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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 29, 2018 21:43:23 GMT
Hey DC-Fan just letting you know that post was aimed at you too.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 29, 2018 22:31:52 GMT
Regardless of reasoning (and I disagree with yours), it doesn't matter when one discusses what lines are iconic or not. Heck, "Martha" is gearing up to be one of the most iconic lines in a superhero movie in the last few years, and that's definitely not due to its positive reception. Whatever you may feel about "I'm Marry Poppins y'all", whatever reason you think it's become popular, doesn't change the fact that it's gearing up to be pretty iconic. Not if you understand the meaning of words. "Iconic" comes from religious icons, in a wider sense it's usually defined as " widely known/established and acknowledged especially for distinctive excellence". However, neither Martha nor I'm Marry Poppins y'all would fall under this, not even close. These quotes may currently be popular Movie quotes amongst CBM nerds but they hardly qualify as "excellence" nor are they widely known and acknowledged outside of some CBM fanboys - the lines rather serve as mock lines for bad filmmaking. I never saw somebody use these in reverence, if at all they are anti-iconic. QED While it's true that most things deemed "iconic" are recognizable because of positive qualities, that is not a hard rule and there have been instances where something became iconic more due to being infamous rather than famous. For example, Adolf Hitler is a political icon and yet he's largely considered one of the vilest people who ever lived. The cross or crucifix is one of the most recognizable religious symbolic icons and yet it is an instrument of torture and death. In any case, you're the only person I know of who associated the line "I'm Marry Poppins y'all" to something negative. And in the greater scheme of things, your opinion means jack. It's still a widely recognizable phrase given the short span of time it's been out. I don't consider it iconic at the moment, but mainly because it's very new, same with Martha. But considering how widely recognizable they've become in the short span of time they've been out, I can easily see them becoming very iconic lines in the years to come.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 30, 2018 1:22:31 GMT
These are the 4 most iconic lines or quotes that most people are familiar with or remember the most in superhero movies and TV shows: 1. "Look up in the sky! It's a bird...It's a plane...No, it's Superman!" ( Adventures of Superman TV series) 2. "Faster than a speeding bullet. More powerful than a locomotive. Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound." ( Adventures of Superman TV series) 3. "Kneel before Zod!" ( Superman II) 4. "With great power comes great responsibility." ( Spider-Man) AARP members might remember the first three. These days the most “iconic” line in a superhero movie might actually be, “Martha!”.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 30, 2018 2:02:49 GMT
Nice list, but "Avengers assemble!" should be removed since that line was never actually said. Cap tried to say it at the end of AoU but got cut off. So since that line was never actually said, it has to be removed from the list. Since the list is not confined to just movies then no it doesn't as it is regularly said in the animated series If it's only said in animated series, then it should definitely be removed from the list. Because to be iconic, most people have to be familiar with it. And most people don't watch animated series. So most people aren't familiar with that quote. So it should definitely be removed from the list.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 30, 2018 2:12:07 GMT
Since the list is not confined to just movies then no it doesn't as it is regularly said in the animated series If it's only said in animated series, then it should definitely be removed from the list. Because to be iconic, most people have to be familiar with it. And most people don't watch animated series. So most people aren't familiar with that quote. So it should definitely be removed from the list. And yet you yourself used a TV series in your examples. It's pretty obvious you're applying a double standard in favor of DC.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 30, 2018 2:30:28 GMT
If it's only said in animated series, then it should definitely be removed from the list. Because to be iconic, most people have to be familiar with it. And most people don't watch animated series. So most people aren't familiar with that quote. So it should definitely be removed from the list. And yet you yourself used a TV series in your examples. It's pretty obvious you're applying a double standard in favor of DC. Those TV series aren't animated series. And those first 2 quotes are so iconic that most people have heard of them and know what the quotes referred to. Those first 2 quotes are as well-known as any quotes from Shakespeare.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 30, 2018 2:34:14 GMT
And yet you yourself used a TV series in your examples. It's pretty obvious you're applying a double standard in favor of DC. Those TV series aren't animated series. And those first 2 quotes are so iconic that most people have heard of them and know what the quotes referred to. Those first 2 quotes are as well-known as any quotes from Shakespeare. So you're creating a rule that only allows a TV series from DC but not from Marvel. Sure sounds legit. As if your rules can somehow affect how something becomes iconic or not. Look, Avengers Assemble is a very recognizable tagline. Hate it all you want but that's a fact.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 30, 2018 2:58:09 GMT
Those TV series aren't animated series. And those first 2 quotes are so iconic that most people have heard of them and know what the quotes referred to. Those first 2 quotes are as well-known as any quotes from Shakespeare. So you're creating a rule that only allows a TV series from DC but not from Marvel. Sure sounds legit. As if your rules can somehow affect how something becomes iconic or not. Look, Avengers Assemble is a very recognizable tagline. Hate it all you want but that's a fact. No, that's not the rule. The rule is live-action movies and TV series. Most people watch live-action TV series but most people don't watch animated series.
