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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jan 28, 2018 20:44:17 GMT
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Post by jamesbamesy on Jan 28, 2018 20:47:51 GMT
Didn't like it?
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Post by jakesully on Jan 28, 2018 21:25:39 GMT
hated it as well. and I'm a big Ridley Scott fan too.
The characters were even bigger idiots than the ones in Prometheus . I didn't think that was possible lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 21:31:15 GMT
Two of the most boring movies in existence.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Jan 29, 2018 0:43:01 GMT
LOL, I Liked It!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 2:20:11 GMT
After watching(and being disappointed with) Prometheus, I gave Scott a pass because it had been awhile since he made Alien and maybe he was just working out the kinks. Then he turns around and makes this film, with characters who are even stupider than those in Prometheus, which I hadn't thought possible.
Both great looking films. Both filled with stupid characters.
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Post by ck100 on Jan 29, 2018 2:52:36 GMT
The movie should have been more "Prometheus" and less "Alien" instead of a combo of both.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 2:53:40 GMT
The movie should have been more "Prometheus" and less "Alien" instead of a combo of both. Nope. We already had Prometheus. What we needed was more Alien and less zzzzzzz, |
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Post by ck100 on Jan 29, 2018 3:10:35 GMT
The movie should have been more "Prometheus" and less "Alien" instead of a combo of both. Nope. We already had Prometheus. What we needed was more Alien and less zzzzzzz, But that's the problem. Yeah, we got "Alien", but the "Alien" stuff wasn't anything new which hence leads to the "zzzzz". It's like the movie was just going through an "Alien" checklist. You want facehuggers? Check. You want chestbursters? Check. You want the xenomorph picking off people? Check. We've seen all this stuff done before and done better. Even though all these things are the ingredients of an "Alien" film, there's nothing exciting or special being done with them. How many times can you show the same stuff over and over before it becomes tiresome and formulaic? You'd figure a film like this would be Scott's opportunity to do something new or innovative here instead of just going over familiar territory. |
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Post by ravi02 on Jan 29, 2018 8:34:44 GMT
It's disappointing how these Alien prequels shape the creature's creation as a man-made mutant. For me what made the alien so frightening to begin with is that it just is. It's simply just a frightening creature that naturally evolved somewhere in the galaxy and exists just to expand its species. Likewise, what makes that Space Jockey scene so eerie in the original is that it's an ancient ship that's been fossilized for thousands of years and having our human heroes come across this giant dead alien adds to the horror. Knowing that they're actually big human bodybuilders with suits on just makes them less interesting.
Another frustrating part of these films is wasting Michael Fassbinder. I think he does a good job as both David and Walter, but he deserved better films around him. And at the end of the day, David's an anti-hero with a hate for humans, and when he's more interesting than the actual main human heroes that becomes a problem.
Covenant is better than Prometheus in that it at least has a proper story and a couple of cool moments (The massacre of the Engineers is brutal and Fassbinder's dual performance), but overall very disappointing considering it have done more.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 29, 2018 9:38:56 GMT
eh, I enjoyed it well enough, especially the David stuff. But the Engineer mythology from Prometheus was not honored and developed enough - and did we really need another off-screen kill off of a female lead, worked so well in Alien III, right? I wanted Shaw's & David's journey, not the usual monsters eat dumb-ass crew one by one.
All in favor of trope and formula rehash, which is still sound, but after 6 films and countless spoofs hardly memorable. |
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Post by ghostintheshell on Jan 29, 2018 13:12:52 GMT
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Post by ck100 on Jan 29, 2018 19:58:33 GMT
I wanted Shaw's & David's journey, not the usual monsters eat dumb-ass crew one by one.
This should have been kept in the movie. Plus, it makes for a better trailer than what we got with the actual film.
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Post by salomonj on Jan 29, 2018 20:00:42 GMT
Fantastic film. Just like 'Prometheus'.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 29, 2018 20:03:32 GMT
I wanted Shaw's & David's journey, not the usual monsters eat dumb-ass crew one by one.
This should have been kept in the movie. Plus, it makes for a better trailer than what we got with the actual film.
shame, the relationship and philosophical differences between those two, and their journey to find answers, would have been so much more interesting than the play-it-save monster routine. Pity. |
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Post by anthonyrocks on Jan 30, 2018 2:58:56 GMT
Fantastic film. Just like 'Prometheus'. Agreed! |
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Post by ghostintheshell on Jan 30, 2018 6:13:48 GMT
Fantastic film. Just like 'Prometheus'. My thoughts as well! I think Covenent did a good job at connecting the Xeno's origin story with the corrupt corporation that consistently tried to exploit them to use them as a biological weapons. With Covenent, the franchise is a lot closer to wrapping up the origin story and events leading up to the original Alien film. |
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Post by sjg on Jan 30, 2018 9:14:04 GMT
It's disappointing how these Alien prequels shape the creature's creation as a man-made mutant. For me what made the alien so frightening to begin with is that it just is. It's simply just a frightening creature that naturally evolved somewhere in the galaxy and exists just to expand its species. Likewise, what makes that Space Jockey scene so eerie in the original is that it's an ancient ship that's been fossilized for thousands of years and having our human heroes come across this giant dead alien adds to the horror. Knowing that they're actually big human bodybuilders with suits on just makes them less interesting. I completely agree with this, my biggest problem too is that the xenomorphs turn out to be man made. |
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