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Post by Salzmank on Jan 30, 2018 18:37:33 GMT
Leaving aside the quality of the overall films, I thought Ford was good in Indy 4, The Force Awakens and Blade Runner 2049. He can certainly pull off the tough older guy part, but Indy 4 was a decade ago and in TFA and Blade Runner 2, he was part of an ensemble cast. It's a different situation for Indy 5 where he's supposed to be the lead in an action adventure film. I hope they can get a good script and work in Indy's advancing years as an integral part of the story. If they do it right, they can give us one last great adventure. I think (in sharp contrast to what I used to think) that they should leave well enough alone at this point; indeed, Crystal Skull was absolutely unnecessary, as Last Crusade (“ last”!) gave us a superb indelible image on which to close the series. Nevertheless, Crystal Skull exists, and they may as well close it up with one more. So I do hope, if they’re actually doing this, for one last great adventure. I genuinely have no real problem with Ford’s age (I think he can pull it off fine, as you wrote); my problem is, as you and Rey Kahuka have noted, the time period. I just don’t think Indy quite fits here. With that said, too, I don’t want them to re-cast Indy; I think the part is very particular to him. This isn’t a Bond situation (and, even then, I don’t think there’s been a single Bond since who has come close to Connery, but that’s a separate discussion). The actor and the role have become one in the public consciousness here. |
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Post by vegalyra on Jan 30, 2018 18:44:10 GMT
Well, just another thought, the only continent that Indy hasn't gone to theatrically (outside of Antarctica) is Australia. I'm just trying to think of what the artifact might be and who the villain would be, especially if it does take place in the 1960's.
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Post by outrider127 on Jan 30, 2018 18:47:05 GMT
Harrison Ford is too old for this type of role
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Post by Salzmank on Jan 30, 2018 18:47:21 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Jan 30, 2018 22:48:23 GMT
Well, just another thought, the only continent that Indy hasn't gone to theatrically (outside of Antarctica) is Australia. I'm just trying to think of what the artifact might be and who the villain would be, especially if it does take place in the 1960's. Aside from folklore about lost mines and pirate treasure (which may work for a prologue action scene but a whole movie?) I hadn't heard much from that corner of the globe. I think that Indiana Jones can work in a 60s/70s setting actually. Hell, they could incorporate the change in tech as a theme of the movie. If I did it, I'd present it by way of something like the animated series Jonny Quest which featured several episodes focused on lost cities, missing treasure, and even had a Nazi war criminal as the villain in one episode. |
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Post by agentsparky on Jan 31, 2018 0:18:23 GMT
I have no faith in Indy 5. Not because of Ford but because of Kathleen Kennedy will find a way to ruin it.
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Post by Reynard on Jan 31, 2018 14:44:16 GMT
People were already complaining about Ford being too old for the role when Crystal Skull was released, and that was 10 years ago.
Anyway that's not the big problem for me personally. My big problem is Disney producing, which doesn't go well with Indy's special relationship with older popular culture. Let's admit it, a lot of early 1900 to 1950s or so popular culture is "racist" by today's standards, with stories about dangerous wilds of the blackest Africa and so forth. Stereotypes are a big part of that era.
There were complaints about The Temple of Doom being racist even back in mid-80s. Hollywood has gotten far more sensitive and 'liberal' since then, and Disney movies especially tend to be quite openly pushing different 'progressive' agendas these days. They are not a company that could produce a Indiana Jones movie the way the old ones were. Indy movie that does not respect older popular culture in not a proper Indiana Jones movie, but just another generic action-adventure movie. In order to make this film, Disney will have to tear out the heart of the series, so to speak. It's not going to be a pretty sight.