And no, Avengers Assemble isn't a recognizable tagline. Especially since it's never been said in any MCU movie and the only reference you can fid of it ever being said is in animated series, which most people don't watch. So no, Avengers Assemble isn't a recognizable tagline and isn't iconic.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 30, 2018 3:06:28 GMT
So you're creating a rule that only allows a TV series from DC but not from Marvel. Sure sounds legit. As if your rules can somehow affect how something becomes iconic or not. Look, Avengers Assemble is a very recognizable tagline. Hate it all you want but that's a fact. No, that's not the rule. The rule is live-action movies and TV series. Most people watch live-action TV series but most people don't watch animated series.
And no, Avengers Assemble isn't a recognizable tagline. Especially since it's never been said in any MCU movie and the only reference you can fid of it ever being said is in animated series, which most people don't watch. So no, Avengers Assemble isn't a recognizable tagline and isn't iconic.
You said TV series. An animated TV series is still a TV series. Show me the rule where it says only live-action TV shows are allowed?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 30, 2018 3:13:20 GMT
No, that's not the rule. The rule is live-action movies and TV series. Most people watch live-action TV series but most people don't watch animated series.
And no, Avengers Assemble isn't a recognizable tagline. Especially since it's never been said in any MCU movie and the only reference you can fid of it ever being said is in animated series, which most people don't watch. So no, Avengers Assemble isn't a recognizable tagline and isn't iconic.
You said TV series. An animated TV series is still a TV series. Show me the rule where it says only live-action TV shows are allowed? The part in the title where it says "iconic".
Once again, for something to be iconic, most people have to be familiar with it. Since most people watch live-action TV series but most people don't watch animated TV series, that basically eliminates anything that's only from animated TV series. Now if you have an example of the same quote from a movie or live-action TV series, then it might qualify. But if not, then it can't be considered iconic since most people don't watch animated TV series.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 30, 2018 3:27:53 GMT
You said TV series. An animated TV series is still a TV series. Show me the rule where it says only live-action TV shows are allowed? The part in the title where it says "iconic".
Once again, for something to be iconic, most people have to be familiar with it. Since most people watch live-action TV series but most people don't watch animated TV series, that basically eliminates anything that's only from animated TV series. Now if you have an example of the same quote from a movie or live-action TV series, then it might qualify. But if not, then it can't be considered iconic since most people don't watch animated TV series.
Ok so you basically admit to creating a rule out of thin air. Gotcha.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 30, 2018 3:29:35 GMT
The part in the title where it says "iconic".
Once again, for something to be iconic, most people have to be familiar with it. Since most people watch live-action TV series but most people don't watch animated TV series, that basically eliminates anything that's only from animated TV series. Now if you have an example of the same quote from a movie or live-action TV series, then it might qualify. But if not, then it can't be considered iconic since most people don't watch animated TV series.
Ok so you basically admit to creating a rule out of thin air. Gotcha. No, the rule has always been that the quote has to be iconic. Avengers Assemble isn't iconic since the only place where you can reference the quote is from an obscure animated TV series, which most people don't watch.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 30, 2018 3:34:36 GMT
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Post by dazz on Jan 30, 2018 3:52:51 GMT
Since the list is not confined to just movies then no it doesn't as it is regularly said in the animated series If it's only said in animated series, then it should definitely be removed from the list. Because to be iconic, most people have to be familiar with it. And most people don't watch animated series. So most people aren't familiar with that quote. So it should definitely be removed from the list. Actually dumb dumb that quote is one of the more iconic lines associated with the team, hence why it is the name used for the current TV show and why the Avengers film was in fact titled Avengers Assemble in multiple countries, which means millions upon millions of people do know and associate the line with the brand, a specific utterance of the line may in fact not be iconic but as it is a quote closely tied to the brand of one of the highest grossing films of all time, and a quote in fact used in TV shows means it bypasses any of the BS rules you established because you are in fact a moron.
