healthy tip'. We're talking about food here people - it's the one necessity other than shelter and air and I don't want somebody either spitting or sticking their unit in my food. Are you a 'high maintenance' eater? I.E. - send food back - complain to the 'help' - not the best tipper? And are you aware these people do have the capability to 'screw' with your food? I've had this discussion with high maintenance eaters numerous times - some of which were family 'Just shut up - and eat your food! - It's not worth it when they take it back!' I just ordered a cheesesteak stromboli for delvery with green peppers, extra cheese, light sauce, mushrooms and fried onions. What I got was a well done stromboli with no pepps, onions, 'shrooms and an abundance of sauce. Big picture. Choose your battles wisely and win the wars - think I want somebody spitting (or doing worse) to my next order? Thoughts? Discuss
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Post by MCDemuth on Jan 28, 2018 0:51:27 GMT
20 Years ago, I used to work for a pizza shop, and ran pizza deliveries. Since we used our personal cars to make the deliveries, we were allowed tips...
During the winter, We risked our vehicles and our lives in the cold, driving on snow & ice, to deliver food... (I slid into a stop sign once during a delivery...)
Nothing was worse than this one house, that had wooden stars that was covered with ice. And you couldn't grab the handrail, while trying to carry (four large drinks, a few pizzas, breadsticks and some pasta and sandwiches) up those slick stairs... To add "insult to injury", they never tipped, and when they did, it was the traditional "Keep The change", concerning that single frickin' penny that was left over...
At least that customer didn't make me count back all of their change in the dark, when they didn't have their porch light on. (Whicht happened to me a few times with other customers.)
I may have been doing a "job", but the customers didn't need to be dicks about it.
ALL the drivers quickly knew who the good customers were, and who were not... We even had a short hand: "Those Wooden Stairs" was enough for use to know who the customer was.
For every delivery run, with two or more orders... someone has to be first, and someone has to be last... And So, the Good Tippers always had their food delivered before the bad tippers.
I never messed with the customer's food, but there were time that I sure wanted to! But that was me. I have no idea what the other drivers did...
I'm not saying that customers should bend over backwards and generously tip, but a little bit of consideration is greatly appreciated for ANY service employee that is having to do just a little bit more than most. At least salt your stairs, and turn on your porch lights (or whatever)...
Here is a hint for you all...
Show your appreciation for service employees during the holidays... Getting Two to Three dollar tips throughout the year was wonderful... But when "Santa Claus" would tip us $5.00 or or more, we all couldn't wait to be the driver that would bust our butts to deliver the freshest & hottest food to him.
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Post by MCDemuth on Jan 28, 2018 1:00:40 GMT
By The Way...
The Protocol for tipping at restaurants... used to be, that you always leave a tip...
If you had bad service, you are supposed to leave them ONE PENNY, turned face down.
This way, the server will know that you didn't forget to tip them, and they will know that they gave you bad service.
That is, if you can find a penny in your pocket, these days. LOL!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 1:05:07 GMT
jesse jackson came out years ago and stated he spit in somebodies food.
again - this isn't condoning it - we were all young and struggling at times.
which is my fear when you go out to eat with 'high maintenance' people who send food back or complain.
i'm easy - just shut up and eat your food!
