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Post by deembastille on Feb 2, 2018 10:59:25 GMT
Atheists are more prone to keep quiet and mind their own business. which is why i mentioned how i have yet to have met one face to face. i probably know a lot of atheists but don't know they ARE athiests since they keep quiet about it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 11:30:34 GMT
Some of them can be annoying in different and also similar ways and can be judgmental and generalize opposing sides without really knowing anything about each other. I think the issue is that people put stereotypes on religious people and atheists alike that really have nothing to do with them or what they believe or don't believe.
I talked to a guy that believed atheists think that there is no purpose in life and have a negative outlook on life and I told him right away that was actually just a stereotype about atheists and not even close to being true.. Atheism is just simply lacking belief in God or gods. Not believing that there is a purpose in life is completely separate and has nothing to do with atheism. People who believe there is no purpose in life are just negative people in general regardless of what they call themselves.
There are also many stereotypes about religious people and Christians especially. The most annoying stereotype put on religious people is that they're judgmental when in reality it's judgmental to call someone judgmental based on a false stereotype when you actually know nothing about them. Nothing annoys me more than the hypocrisy in that too.
Another thing that bothers be about some atheists is that they claim to know for a fact God isn't real and have evidence when science neither prove or disproves God's existence. You can benefit from your own perspective of the universe that can make sense to you personally, but to claim you know more than religious people about the origins of the universe is pretty ignorant.
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 2, 2018 13:08:12 GMT
Atheists are more prone to keep quiet and mind their own business. This is hilarious. Well-done!
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 2, 2018 13:29:42 GMT
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Feb 2, 2018 13:46:23 GMT
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 2, 2018 15:49:24 GMT
Do you think you are somehow disproving my point?
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Post by HumanFundRecipient on Feb 2, 2018 17:13:33 GMT
Both are very annoying. But I'm going to have to go with religious people. They are generally far more evil and dangerous. Atheists may be fools but they are harmless for the most part.Thoughts? Ahem, Richard Kuklinski and Saddam Hussein say hello. I think North Korea is mostly a nonreligious nation and I'm fairly confident if I looked harder I could find even more terrible atheists. Most atheists I know of aren't contract killers or dictators. I find whoever came up with the "have a blessed day" greeting somewhat annoying.
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 2, 2018 19:25:11 GMT
Ahem, Richard Kuklinski and Saddam Hussein say hello. I think North Korea is mostly a nonreligious nation and I'm fairly confident if I looked harder I could find even more terrible atheists. Most atheists I know of aren't contract killers or dictators. I find whoever came up with the "have a blessed day" greeting somewhat annoying. Neither are most religious people.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Feb 2, 2018 22:05:15 GMT
Do you think you are somehow disproving my point? Gee, what could give me that idea? Could it be the part where he poured money into religious programs? Could it be the religious quotes, including one in his final letter before death when he had no reason to lie? Could it be that your sources - a blanket statement that he "hated Shiites but was totes secular" and a freaking Wikipedia page - don't require much disproving? And aren't you that guy who refused to believe Get Out was about liberal racism no matter how many times I quoted Jordan Peele? Yeah, I can already tell this is gonna be as pointless as an actual religious debate.
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Post by HumanFundRecipient on Feb 2, 2018 23:25:29 GMT
Most atheists I know of aren't contract killers or dictators. I find whoever came up with the "have a blessed day" greeting somewhat annoying. Neither are most religious people. I'm sure you've heard of megachurches with the "wealth of prosperity" preachers. The preachers of those churches are overwhelmingly more annoying than your average atheist.
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Post by theauxphou on Feb 3, 2018 4:14:17 GMT
Religious people are more annoying for preaching about their pretend friend.
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Post by someguy on Feb 3, 2018 5:42:58 GMT
It's not about what you believe, or don't believe. It's about how you express it. I've known both atheists and religious people who came off as arrogant and disrespectful. I'm tempted to say I've had more bad experience with religious people, but that is because I've known more of them to start with.
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Post by mslo79 on Feb 5, 2018 23:10:33 GMT
I would say it's clearly the opposite of that as look at those evil dictators of the world like Hitler/Stalin etc. definitely not of the religious type as it's not possible to do what they do without being very evil and FAR away from God.
also, some people who kill others in the name of religion are brainwashed by evil people basically into thinking they are doing good when they are really doing the work of the devil. like those in ISIS etc.