Also you should stop trying to insist what most people do or do not know given you yourself know next to nothing, so you as a man often criticised for your misquoting, misremembering, blatant lying and general ignorance to say most people do not know "blank" actually lends itself as proof that people will indeed know "blank" given your propensity of being wrong or just full of shit.
Also the only way to disallow Avengers Assemble is to argue people must know the source of said line via TV or movie, but seeing how you use quotes from a now obscure and "ancient" tv show it disqualifies the Superman quotes also, basically shut up you dozy little twonk.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 30, 2018 4:06:41 GMT
If it's only said in animated series, then it should definitely be removed from the list. Because to be iconic, most people have to be familiar with it. And most people don't watch animated series. So most people aren't familiar with that quote. So it should definitely be removed from the list. the only way to disallow Avengers Assemble is to argue people must know the source of said line via TV or movie, but seeing how you use quotes from a now obscure and "ancient" tv show it disqualifies the Superman quotes also, basically shut up you dozy little twonk.
No, Avengers Assemble doesn't make the list because it isn't iconic. The only place where that quote is ever said is in an animated TV series, which most people don't watch.
The Superman lines are iconic because not only are most people familiar with those lines and know that those lines refer to Superman, but also the TV series isn't the only place where those quotes are used. Those quotes are so famous and iconic that they've been used in numerous other mainstream movies and TV series.
It's similar to many of Shakespeare's quotes. You'll find many of Shakespeare's quotes not just in Shakespeare's works but also referred to in numerous other books, movies, and TV series. Agatha Christie's The Mysterious Affair at Styles uses an exact quote from MacBeth several times.
That's why the 2 Superman quotes are the most iconic quotes in superhero movies and TV series. They so famous and iconic that they've been used in numerous other mainstream movies and TV series and most people are familiar with those quotes and know that those quotes refer to Superman. Avengers Assemble isn't iconic because it's not used anywhere except in animated TV series and most people have never heard that quote.
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Post by dazz on Jan 30, 2018 4:30:13 GMT
the only way to disallow Avengers Assemble is to argue people must know the source of said line via TV or movie, but seeing how you use quotes from a now obscure and "ancient" tv show it disqualifies the Superman quotes also, basically shut up you dozy little twonk.
No, Avengers Assemble doesn't make the list because it isn't iconic. The only place where that quote is ever said is in an animated TV series, which most people don't watch.
The Superman lines are iconic because not only are most people familiar with those lines and know that those lines refer to Superman, but also the TV series isn't the only place where those quotes are used. Those quotes are so famous and iconic that they've been used in numerous other mainstream movies and TV series.
It's similar to many of Shakespeare's quotes. You'll find many of Shakespeare's quotes not just in Shakespeare's works but also referred to in numerous other books, movies, and TV series. Agatha Christie's The Mysterious Affair at Styles uses an exact quote from MacBeth several times.
That's why the 2 Superman quotes are the most iconic quotes in superhero movies and TV series. They so famous and iconic that they've been used in numerous other mainstream movies and TV series and most people are familiar with those quotes and know that those quotes refer to Superman. Avengers Assemble isn't iconic because it's not used anywhere except in animated TV series and most people have never heard that quote.
Avengers Assemble is the Avengers signature line it's why when The Avengers came out and no one specifically uttered the words people questioned as to why, it's the official tagline of the film as well as the alternative name for it used in 2 countries equating to 70 million people and over $80m in ticket sales, so saying no one knows it is flat out bullshit you retard.
If you base it off of sales Avengers was seen by over 180m people, that means 180m people minimum saw the advertising that had that quote, less than 40m people saw Alien in theate but the tagline "in space no one can hear you scream" is one of the most remembered in history and people quote it, so the fact it wasn't uttered in the films doesn't matter, it is a quote known by millions possibly billions of people and is a quote from a TV show, so it counts you sad little shitter.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 30, 2018 4:32:39 GMT
Not only is it such a well-known line that everyone I’ve spoken to seems to know it, but we have undeniable proof that just about everyone in Britain knows it—it was the title of the movie there. Remarkable that they’d use such a “little-known” title, don’t you think?
