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Xena
Feb 8, 2017 2:52:03 GMT
Post by finalfantasy on Feb 8, 2017 2:52:03 GMT
I love this series! It has surprisingly good acting, and I think it's a show that still holds up today I think.
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Post by femalefan on Feb 8, 2017 4:23:51 GMT
I like it too as well as Hercules: The Legendary Journeys.
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Xena
Feb 13, 2017 2:32:36 GMT
Post by Dontrocktheboat on Feb 13, 2017 2:32:36 GMT
I don't remember much about it. I use to catch episodes when I was younger. Wasn't Xena about a warrior who traveled with a sidekick defeating warlords?
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Xena
Feb 14, 2017 0:13:42 GMT
Post by femalefan on Feb 14, 2017 0:13:42 GMT
I don't remember much about it. I use to catch episodes when I was younger. Wasn't Dena about a warrior who traveled with a sidekick defeating warlords? *Xena and yes. It was actually a spin off from Hercules.
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Xena
Feb 15, 2017 18:27:37 GMT
Post by Dontrocktheboat on Feb 15, 2017 18:27:37 GMT
Another show I haven't seen in years. I know what I'll be asking for Christmas next year.
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Xena
Feb 17, 2017 0:28:10 GMT
Post by femalefan on Feb 17, 2017 0:28:10 GMT
There is one thing I've been wondering about. What happened to the gods that Xena was seen killing in Motherhood? I know Ares and Aphrodite survived, lost their godhoods before getting it back , however I mean the ones like Demeter, Apollo, or Cupid.
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Post by Commander_Jim on Feb 18, 2017 14:21:21 GMT
It's just like game of thrones only less incest which could be a good thing sometimes
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Xena
Feb 21, 2017 20:41:19 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 20:41:19 GMT
I think season 1-4 is very good. But when it gets to season 5 and 6 it becomes very hard to watch. I would say that the show after the 25 year time jump ( i think it was 25 years. I am to lazy to look it up ) The show became bloody awful.
Also i find it a bit stupid how they have Xena take part in pretty much every historical and mythical event of the ancient world. I mean yes i know its a tv show but to have her take part in pretty much every event that are hundred and thousands of years apart is a bit much even for a tv show.
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Xena
Feb 21, 2017 21:50:36 GMT
Post by femalefan on Feb 21, 2017 21:50:36 GMT
I think season 1-4 is very good. But when it gets to season 5 and 6 it becomes very hard to watch. I would say that the show after the 25 year time jump ( i think it was 25 years. I am to lazy to look it up ) The show became bloody awful. Also i find it a bit stupid how they have Xena take part in pretty much every historical and mythical event of the ancient world. I mean yes i know its a tv show but to have her take part in pretty much every event that are hundred and thousands of years apart is a bit much even for a tv show. No, it was 25 years.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Feb 22, 2017 8:14:30 GMT
Before Buffy, my favourite TV heroine was Xena. Lucy Lawless's great facial expressions and delivery of her lines really wowed me.
Callisto still remains my most favourite TV villainess ever, and that's thanks in large part to Hudson Leick's portrayal of the character and delivery of her lines.
I will forever call Xena's chakram "round killing thing" thanks to Diana (one of Xena's dopplegangers).
I know I'm in the minority, but I...didn't hate Livia (or Eve, for that matter). Sure, she wasn't Callisto (she was, at best, 'Callisto Lite')...but then no one could ever equal Hudson Leick's character.
I still remember hearing the news of Kevin Smith's tragic accident. That was the first time I can recall hearing of an actor from a show that I watched having passed away. He was great as Ares (even though his sideburns were questionable at times).
I still remember every word to 'The Bitter Suite' version of that 'Joxer the Mighty' song.
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Xena
Feb 22, 2017 21:55:27 GMT
Post by finalfantasy on Feb 22, 2017 21:55:27 GMT
Before Buffy, my favourite TV heroine was Xena. Lucy Lawless's great facial expressions and delivery of her lines really wowed me. Callisto still remains my most favourite TV villainess ever, and that's thanks in large part to Hudson Leick's portrayal of the character and delivery of her lines. I will forever call Xena's chakram "round killing thing" thanks to Meg (one of Xena's dopplegangers). I know I'm in the minority, but I...didn't hate Livia (or Eve, for that matter). Sure, she wasn't Callisto (she was, at best, 'Callisto Lite')...but then no one could ever equal Hudson Leick's character. I still remember hearing the news of Kevin Smith's tragic accident. That was the first time I can recall hearing of an actor from a show that I watched having passed away. He was great as Ares (even though his sideburns were questionable at times). I still remember every word to 'The Bitter Suite' version of that 'Joxer the Mighty' song. Yeah Callisto was definitely a great character, Hudson didn't need to be big or tall to be intimitading. I also thought Kathryn Morris did a great job as Najara, and of course Claire Stansfield was fantastic as Alti. This show really did do really well in terms of writing women characters.
