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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 28, 2018 7:32:02 GMT
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Post by darkpast on Jan 28, 2018 8:05:42 GMT
most overrated of awards season, would rather see The Big Sick in there
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Post by politicidal on Jan 28, 2018 18:48:49 GMT
I'm surprised that Detroit didn't score any nominations.
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Post by tresix on Jan 28, 2018 21:58:17 GMT
Does the same apply for "Lady Bird"?
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Post by jonesjxd on Jan 29, 2018 1:41:40 GMT
Dumb argument. The Academy isn't just nominating Get Out to pacify social justice warriors on twitter. You all need to understand the Academy voter base is getting younger, not older. They're adding new members every year, and older members are either dying or being removed because they aren't in the industry anymore. We're going to see more populist movies nominated in coming years, we'll see more niche movies nominated, we're going to see more movies that speak to younger generations nominated. If you're going to use the Fox News argument on Get Out or Greta Gerwig's nomination, whats the Fox News argument for the "fish fucking" movie getting 13 nominations, or how about Paul Thomas Anderson's bizarro 1950's set neurotic romcom getting nominated?
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 29, 2018 3:09:02 GMT
So the Awards will become meaningless, huh?
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Post by mikef6 on Jan 29, 2018 3:33:41 GMT
Of course we all know that anytime a person of color or woman gets a major Oscar nomination it is simply PC and politics.
If the nominations are all white males, then we can be sure they are deserved. Right, trumpizoids?
By next year you will saying that the Best Actress nominations are just politics because only women got them.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 29, 2018 3:35:58 GMT
Of course we all know that anytime a person of color or woman gets a major Oscar nomination it is simply PC and politics. If the nominations are all white males, then we can be sure they are deserved. Right, trumpizoids? By next year you will saying that the Best Actress nominations are just politics because only women got them. Does it take an effort to be this stupid? You don't have to be a conservative to thin Get Out is overrated as hell, with some pieces of shit even calling it the best horror movie ever.
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Post by mikef6 on Jan 29, 2018 4:02:30 GMT
Of course we all know that anytime a person of color or woman gets a major Oscar nomination it is simply PC and politics. If the nominations are all white males, then we can be sure they are deserved. Right, trumpizoids? By next year you will saying that the Best Actress nominations are just politics because only women got them. Does it take an effort to be this stupid? You don't have to be a conservative to thin Get Out is overrated as hell, with some pieces of shit even calling it the best horror movie ever. Did you ever think about the word "overrated"? Do you think the people - critics and audiences - who loved the film don't know their own minds? To you, they don't. They can't rate a movie. They "overrate" things. That's bullcrap. If someone loves a film, that is how they rate it. Whether you liked it or not, they exactly rated the movie according to their own perception. In a world where opinion is all and there is no right or wrong in what you like or how you rate, there are people like you who say that others are wrong. You say that if others do not have the same opinion as you, they have "overrated" the movie. To you, it is YOUR opinion that is fact. Anyone who disagrees with you "overrates" things. That is all "overrate" means. In other words, it means nothing and my original post stands. You have overrated yourself. To denigrate a work only because the producers/directors/actors were black or women is, to put it mildly, mainstream conservatism. That is the kind of thing they want to preserve.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 29, 2018 4:28:24 GMT
Does it take an effort to be this stupid? You don't have to be a conservative to thin Get Out is overrated as hell, with some pieces of shit even calling it the best horror movie ever. Did you ever think about the word "overrated"? Do you think the people - critics and audiences - who loved the film don't know their own minds? To you, they don't. They can't rate a movie. They "overrate" things. That's bullcrap. If someone loves a film, that is how they rate it. Whether you liked it or not, they exactly rated the movie according to their own perception. In a world where opinion is all and there is no right or wrong in what you like or how you rate, there are people like you who say that others are wrong. You say that if others do not have the same opinion as you, they have "overrated" the movie. To you, it is YOUR opinion that is fact. Anyone who disagrees with you "overrates" things. That is all "overrate" means. In other words, it means nothing and my original post stands. You have overrated yourself. To denigrate a work only because the producers/directors/actors were black or women is, to put it mildly, mainstream conservatism. That is the kind of thing they want to preserve. First off it was YOU who said anything about women. Secondly, sure... audiences loved a lot of movies this past year like Jumanji, Logan, Wonder Woman... but you don't see Patty Jenkins nominated do you? If anyone deserved to be nominated it was her, but that's okay her movie is just a dumb comic book movie to "critics". As you said, opinions are all there is, but what do they know better than the people who actually watches the movies in question? There is something called "Oscar bait" after all, if you didn't now that... I mean... Get Out is pretty much The Skeleton Key with politics inserted into it.