EDIT: Oh, pfui, why am I even bothering? This is just silly.
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Post by dazz on Jan 30, 2018 4:35:29 GMT
the only way to disallow Avengers Assemble is to argue people must know the source of said line via TV or movie, but seeing how you use quotes from a now obscure and "ancient" tv show it disqualifies the Superman quotes also, basically shut up you dozy little twonk.
No, Avengers Assemble doesn't make the list because it isn't iconic. The only place where that quote is ever said is in an animated TV series, which most people don't watch.
Also the Avengersl ine doesn't fit because it's a MCU quote and you are an anti-MCU troll, it's also just your personal list based on your opinion which means it has no meaning or relevance beyond that, it's fine if you don't think it belongs but stop for the love of fucking god acting like your opinion is gospel truth, your opinions are often based off of ill informed "facts" misremembered plots and overall bias which means their about as truthful and releiable as anything coming out of a second hand car salesman mouth, you have 0 credibility so shut up stating opinion as fact and take your head out of your arse you blithering knuckle dragger.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 30, 2018 4:38:54 GMT
No, Avengers Assemble doesn't make the list because it isn't iconic. The only place where that quote is ever said is in an animated TV series, which most people don't watch.
The Superman lines are iconic because not only are most people familiar with those lines and know that those lines refer to Superman, but also the TV series isn't the only place where those quotes are used. Those quotes are so famous and iconic that they've been used in numerous other mainstream movies and TV series.
It's similar to many of Shakespeare's quotes. You'll find many of Shakespeare's quotes not just in Shakespeare's works but also referred to in numerous other books, movies, and TV series. Agatha Christie's The Mysterious Affair at Styles uses an exact quote from MacBeth several times.
That's why the 2 Superman quotes are the most iconic quotes in superhero movies and TV series. They so famous and iconic that they've been used in numerous other mainstream movies and TV series and most people are familiar with those quotes and know that those quotes refer to Superman. Avengers Assemble isn't iconic because it's not used anywhere except in animated TV series and most people have never heard that quote.
Avengers Assemble is the Avengers signature line it's why when The Avengers came out and no one specifically uttered the words people questioned as to why, it's the official tagline of the film as well as the alternative name for it used in 2 countries equating to 70 million people and over $80m in ticket sales, so saying no one knows it is flat out bullshit you retard.
If you base it off of sales Avengers was seen by over 180m people, that means 180m people minimum saw the advertising that had that quote, less than 40m people saw Alien in theate but the tagline "in space no one can hear you scream" is one of the most remembered in history and people quote it, so the fact it wasn't uttered in the films doesn't matter, it is a quote known by millions possibly billions of people and is a quote from a TV show, so it counts you sad little shitter.
1st, you can't declare how many people saw an ad based on how many people saw a movie. Many people don't watch trailers because they don't want to be spoiled.
2nd, the title of this thread is "Most iconic lines/quotes in superhero movies/TV shows". "Avengers Assemble" was never said in any movie and the only place where it was said was in an animated TV series, which most people don't watch.
3rd, like I said in my previous post, the 2 Superman quotes have been used for more than half a century in other numerous mainstream movies and TV series so most people are familiar with it, but "Avengers Assemble" isn't used anywhere outside of the comics and the animated TV series so most people have never even heard that quote before.
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Post by dazz on Jan 30, 2018 4:40:54 GMT
Not only is it such a well-known line that everyone I’ve spoken to seems to know it, but we have undeniable proof that just about everyone in Britain knows it—it was the title of the movie there. Remarkable that they’d use such a “little-known” title, don’t you think? EDIT: Oh, pfui, why am I even bothering? This is just silly. Too be fair the fact we used that title also is because we had our own show & film called "The Avengers" which is unrelated, but the fact that 70m people know the film as Avengers Assemble disproved DC fans claim know one associates that line with the film.
Yeah it is silly to argue with him if you expect to achieve anything, but it's also fun and a cathartic release yelling at DC-Fan for being a moron is like punching a heavy bag they do afterall have about the same level of intelligence, except a heavy bag is full of sand, DC-Fan is full of kaka ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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