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Feb 22, 2017 22:17:32 GMT
Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Feb 22, 2017 22:17:32 GMT
Of all the characters who, to me, it felt like the writers were trying to make into 'the next Callisto', I think Kathryn Morris as Najara was the only one I liked. The fact that she didn't start off seeming so bad, but then there was that 'turn' partway through her first episode and her true self was revealed made for something a bit different.
I also liked how delightfully insane she got at the end of her second episode, with smearing the blood on her face and the fight with Xena in the vines was fun (even if they were clearly ropes painted green). I did like that they left the door open for her return, as she only appeared 'mostly dead' and not 'all dead' (there was the slightest twitch from her in the final parting shot). It's too bad that she never did.
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Post by finalfantasy on Feb 24, 2017 0:48:14 GMT
Of all the characters who, to me, it felt like the writers were trying to make into 'the next Callisto', I think Kathryn Morris as Najara was the only one I liked. The fact that she didn't start off seeming so bad, but then there was that 'turn' partway through her first episode and her true self was revealed made for something a bit different. I also liked how delightfully insane she got at the end of her second episode, with smearing the blood on her face and the fight with Xena in the vines was fun (even if they were clearly ropes painted green). I did like that they left the door open for her return, as she only appeared 'mostly dead' and not 'all dead' (there was the slightest twitch from her in the final parting shot). It's too bad that she never did. I actually didn't like that they made her into super crazy in her second apprearance. Part of her appeal (to me at least) is that it's hard to tell what side's she's really on, and that she had legitimate arguments against what Xena was doing. I feel like they threw it away by just making her crazy evil.
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Xena
Feb 24, 2017 1:57:47 GMT
Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Feb 24, 2017 1:57:47 GMT
I agree that Najara made some legitimate arguments against what Xena was doing in her first appearance, she seemed more 'complex' there. I even thought that they were making her have some 'character growth' in the beginning of her second appearance. I see what you're saying about how they seemingly 'threw it away by just making her crazy evil'. However, I thought that the idea of a character who seemed calm, cool and collected on the surface, only to lose it over something so minor (like Najara did near the end of her second episode in regards to what Gabrielle had said) was kind of true to certain people in real life. I've known some like that, who fly off the handles at the tiniest things. I thought that made Najara kind of 'scary' in a way, that her outbursts were unexpected/came out of nowhere. I also thought the idea of Najara being obsessed with Gabrielle and trying to win her over made for something a bit different. While Callisto was all about hurting Xena's friends (and horse!) to cause her pain, Najara wanted to convert (and possibly more) Xena's closest friend and just wanted Xena out of the way. I always took the Xena/Callisto relationship as being a bit like Batman/The Joker in that Callisto wouldn't know what to do if she didn't have Xena around to torture. On second thought, maybe this? So I do agree with what you said. At the same time, by the end of Najara's second episode I was just resigned to the fact that the writers had decided to make her 'crazy evil' and figured that if she were to return again, she'd no longer try 'playing nice'.
