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Post by sdm3 on Jan 30, 2018 11:06:15 GMT
Any particular years where the wrong actor won?
I can't believe neither Godfather actor (Pacino, Caan, Duvall) won for The Godfather, losing to Joel Grey in Cabaret (he'd already played the role on stage). They must've cancelled each other out. I definitely would've awarded Pacino.
There have also been so many "career" Oscars where the Academy chooses to award actors based on lifetime achievements rather than the merits of a particular performance, meaning more deserving nominees miss out.
What are the most egregious snubs for you?
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Post by charzhino on Jan 30, 2018 11:21:29 GMT
Russel crowe should have 100% won best actor for A Beautiful Mind but I think he punched a reporter or something which led him out of favour. But that shouldn't discount his actual performance merit.
I've not seen such a greatly acted role since.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 30, 2018 11:34:43 GMT
I normally don't count nominations but not winning as snubs, but no way Pacino should have beat Washington.
Uma Thurman for Kill Bill
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Post by ck100 on Jan 30, 2018 12:14:33 GMT
I doubt Paul Newman was the best actor for the year he won for The Color of Money.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Jan 30, 2018 14:48:02 GMT
I doubt Paul Newman was the best actor for the year he won for The Color of Money. He was pretty damn good in that, but to be honest it was probably a more of a lifetime achievement award. He actually should have won a few years earlier for The Verdict, so the Academy was probably making it up to him for that oversight. For me personally, Robert Shaw not even being nominated as Best Supporting in Jaws is a travesty. |
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Post by movielover on Jan 30, 2018 15:10:57 GMT
I doubt Paul Newman was the best actor for the year he won for The Color of Money. He was pretty damn good in that, but to be honest it was probably a more of a lifetime achievement award. He actually should have won a few years earlier for The Verdict, so the Academy was probably making it up to him for that oversight. For me personally, Robert Shaw not even being nominated as Best Supporting in Jaws is a travesty. ^Exactly. All of this is what I've always thought too. |
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Post by ck100 on Jan 30, 2018 15:12:43 GMT
I think many of us would agree that Scorsese's Oscar win was really a "lifetime achievement" win.
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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 30, 2018 15:34:42 GMT
I normally don't count nominations but not winning as snubs, but no way Pacino should have beat Washington. Uma Thurman for Kill Bill Uma Thurman for Kill Bill
I love Uma Thurman in Kill Bill and, especially, Kill Bill 2. I definitely think an Oscar nod for either one would have been deserved.
My favorite performance that never got nominated was Elizabeth Taylor in "X, Y and Zee". She was never a very good actress, but somehow she was able to stun in that movie. Though I am sure nobody has even heard of that movie.
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Post by dirtypillows on Jan 30, 2018 15:52:07 GMT
Any particular years where the wrong actor won? I can't believe neither Godfather actor (Pacino, Caan, Duvall) won for The Godfather, losing to Joel Grey in Cabaret (he'd already played the role on stage). They must've cancelled each other out. I definitely would've awarded Pacino. There have also been so many "career" Oscars where the Academy chooses to award actors based on lifetime achievements rather than the merits of a particular performance, meaning more deserving nominees miss out. What are the most egregious snubs for you?
Well, since Sissy Spacek in "Carrie" is my all-time favorite performance and since she lost to Faye Dunaway in "Network", I guess this is my pick.
Faye Dunaway in "Mommie Dearest" could have won over that old gray mare, Kate Hepburn.
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Post by sostie on Jan 30, 2018 17:47:56 GMT
Ian McKellan or Edward Norton instead of Roberto Benigni
Any of the other nominees instead of Pacino in Scent Of A Woman
Bob Hoskins in Mona Lisa instead of Paul Newman in Color Of Money
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Post by Captain Spencer on Jan 30, 2018 17:54:42 GMT
The 1978 drama Blue Collar was snubbed big time at the Oscars. Didn't get a single nomination. It should have been been nominated for Best Picture and should have got acting nominations (especially for Richard Pryor).