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Post by Salzmank on Jan 29, 2018 4:33:11 GMT
As the Great Knock would say, we have to define our terms, lad. What does overrated mean in this context?
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Post by poelzig on Jan 29, 2018 4:39:51 GMT
Of course we all know that anytime a person of color or woman gets a major Oscar nomination it is simply PC and politics. If the nominations are all white males, then we can be sure they are deserved. Right, trumpizoids? By next year you will saying that the Best Actress nominations are just politics because only women got them. Instead of constantly patting yourself on the back for seeing a movie and hyperbolicaly worshiping it, why don't you try actually interacting with some swarthy folks for once? I promise we're not scary. Get Out is a solid movie but it's derivative and overrated. What is it with silly white liberals always having to be so damn ridiculous? Someone thinks Get Out is not Oscar worthy so your dumb ass immediately jumps to they are a "trumpizoid" that hates all women and minorities? Since liberals are OVERWHELMINGLY the ones in Hollywood raping women and kids shouldn't you be feigning OUTRAGE about them? I mean that's the more recent cause de jour, right? With guys like you that's most important. Oh wait. I shouldn't prejudge you like you do everyone. That would be moronic. At least you like Bogie so you're not completely clueless.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 29, 2018 4:44:45 GMT
As the Great Knock would say, we have to define our terms, lad. What does overrated mean in this context? Getting more praised than it deserves.
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Post by pimpinainteasy on Jan 29, 2018 4:46:19 GMT
Of course we all know that anytime a person of color or woman gets a major Oscar nomination it is simply PC and politics. If the nominations are all white males, then we can be sure they are deserved. Right, trumpizoids? By next year you will saying that the Best Actress nominations are just politics because only women got them. lol, top post man.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 29, 2018 4:47:06 GMT
Of course we all know that anytime a person of color or woman gets a major Oscar nomination it is simply PC and politics. If the nominations are all white males, then we can be sure they are deserved. Right, trumpizoids? By next year you will saying that the Best Actress nominations are just politics because only women got them. Instead of constantly patting yourself on the back for seeing a movie and hyperbolicaly worshiping it, why don't you try actually interacting with some swarthy folks for once? I promise we're not scary. Get Out is a solid movie but it's derivative and overrated. What is it with silly white liberals always having to be so damn ridiculous? Someone thinks Get Out is not Oscar worthy so your dumb ass immediately jumps to they are a "trumpizoid" that hates all women and minorities? Since liberals are OVERWHELMINGLY the ones in Hollywood raping women and kids shouldn't you be feigning OUTRAGE about them? I mean that's the more recent cause de jour, right? With guys like you that's most important. Oh wait. I shouldn't prejudge you like you do everyone. That would be moronic. At least you like Bogie so you're not completely clueless. Funny thing is that I am the OP o this thread and I don't consider myself liberal but I can never be conservative either. Yet this guy was ready to call me a Trump worshiper for simply disliking a shitty movie.
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Post by Salzmank on Jan 29, 2018 4:55:40 GMT
gomezaddams666And what does praise mean? And what sort of praise does it deserve? Is there an objective scale? I’m not asking to be a smart aleck, but rather because I’ve been thinking about the word, as it’s used so often, and I genuinely believed it’s often misused or, perhaps, inherently flawed as a concept. We need to ground subjective value judgments in objective realities, or the former has no meaning at all.