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Post by vegalyra on Jan 31, 2018 14:46:42 GMT
Well, just another thought, the only continent that Indy hasn't gone to theatrically (outside of Antarctica) is Australia. I'm just trying to think of what the artifact might be and who the villain would be, especially if it does take place in the 1960's. Aside from folklore about lost mines and pirate treasure (which may work for a prologue action scene but a whole movie?) I hadn't heard much from that corner of the globe. I think that Indiana Jones can work in a 60s/70s setting actually. Hell, they could incorporate the change in tech as a theme of the movie. If I did it, I'd present it by way of something like the animated series Jonny Quest which featured several episodes focused on lost cities, missing treasure, and even had a Nazi war criminal as the villain in one episode. True, I think as a prologue to the movie he could be in Australia, that would be interesting. Maybe he could be in South America such as Argentina in the 1960's looking for an artifact and run into some Nazi war criminals. He could run into some Mossad agents hunting the Nazis somehow. Maybe these Nazis discovered the Emerald Tablet that was widely believed to assist in alchemy and they are trying to turn lead into gold or something...  |
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Post by politicidal on Jan 31, 2018 14:49:44 GMT
Aside from folklore about lost mines and pirate treasure (which may work for a prologue action scene but a whole movie?) I hadn't heard much from that corner of the globe. I think that Indiana Jones can work in a 60s/70s setting actually. Hell, they could incorporate the change in tech as a theme of the movie. If I did it, I'd present it by way of something like the animated series Jonny Quest which featured several episodes focused on lost cities, missing treasure, and even had a Nazi war criminal as the villain in one episode. True, I think as a prologue to the movie he could be in Australia, that would be interesting. Maybe he could be in South America such as Argentina in the 1960's looking for an artifact and run into some Nazi war criminals. He could run into some Mossad agents hunting the Nazis somehow. Maybe these Nazis discovered the Emerald Tablet that was widely believed to assist in alchemy and they are trying to turn lead into gold or something... Not bad, except they actually did that in one of the novels (I think it was called Philosophers Stone). But with Italian Fascists in North Africa instead. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2018 15:16:31 GMT
Cast Joel Edgerton
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Post by Reynard on Jan 31, 2018 15:38:04 GMT
True, I think as a prologue to the movie he could be in Australia, that would be interesting. Maybe he could be in South America such as Argentina in the 1960's looking for an artifact and run into some Nazi war criminals. He could run into some Mossad agents hunting the Nazis somehow. Maybe these Nazis discovered the Emerald Tablet that was widely believed to assist in alchemy and they are trying to turn lead into gold or something... Not bad, except they actually did that in one of the novels (I think it was called Philosophers Stone). But with Italian Fascists in North Africa instead. The Emerald Tablet wouldn't be that interesting when everyone can download the translated text from any website about alchemy. However you could spin a great story about Indiana Jones meeting Fulcanelli the phantom alchemist. Especially since according to legend he became immortal and US Army Intelligence tried to track him down during and after WWII, but Fulcanneli escaped them simply by walking through a concrete wall of a US army base, never to be found again... |
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Post by politicidal on Jan 31, 2018 15:40:02 GMT
Not bad, except they actually did that in one of the novels (I think it was called Philosophers Stone). But with Italian Fascists in North Africa instead. The Emerald Tablet wouldn't be that interesting when everyone can download the translated text from any website about alchemy. However you could spin a great story about Indiana Jones meeting Fulcanelli the phantom alchemist. Especially since according to legend he became immortal and US Army Intelligence tried to track him down during and after WWII, but Fulcanneli escaped them simply by walking through a concrete wall of a US army base, never to be found again... Now that doesn't sound bad but it may prove too, for lack of a better word, esoteric for general audiences expecting a big glowing shiny thing. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 31, 2018 18:53:29 GMT
They waited too long to do this imo. The only way I see this working is having a father/son duo like in the Last Crusade. Either that or they recast Ford as Indy which will be a very difficult task. ^^^These^^^ But no LeBouf. I don't hate him, I just don't like him for this.
I'd like Chris Pratt for either a younger Indy or as Indy's son grown older than when LeBouf played him. People need to get over the idea that only Harrison Ford will ever play this characters. It's like James Bond- you recast and move on. What's the big deal?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 31, 2018 18:58:28 GMT
Indiana Jones and the Invention of Viagra Indiana Jones and the Temple of Osteoporosis |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 31, 2018 19:54:18 GMT
Set it back in the 1930's where Indy belongs and cast someone new. Just do a James Bond on the character and have someone else play him.
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Post by sublime92 on Feb 20, 2018 0:18:36 GMT
What a waste of time.
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Post by Marv on Feb 20, 2018 1:06:16 GMT
I’ve shown more interest responding to this thread than I intend to show toward seeing that movie.
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Post by vegalyra on Feb 20, 2018 16:29:47 GMT
I really wish they'd reboot the Young Indiana Jones series.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Feb 20, 2018 17:23:59 GMT
When it comes to the Main Villain in this New "INDIANA JONES" Movie, Here are My own Top 5 Male and Female Choices!
MEN
1. Christoph Waltz
2. Liam Neeson
3. Gary Oldman
4. Michael Fassbender
5. Anthony Hopkins
WOMEN
1. Angelina Jolie
2. Marion Cotillard
3. Eva Green
4. Charlize Theron
5. Kate Beckinsale
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Post by anthonyrocks on Feb 20, 2018 17:24:59 GMT
What Year would the 5th Movie even take place in ?
I remember that the last movie took place in 1957.
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