hell, I would say just from a logical standpoint... it would be easier for someone who does not believe in God to commit more serious crimes because from their point of view if they can get away with it then there is no penalty for them where as for someone who does believe in God knows you cannot do bad things and get away with it because even if you get away with it in this life you can't cheat God and will pay for it in the next.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 0:42:49 GMT
I would say it's clearly the opposite of that as look at those evil dictators of the world like Hitler/Stalin etc. definitely not of the religious type as it's not possible to do what they do without being very evil and FAR away from God. also, some people who kill others in the name of religion are brainwashed by evil people basically into thinking they are doing good when they are really doing the work of the devil. like those in ISIS etc. hell, I would say just from a logical standpoint... it would be easier for someone who does not believe in God to commit more serious crimes because from their point of view if they can get away with it then there is no penalty for them where as for someone who does believe in God knows you cannot do bad things and get away with it because even if you get away with it in this life you can't cheat God and will pay for it in the next. I get what you're saying but I feel like the incentive not to commit serious crimes just because they know God will punish them can be concerning in some ways because no one should be committing crimes anyway whether there would be a God or not. God shouldn't be their incentive not to commit crimes because what if they eventually stopped believing in God? If they felt God was what was stopping them to do the things they wanted then it seems more likely that they would start doing these things once they stopped believing. People who think that they can't do anything wrong because of God is what seems more dangerous because they're not able to think for themselves. But naturally people do want to think for themselves eventually at one point in their lives so it just seems like there's going to be some sort of rebellion against that way of thinking already waiting to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 1:04:07 GMT
It's not about what you believe, or don't believe. It's about how you express it. I've known both atheists and religious people who came off as arrogant and disrespectful. I'm tempted to say I've had more bad experience with religious people, but that is because I've known more of them to start with. Ive known more religious people that were better just because more of them could actually explain why they believe what they do and the knowledge they had about their religion. But Ive been only been exposed to Catholicism and I will say most that I know are very intelligent and don't come across as brainwashed as Protestants are, but thats also because I use to go to a Catholic University and the people I talked to had theology majors or were just very spiritual people and had an answer to almost anything when it came to explaining their faith. Catholics just seem to use more logic in explaining why they think the way they do yet protestants only use the Bible as their source, but that is just from my experience. I feel most of the atheists I know just have a wrong perception of Christianity because of a few bad examples of Christians they'e known in their personal lives, but those people don't represent the religion. There aren't many atheists besides the ones on online message boards that actually know anything about Christianity or Catholicism specifically, since they only seem to attack Christianity out of any other religion. If you are an atheist and can explain why without demonizing religions such as Christianity specifically than I can take you seriously. Atheism for the most part just seems to represent the people who were once Christian or were exposed to it but then eventually rebelled against it. The definition is technically "lack of belief in God or gods" but it obviously goes much deeper than that for most atheists I've seen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 6:05:04 GMT
If you mean which are worse then yes the overly religious are far worse than say the hardcore atheist, doesn't make them more annoying though, on an annoyance level their about the same, the each carry the same level of pretentiousness, smugness, arrogance and so forth. That being said I would rather deal with a hardcore atheist because atleast disagreeing with them doesn't seem to drive them to commit heinous crimes in the name of their beliefs or non-beliefs as the case may be, doesn't make them less annoying though. Yeah. I have to agree with you on this Dazz. I have nothing against religious people and have friends who are religious but I find overly religious people who try to force their views on everybody especially homophobic and racist ones to be very annoying and some of them are the definition of nutjobs.
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 6, 2018 14:57:08 GMT
Do you think you are somehow disproving my point? Gee, what could give me that idea? Could it be the part where he poured money into religious programs? Could it be the religious quotes, including one in his final letter before death when he had no reason to lie? Could it be that your sources - a blanket statement that he "hated Shiites but was totes secular" and a freaking Wikipedia page - don't require much disproving? And aren't you that guy who refused to believe Get Out was about liberal racism no matter how many times I quoted Jordan Peele? Yeah, I can already tell this is gonna be as pointless as an actual religious debate. I literally gave you two links stating that he was not religious -and could easily find more because it's a well-known fact he was a secular leader – but hey my sources don't count and yours do because they are your sources. Fuck outta here with that nonsense.
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 6, 2018 14:59:33 GMT
Neither are most religious people. I'm sure you've heard of megachurches with the "wealth of prosperity" preachers. The preachers of those churches are overwhelmingly more annoying than your average atheist. Were not talking about annoying, were talking about dictators and contract killers. There is where your words, don't change your argument now.
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Post by HumanFundRecipient on Feb 6, 2018 18:04:04 GMT
I'm clearly on the "religious people are more annoying" side. And that can include the people with the blessed day greeting, the megachurch preachers, the aspiring American theocrats, and people who randomly choose hitmen and dictators who happened to be nonreligious to express their opinion.
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Post by Roberto on Feb 10, 2018 12:06:03 GMT
Both are very annoying. But I'm going to have to go with religious people. They are generally far more evil and dangerous. Atheists may be fools but they are harmless for the most part. Thoughts? Both are OK. But when they try to push their beliefs on other people that is when they become annoying. I do not believe in the bible but I would never try to convince that to a religious person. And I would not want a religious person to try to make me a believer. Yes, religious people pushing their beliefs is bad but even if they don't, how is that okay? You think it's totally acceptable for someone to believe members of their family, "friends", neighbors and coworkers will all rot in hell because they don't believe in the same thing they do? Someone with an incredibly hateful and evil belief like that doesn't need to push their belief to be a piece of shit. They're a piece of shit regardless.
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