ryen reynolds - justin long - this goes on EVERYWHERE
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 1:07:51 GMT
By The Way... The Protocol for tipping at restaurants... used to be, that you always leave a tip... If you had bad service, you are supposed to leave them ONE PENNY, turned face down. This way, the server will know that you didn't forget to tip them, and they will know that they gave you bad service. That is, if you can find a penny in your pocket, these days. LOL! awesome way to get hunted down by this psychopath at the end of her shift:
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Post by msdemos on Jan 28, 2018 1:29:20 GMT
I've never sent food back, not because I'm afraid of what workers will do to it, but simply because I've never gotten anything that was so bad, or so 'wrong', that I ever felt the need. I consider myself a good, not great tipper (pretty much always 20% as long as the service wasn't bad (and if it was, I still always left a tip.....but then, probably only 10-15%), and if it was (truly) exceptional service, anywhere from 30-40%). The one "bad" thing I do to restaurant servers, is CONSTANTLY get soda refills........I drink A LOT of soda when I'm out to eat (sometimes as many as 5 or 6), and it's the one thing I "expect" from my server, if they want a decent tip. If they do a good job (always around, and 'willing' to get as many as I ask for over the course of the meal, I usually add an additional 10% to the tip......in fact, I've had a few servers who 'catch on', and automatically grab my glass as soon as it's empty, and refill it without my even having to ask. The few times that has happened, I REALLY gave them a good tip!). The only 'bad' experience I've ever had with asking for so many soda refills, happened only about a year ago at a popular restaurant here in the Milwaukee area. After I had asked for my third refill, the waitress stopped, and actually said to me, "Okay, I'll get this last one.......but then I'm going to have to start charging you for each one after that!". Now, if the place had been packed, and she was extremely busy, I MIGHT have accepted that.....but it wasn't. She had MAYBE two or three other tables the entire time my son and I were there (probably a total of about an hour). But, I didn't say anything then, just drank the last refill, and we left. But, on my way out, before paying, I asked for the manager, and confirmed with her that refills were ALL free, and then told her what the waitress had told me when she decided she wasn't going to keep 'running' for me.....BUT, BEING VERY CAREFUL to make SURE the manager knew the waitress had done a good job otherwise. As it was, the waitress got about a 15% tip, which for me isn't great, but not awful.... SAVE FERRIS
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 1:48:23 GMT
I've never sent food back, not because I'm afraid of what workers will do to it, but simply because I've never gotten anything that was so bad, or so 'wrong', that I ever felt the need. I consider myself a good, not great tipper (pretty much always 20% as long as the service wasn't bad (and if it was, I still always left a tip.....but then, probably only 10-15%), and if it was (truly) exceptional service, anywhere from 30-40%). The one "bad" thing I do to restaurant servers, is CONSTANTLY get soda refills........I drink A LOT of soda when I'm out to eat (sometimes as many as 5 or 6), and it's the one thing I "expect" from my server, if they want a decent tip. If they do a good job (always around, and 'willing' to get as many as I ask for over the course of the meal, I usually add an additional 10% to the tip......in fact, I've had a few servers who 'catch on', and automatically grab my glass as soon as it's empty, and refill it without my even having to ask. The few times that has happened, I REALLY gave them a good tip!). The only 'bad' experience I've ever had with asking for so many soda refills, happened only about a year ago at a popular restaurant here in the Milwaukee area. After I had asked for my third refill, the waitress stopped, and actually said to me, "Okay, I'll get this last one.......but then I'm going to have to start charging you for each one after that!". Now, if the place had been packed, and she was extremely busy, I MIGHT have accepted that.....but it wasn't. She had MAYBE two or three other tables the entire time my son and I were there (probably a total of about an hour). But, I didn't say anything then, just drank the last refill, and we left. But, on my way out, before paying, I asked for the manager, and confirmed with her that refills were ALL free, and then told her what the waitress had told me when she decided she wasn't going to keep 'running' for me.....BUT, BEING VERY CAREFUL to make SURE the manager knew the waitress had done a good job otherwise. As it was, the waitress got about a 15% tip, which for me isn't great, but not awful.... SAVE FERRIScardinal sin my friend on numerous behaviors here. first and foremost - after your '3rd refill' (am i reading this right?) maybe this broad didn't have a lot of table in the FOH (front of house) but they were making her act like a tap dancing monkey in the back of the house as she made her $2.83 an hour living on tips and here you are asking for your 4th Refill. shame on you. secondly - you asked to talk a manager - pretty much just throwing this poor schlep on the bus - despite you stating the experience was an overall positive one - jesus christ - why not just act like the Frankenstein Townsfolk and and hunt this poor working class woman living in poverty down with 4 kids with a pitchfork? Feel better? thirdly? milwaukee? sure it wasn't freebie sodas you weren't trying to get or cheap and some free beer? time to take some personal inventory Bub! msdemos on her witch hunt!: 4th free refill on soda? and you're from milwaukee? or was it really this?