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Xena
Feb 25, 2017 0:25:08 GMT
Post by finalfantasy on Feb 25, 2017 0:25:08 GMT
I agree that Najara made some legitimate arguments against what Xena was doing in her first appearance, she seemed more 'complex' there. I even thought that they were making her have some 'character growth' in the beginning of her second appearance. I see what you're saying about how they seemingly 'threw it away by just making her crazy evil'. However, I thought that the idea of a character who seemed calm, cool and collected on the surface, only to lose it over something so minor (like Najara did near the end of her second episode in regards to what Gabrielle had said) was kind of true to certain people in real life. I've known some like that, who fly off the handles at the tiniest things. I thought that made Najara kind of 'scary' in a way, that her outbursts were unexpected/came out of nowhere. I also thought the idea of Najara being obsessed with Gabrielle and trying to win her over made for something a bit different. While Callisto was all about hurting Xena's friends (and horse!) to cause her pain, Najara wanted to convert (and possibly more) Xena's closest friend and just wanted Xena out of the way. I always took the Xena/Callisto relationship as being a bit like Batman/The Joker in that Callisto wouldn't know what to do if she didn't have Xena around to torture. On second thought, maybe this? So I do agree with what you said. At the same time, by the end of Najara's second episode I was just resigned to the fact that the writers had decided to make her 'crazy evil' and figured that if she were to return again, she'd no longer try 'playing nice'. Yeah, I just thought they could have done more withher if they had continued the her storylinewith her beingthere as a way to make Xena question herself, at least for a little while. But you're right about Callisto being Xena's joker and not knowing what to do once she "got" her. (P.s. where is that gif from? It's hilarious)
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Xena
Feb 28, 2017 6:37:38 GMT
Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Feb 28, 2017 6:37:38 GMT
Xena: Warrior Princess always seemed like an odd mix of things to me (in the best possible way, of course!). Like, sometimes there'd be really dark stuff going on/some surprisingly violent moments, and then there'd be the complete opposite, with ridiculous stuff going on and very "campy" moments.
Likewise, I found character development would vary depending on characters, performances, episodes and the writers of episodes. Xena was complex, there's no doubt about it. And there'd be some depth given to characters who might not have seemed to have so much from the outset - like Aphrodite, for example, who simply seemed like 'Goddess of Love surfer chick', but who I felt was given some depth here and there on both X:WP and H: TLJ. Sometimes when she'd have her 'serious' moments, I thought they were quite well done. Gabrielle went through a lot of character growth, and I think Kevin Smith did some of his best work when he showed Ares' 'vulnerable side'.
Which brings me to Callisto. Yes, she was Xena's 'arch nemesis' and seemed to blame everything that she did/everything she became on Xena, which I'm sure some brushed off as being 'one dimensional' or whatever, but I think the way Hudson Leick played Callisto had so many hidden depths. I'll always remember the pit stop they made in 'A Necessary Evil', where Xena was forced to confess her crimes against Callisto's village (in return for Callisto helping her defeat Velasca), and the look on Hudson's/Callisto's face said so much (I even liked how Xena's attitude towards Callisto did no change after the confession, and Gabrielle looked completely freaked out by Callisto's display of emotion).
Anyway, my overall point was that, for a show that could be oh so very silly at times, on other occasions it showed quite a lot of 'depth', and I'll forever be surprised that among all the 'silliness', such a great villainess as Callisto was allowed to let loose and be as delightfully 'evil' as she was (when other more 'serious' shows don't have villains even half as good as her).
As for the GIF, it's from an episode of Hercules: The Legendary Journeys (Season 4, episode 15, 'Yes, Virginia, There Is a Hercules' - I take it you were wondering what episode of which show it was from and not where I found it on the net? I just typed 'Callisto Ares scissors paper rock' into Google images - though I loved what I saw someone else somewhere call it: 'sword, parchment, boulder'). The clip can also be found on YouTube - though the GIF leaves out the best part, where Callisto wins and laughs, Ares storms off in a huff and yells "Dumb blonde!", to which Callisto replies with an offended "Hey!". I felt the episode itself was hit and miss, but that part always cracked me up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 14:59:22 GMT
I love Xena. I'd say I like Hercules a little more, but both shows are awesome.
Honestly, I've enjoyed pretty much every Raimi/Tapert TV show I've watched: Hercules, Xena, Jack of all Trades, Cleopatra 2525, Legend of the Seeker, Spartacus, and now, Ash VS. Evil Dead.
I picked up copies of American Gothic and M.A.N.T.I.S. since I never watched those. I still haven't had a chance to watch them yet....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 15:01:35 GMT
I felt the episode itself was hit and miss, but that part always cracked me up. Yes, Virginia, There Is a Hercules is probably the most awesome 'clip show' episode in TV history....
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Post by Raimo47 on Mar 9, 2017 1:34:27 GMT
Xena is my second favorite show. I'm probably in the minority, but my favorite season is season 6 and my favorite character is Livia/Eve.
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Mar 9, 2017 1:55:28 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 1:55:28 GMT
Xena is my second favorite show. I'm probably in the minority, but my favorite season is season 6 and my favorite character is Livia/Eve. What is your favorite show?
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