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Post by mikef6 on Jan 29, 2018 4:57:15 GMT
Of course we all know that anytime a person of color or woman gets a major Oscar nomination it is simply PC and politics. If the nominations are all white males, then we can be sure they are deserved. Right, trumpizoids? By next year you will saying that the Best Actress nominations are just politics because only women got them. Get Out is a solid movie but it's derivative and overrated. What is it with silly white liberals always having to be so damn ridiculous? Someone thinks Get Out is not Oscar worthy so your dumb ass immediately jumps to they are a "trumpizoid" that hates all women and minorities? Read what I said about "overrated." It means nothing except if you don't like a movie then the people who do are wrong. In a world of opinion, only what you think is valid. I never said that anyone who thought Get Out was not Oscar worthy was a trumpizoid. I said that anyone who thought that the only reason it was nominated was because of the presence of black people are trumpizoids. BTW, the only thing "liberal" has come to mean is "not extreme right-wing." Today's Democratic Party platform shares many points with the 1956 platform of Republican President Eisenhower. Since Reagan, though, conservatism has slowly but surely moved to the fringes, helped by the rise of extremist "news" media - and the "liberal" position on the spectrum, has moved to the right at the same speed. So now we have Democrats who have become Republicans 60 years ago and Republicans who are gaining on Mussolini - controlling, racist, sexist, establishing a plutocracy. Me? I consider myself Common Sense, Reality Based. Something no conservative can claim. Humphrey Bogart is my hero in this, also.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 29, 2018 5:44:56 GMT
You said in another thread you have a hate of conservatives because of your parents, you're not a racional person.
Also, o define is to limit. I do not like Trump nor am I conservative by any measure, but does that mean I have to "follow and obey"? Wake the fuck up. People like you is why liberals are being mocked, and why someone as illl-faited as Trump could win. When all you do is insult the other side and claim moral superiority you're just proven how insecure and disturbingly blind you are.
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Post by mikef6 on Jan 29, 2018 6:06:43 GMT
You said in another thread you have a hate of conservatives because of your parents, you're not a racional person. Also, o define is to limit. I do not like Trump nor am I conservative by any measure, but does that mean I have to "follow and obey"? Wake the fuck up. People like you is why liberals are being mocked, and why someone as illl-faited as Trump could win. When all you do is insult the other side and claim moral superiority you're just proven how insecure and disturbingly blind you are. Maybe when sober up, you might want to re-read what you have written and edit or delete this post. Conservatives are fond of misquoting, I know. It is part of what it means to be conservative. I said that I have been a right-wing watcher for many decades, starting with my parents. I never said that I hated conservatives because of my parents. What is it that conservatives want to conserve? Racism. White supremacy. Male superiority. Segregation by race. The superiority of the rich. The laziness of the working class and poor. These and many more nasty beliefs define conservatism. Why would anyone with any sense of decency want to be identified as such.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Jan 29, 2018 6:15:46 GMT
You said in another thread you have a hate of conservatives because of your parents, you're not a racional person. Also, o define is to limit. I do not like Trump nor am I conservative by any measure, but does that mean I have to "follow and obey"? Wake the fuck up. People like you is why liberals are being mocked, and why someone as illl-faited as Trump could win. When all you do is insult the other side and claim moral superiority you're just proven how insecure and disturbingly blind you are. Maybe when sober up, you might want to re-read what you have written and edit or delete this post. Conservatives are fond of misquoting, I know. It is part of what it means to be conservative. I said that I have been a right-wing watcher for many decades, starting with my parents. I never said that I hated conservatives because of my parents. What is it that conservatives want to conserve? Racism. White supremacy. Male superiority. Segregation by race. The superiority of the rich. The laziness of the working class and poor. These and many more nasty beliefs define conservatism. Why would anyone with any sense of decency want to be identified as such. You are truly delusional, you truly see everyone is against you, don't you? I don't have to prove to some conspiracy theorist that I am not conservative. In fact, funny you didn't answer to my previous reply that it was YOU who said people were angry that women are nominated. Can you point me EXACTLY where have I stated that? is not my fault your parents probably "touched" you when you were a kid or something, but you are the true caricature of a SJW, people either fall in line and never question anything or they are right.wingers who worship Trump. The fact you are that stupid as to not realize how moronic that sounds is beyond me... I am not sorry that I am not a puppet of your masters, I m not sorry I have an opinion.
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