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Post by MCDemuth on Jan 28, 2018 2:05:30 GMT
The one "bad" thing I do to restaurant servers, is CONSTANTLY get soda refills... I must go to the restaurants you do. LOL! I don't go to restaurants often, and haven't been to one for a while, but... There have been times where I get servers that stop by every five minutes and ask if I need anything... I'll say, " I'm Fine", but I'll think: " Hey, I'm trying to eat, leave me alone." Then I'll get over-service... I have had two sips from a tall glass in 30 minutes, and then I'll be asked if I need a refill... Sometimes, they don't even ask, and just top off my water or iced tea without asking me.... (What? Seriously, There are "starving people elsewhere in the world" you know... save it for them.) I guess I have you to thank for that Over-Service. LOL! It's hard to get a nice balance of service though. It's either over-service, or the waiter seems to have been "abducted by aliens" for 30 minutes or longer.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 2:10:14 GMT
The one "bad" thing I do to restaurant servers, is CONSTANTLY get soda refills... I must go to the restaurants you do. LOL! I don't go to restaurants often, and haven't been to one for a while, but... There have been times where I get servers that stop by every five minutes and ask if I need anything... I'll say, " I'm Fine", but I'll think: " Hey, I'm trying to eat, leave me alone." Then I'll get over-service... I have had two sips from a tall glass in 30 minutes, and then I'll be asked if I need a refill... Sometimes, they don't even ask, and just top off my water or iced tea without asking me.... (What? Seriously, There are "starving people elsewhere in the world" you know... save it for them.) I guess I have you to thank for that Over-Service. LOL! It's hard to get a nice balance of service though. It's either over-service, or the waiter seems to have been "abducted by aliens" for 30 minutes or longer. beautiful. eloquently stated. this is where us as 'eaters' need to find a happy balance of what is expected in terms of over the top 'serivce' and being 'left alone'
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 28, 2018 2:18:14 GMT
I'll send food back if it's grossly messed up. Onions or mustard when I specifically said "no mustard or onion". Hamburger undercooked, steak overcooked, etc. Shit to the point where I can't eat it. Even then, it won't affect my tip. Anyone can mess up. What will affect my tip is shitty service. Waitress disappearing. Or the hovering waitress. Usually, I'll tell a waitress, very nicely, when we need you, we will let you know. If she comes back two minutes later, interrupting my conversation, woe to her/him. And an attitude will make a tip, except the penny, disappear. The sigh is the big one. Ask a waiter/waitress to do something and you get "SIGH, yes Sir".
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Post by staggerstag on Jan 28, 2018 2:25:38 GMT
When I went to the USA for the first time to stay with family I was tipping everyone in sight, because I had seen it done countless times on TV and at cinemas. In bars I would get my drink and not even wait for the change, no matter how many times I went up for more. The mailman delivered a package to my aunt's house one morning while I was alone and I gave him two dollars. One of my cousins kept telling me to take it easy but I felt compelled to keep tipping everyone. Things finally came to a head when my cousin took me to Wal-Mart for the first time and he physically restrained me from handing a buck to the meet and greet old fellow as you entered the store. I calmed down after that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 2:29:40 GMT
I only sent something back once, when I realized it came with something I didn't like. It was my fault and I told them I'd pay for it, but they still comped it.
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 28, 2018 2:37:53 GMT
I've never sent food back because, in restaurants at least, the order has never been wrong that I can recall. Takeout is a different matter - occasionally the order can be slightly wrong but at that point I consider it too late to complain. So I'll either avoid that particular takeout in future, or more likely, just trust that next time will be better.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 2:42:16 GMT
I'll send food back if it's grossly messed up. Onions or mustard when I specifically said "no mustard or onion". Hamburger undercooked, steak overcooked, etc. Shit to the point where I can't eat it. Even then, it won't affect my tip. Anyone can mess up. What will affect my tip is shitty service. Waitress disappearing. Or the hovering waitress. Usually, I'll tell a waitress, very nicely, when we need you, we will let you know. If she comes back two minutes later, interrupting my conversation, woe to her/him. And an attitude will make a tip, except the penny, disappear. The sigh is the big one. Ask a waiter/waitress to do something and you get "SIGH, yes Sir". i consider myself a 'foodie' - i love to eat - and found it astonishing you can still eat healthy and 'good'. eat healthy now in moderation while pounding light beer (michelob ultra) - but do 'spoil' myself a couple of times a month. you do know they're rubbing their d*ck on your food and spitting on your food when you send it back right?
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Post by deembastille on Jan 28, 2018 2:47:01 GMT
my father once made a teenage waitress cause she couldn't get the head of his precious beer right. [no head. no head at all]
even at 12 i was so embarrassed. she is crying and all i can think is telling her to keep crying. cry for the kids who have this monster raising them!
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 28, 2018 2:58:24 GMT
I'll send food back if it's grossly messed up. Onions or mustard when I specifically said "no mustard or onion". Hamburger undercooked, steak overcooked, etc. Shit to the point where I can't eat it. Even then, it won't affect my tip. Anyone can mess up. What will affect my tip is shitty service. Waitress disappearing. Or the hovering waitress. Usually, I'll tell a waitress, very nicely, when we need you, we will let you know. If she comes back two minutes later, interrupting my conversation, woe to her/him. And an attitude will make a tip, except the penny, disappear. The sigh is the big one. Ask a waiter/waitress to do something and you get "SIGH, yes Sir". i consider myself a 'foodie' - i love to eat - and found it astonishing you can still eat healthy and 'good'. eat healthy now in moderation while pounding light beer (michelob ultra) - but do 'spoil' myself a couple of times a month. you do know they're rubbing their d*ck on your food and spitting on your food when you send it back right? I've maybe sent back food three to six times in my life. I hate onions. I sent back a charred steak because I knew the guy that cooked it. There was an urban myth (I hope) of a restaurant chain here where the waitresses saved used tampons to squeeze out on orders of "problem customers". Something that bizarre has to be an urban myth. Like finding a battered fried mouse in your bucket of KFC. How's your appetite now?
