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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 2:22:47 GMT
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Jan 30, 2018 2:51:30 GMT
He waited until a month after the Pats-Steelers game so as to not arouse suspicion.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 30, 2018 3:05:59 GMT
It would be nice to see a catch rule period. 10-20 years ago, was there this much of a kerfuffle? I don’t remember it being this bad.
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Post by wonderburstanger on Jan 30, 2018 4:53:37 GMT
Ball can bounce only once off the ground and still be a catch.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 30, 2018 4:57:51 GMT
Goodell wants the catch rule changed to say: "Any TD catches against the Patriots must be ruled an incomplete pass".
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Post by hehatesshe on Jan 30, 2018 5:58:06 GMT
It would be nice to see a catch rule period. 10-20 years ago, was there this much of a kerfuffle? I don’t remember it being this bad. They didn't replay. It was all decided in real time.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 30, 2018 12:15:13 GMT
He waited until a month after the Pats-Steelers game so as to not arouse suspicion. Maybe they can retroactively apply any new rule change so the Jesse James “catch” becomes a TD.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 30, 2018 12:46:48 GMT
So much for your theory of the league wanting to help the Patriots.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 14:26:39 GMT
So much for your theory of the league wanting to help the Patriots. Not really. Penalties is more of an issue than catch rulings. The latter has impacted plenty of non-Patriots games.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 30, 2018 14:32:18 GMT
So much for your theory of the league wanting to help the Patriots. Not really. Penalties is more of an issue than catch rulings. The latter has impacted plenty of non-Patriots games. Both have impacted games across the league. It only gets noticed more when it's the Patriots.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 30, 2018 16:08:42 GMT
They've been convoluting this, and other rules progressively more so ever year, it seems. I think they're going to try to 'fix' this and only make it more incomprehensibly stupid. That will be my assumption until they prove otherwise.
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Post by No_Socks_Here on Jan 30, 2018 16:17:33 GMT
They also need to make pass interference re-viewable. No single penalty can influence the outcome of a game more than a bad PI call.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 30, 2018 16:50:48 GMT
They also need to make pass interference re-viewable. No single penalty can influence the outcome of a game more than a bad PI call. Or just make it the college rule of 15 yards instead of making it a spot foul and a potential 80 yard penalty.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 30, 2018 17:00:15 GMT
I don't see why all penalties shouldn't be reviewable anyway. If it's not gonna be conclusively visually evident you'll hardly ever get one overturned, and you'd be risking one of your maximum of 3 challenges.
While they're at it, you should keep getting challenges as long as you're getting them right.
Also, I don't like automatic 1st down on any penalties really, much less on a 5 yard defensive holding penalty.
And 'half the distance to the goal' makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
But they'll actually look at the catch rule, so lets stick to that.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 30, 2018 18:24:23 GMT
I don't see why all penalties shouldn't be reviewable anyway. If it's not gonna be conclusively visually evident you'll hardly ever get one overturned, and you'd be risking one of your maximum of 3 challenges. While they're at it, you should keep getting challenges as long as you're getting them right. Also, I don't like automatic 1st down on any penalties really, much less on a 5 yard defensive holding penalty. And 'half the distance to the goal' makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. But they'll actually look at the catch rule, so lets stick to that. If I'm not mistaken, penalties can be challenged in the CFL. Fairly certain I seen it of a couple pass interference calls. Not sure if it just for PI or if you can challenge a hold or an offside. Of course, another 15 minutes of watching a referee gawking at a monitor isn't really appealing, is it?
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Post by knowlto on Jan 30, 2018 21:08:41 GMT
I don't see why all penalties shouldn't be reviewable anyway. If it's not gonna be conclusively visually evident you'll hardly ever get one overturned, and you'd be risking one of your maximum of 3 challenges. While they're at it, you should keep getting challenges as long as you're getting them right. Also, I don't like automatic 1st down on any penalties really, much less on a 5 yard defensive holding penalty. And 'half the distance to the goal' makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. But they'll actually look at the catch rule, so lets stick to that. If I'm not mistaken, penalties can be challenged in the CFL. Fairly certain I seen it of a couple pass interference calls. Not sure if it just for PI or if you can challenge a hold or an offside. Of course, another 15 minutes of watching a referee gawking at a monitor isn't really appealing, is it?I used to think it was worth it for the refs to get their rulings right, but it doesn't seem to matter if they review video of the play or not, they still blow the calls!
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 30, 2018 21:47:39 GMT
If I'm not mistaken, penalties can be challenged in the CFL. Fairly certain I seen it of a couple pass interference calls. Not sure if it just for PI or if you can challenge a hold or an offside. Of course, another 15 minutes of watching a referee gawking at a monitor isn't really appealing, is it?I used to think it was worth it for the refs to get their rulings right, but it doesn't seem to matter if they review video of the play or not, they still blow the calls! I was the same way. Whatever it takes to get it right. And I'm still in favor of replay for some things. Did the receiver get both feet down, did the ball break the plane etc. But the officials now throw the rule book out and depend on replay to be the ultimate arbiter. Catch rule was simple. Did he have both feet down, was he juggling the ball, did he make a "football move" and the ground cannot cause a fumble. Now you can juggle, the ground can cause a fumble if relay shows it to be so. And whatever happened to "overwhelming evidence" to overturn a call?
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