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 30, 2018 22:16:14 GMT
I normally don't count nominations but not winning as snubs, but no way Pacino should have beat Washington. Uma Thurman for Kill Bill I agree with Pacino's win only because he should have won already and Denzel Washington already was an Oscar winner at the time. Pacino's win makes a lot of sense. |
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 30, 2018 22:21:39 GMT
He was pretty damn good in that, but to be honest it was probably a more of a lifetime achievement award. He actually should have won a few years earlier for The Verdict, so the Academy was probably making it up to him for that oversight. For me personally, Robert Shaw not even being nominated as Best Supporting in Jaws is a travesty. ^Exactly. All of this is what I've always thought too.There is no doubt in my mind that Paul Newman won for The Color of Money because they felt he deserved to be an Oscar winner at the time. Just like Pacino for Scent of a Woman. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 30, 2018 22:41:22 GMT
Humphrey Bogart not being nominated for The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
John Wayne not being nominated for The Searchers
James Cagney not being nominated for White Heat
Gary Cooper for Sergeant York over Orson Welles for Citizen Kane
Robert Donat for Goodbye Mr. Chips over Clark Gable for Gone With the Wind
Paul Newman should have won in 1964 for Hud. He was unlucky to put in some of his best performances in years that other actor did great things. Could have won in 1961 for The Hustler but Max Schell did Judgment at Nuremberg. Could have won in '67 For Cool Hand Luke but that was the same year of Rod Steiger in In the Heat of the Night and Warren Beatty in Bonnie and Clyde. But he deserved the Oscar. No one else nominated was a real standout.
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Post by movielover on Jan 30, 2018 22:43:33 GMT
^Exactly. All of this is what I've always thought too.There is no doubt in my mind that Paul Newman won for The Color of Money because they felt he deserved to be an Oscar winner at the time. Just like Pacino for Scent of a Woman. Don't misunderstand me, I thought Newman deserved an Oscar for The Color of Money. He was great, and it's a great movie. I just agree with spike that he should've won an Oscar for The Verdict and that this mistake by the Academy probably played a factor in Newman getting it a few years later. I agree Pacino deserved his Oscar for Scent of a Woman, but it's wrong that this was his only Oscar win. Just my opinion. |
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Post by Geddy on Jan 30, 2018 22:47:02 GMT
Any particular years where the wrong actor won? I can't believe neither Godfather actor (Pacino, Caan, Duvall) won for The Godfather, losing to Joel Grey in Cabaret (he'd already played the role on stage). They must've cancelled each other out. I definitely would've awarded Pacino. There have also been so many "career" Oscars where the Academy chooses to award actors based on lifetime achievements rather than the merits of a particular performance, meaning more deserving nominees miss out. What are the most egregious snubs for you? Tommy Lee Jones should have won for In the Valley of Elah instead of Daniel Day Lewis who hammed it up for There Will be Blood. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 30, 2018 22:50:44 GMT
I normally don't count nominations but not winning as snubs, but no way Pacino should have beat Washington. Uma Thurman for Kill Bill I agree with Pacino's win only because he should have won already and Denzel Washington already was an Oscar winner at the time. Pacino's win makes a lot of sense. It makes political sense, but that's what lifetime achievement awards are for. |
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Post by marianne48 on Jan 31, 2018 0:52:09 GMT
THE definitive supporting actor in THE definitive supporting role: Claude Rains as Captain Renault in Casablanca. Rains virtually never gave a bad performance, and he was every star's dependable supporting player. Unfortunately, he didn't win for this, nor for any other movie. In this case, he lost out to Charles Coburn, playing his usual comical curmudgeonly codger yet again. J. Carrol Naish, another prolific supporting player (but usually a bit hammier) also gave a better performance than Coburn as the Italian soldier in Sahara. But the award should have gone to Rains.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 31, 2018 0:56:29 GMT
There is no doubt in my mind that Paul Newman won for The Color of Money because they felt he deserved to be an Oscar winner at the time. Just like Pacino for Scent of a Woman. Don't misunderstand me, I thought Newman deserved an Oscar for The Color of Money. He was great, and it's a great movie. I just agree with spike that he should've won an Oscar for The Verdict and that this mistake by the Academy probably played a factor in Newman getting it a few years later. I agree Pacino deserved his Oscar for Scent of a Woman, but it's wrong that this was his only Oscar win. Just my opinion. While I agree both Pacino and Newman deserved their nominations, they didn't deserve to win those years. My favorite lead male performances those years are Gary Oldman for Sid & Nancy (followed closely by James Woods) and Denzel Washington for Malcolm X, which is one of the greatest performances of all time imo. |
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Post by jervistetch on Jan 31, 2018 1:15:26 GMT
Both Edward G. Robinson and Myrna Loy NEVER being nominated.
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