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Post by sdm3 on Jan 28, 2018 3:03:09 GMT
i consider myself a 'foodie' - i love to eat - and found it astonishing you can still eat healthy and 'good'. eat healthy now in moderation while pounding light beer (michelob ultra) - but do 'spoil' myself a couple of times a month. you do know they're rubbing their d*ck on your food and spitting on your food when you send it back right? I've maybe sent back food three to six times in my life. I hate onions. I sent back a charred steak because I knew the guy that cooked it. There was an urban myth (I hope) of a restaurant chain here where the waitresses saved used tampons to squeeze out on orders of "problem customers". Something that bizarre has to be an urban myth. Like finding a battered fried mouse in your bucket of KFC. How's your appetite now? I heard stories when I was growing up of people finding chicken heads in their boxes of McNuggets, or finding that a bite had already been taken out of their Big Mac.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 3:05:24 GMT
i consider myself a 'foodie' - i love to eat - and found it astonishing you can still eat healthy and 'good'. eat healthy now in moderation while pounding light beer (michelob ultra) - but do 'spoil' myself a couple of times a month. you do know they're rubbing their d*ck on your food and spitting on your food when you send it back right? I've maybe sent back food three to six times in my life. I hate onions. I sent back a charred steak because I knew the guy that cooked it. There was an urban myth (I hope) of a restaurant chain here where the waitresses saved used tampons to squeeze out on orders of "problem customers". Something that bizarre has to be an urban myth. Like finding a battered fried mouse in your bucket of KFC. How's your appetite now? Bingo. Exactly. This is why I always say 'shut up and eat your food'. Choose your battles wisely and win your 'wars'. Want to enjoy your cheeseburger or enjoy a bloody tampon? Let's start thinkin' here folks - we can all make this an easier tomorrow
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Post by Beardy McJewsenheimer ESQ on Jan 28, 2018 3:37:09 GMT
I'm pretty low maintenance. I'm friendly and polite. When it comes to tipping I usually just try to even it out as long as it's at least 15%. Went to Outback not long ago and the bill was 82 so I just left a hundo. Usually it's something like that. 32 bucks becomes 40, etc. Remember back before smart phones you'd have the assholes that would actually bring calculators to restaurants to figure out tips because for some fucking reason they just HAD to leave exactly 13.2% or whatever fucking dumb number their dumb brain thought up? Few people deserved an ass kicking more than them.
The only thing that might make me reduce a tip is if it comes back colder than it should. Even if it takes a long time, as long as it comes back hot it's OK. That just tells me it took longer to prepare. But if it comes cold that means it was done, but they just took their sweet time bringing it.
And the only time I'd send something back is if they gave me the wrong thing. But that hasn't happened. If my steak was supposed to be Medium but ended up being Medium rare or if the food was a little over/under cooked or a little cold, It's generally not a huge deal. I mean, who am I, the Queen of England over here???
The only time I didn't leave any tip was at a Ruths Chris steakhouse in Princeton. And it was a pretty big check too. Not huge, it was just two people, but not like 60-80 at an Outback. I forget but it was at least 300 bucks. It was a young guy who was very clearly trying to flirt with my girlfriend. Even she noticed it and said something to me. That would have been like at least $50 he should have gotten, too. Instead he learned a valuable lesson. Now enjoy the night in your studio apartment while I go back to my house and bang my girlfriend.
And before anyone says something, no, he wasn't just trying to be nice. I mean, there was a noticeable disparity between how "nice" he was trying to be to me and her. And shit, I'm the one paying for the damn thing. Flatter my ass a little, Romeo!
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Post by Father Jack on Jan 28, 2018 6:54:57 GMT
In Britain we are too polite to complain in restaurants.
When waiters ask if everything is OK, we reply "It's lovely thank you" then complain about the minging food to each other when they have left the table.
But seriously, it's hard low paid yakka being a waiter/waitress. Always treat them with respect and courtesy kids, and always give them a tip in cash, never on a card👍
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