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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 10, 2018 7:14:54 GMT
And women don't posses these traits too? I find women tend to pass the buck onto men and blame them for their own insecurities. The double standard is perpetuated by many females who go into denial and think that men owe them something for some reason. What, heaven knows!  Both genders do this though, we think the other side is nuttier than a squirrels turd but in truth we are just as bad as the other just in different ways, a lot of women are exactly as you say but a lot of men are also exactly as Monicah describes, and it's not limited to genders either every nationality, race, religion and so own have their own baggage and those within those designations run the gambit from full on worst case example to the complete inversion of it. 
The dynamic between men and women can be one big massive conundrum. Century after century of carnal embracement, and we are still no closer to understanding one another. So grateful I bat for the same team.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 11:21:08 GMT
Hey Deb, 
Isn't MGTOW, just like Feminist groups who go a little too extreme and are misguided? If we are allowed feminism, why not masculism? One could say the feminists only attack men for a lack of their own dating life and they can't get a man to bed them.
Sorry for taking a while to get back to you. Yes. There are extremes on both ends and there are some feminists who are like MGTOW and despise men but the difference is MGTOW go out of their way to launch unprovoked attacks on us on sites like Yahoo Answers, forums and comment sections just for writing on them and they have got comment sections closed down for attacking us and writing sexist garbage everywhere ‘cause the owners of those sites had enough of them. MGTOW don’t just attack us online – they attack other men too who are in relationships with us or stand up against them and I have a few male friends who have had fights with them online and my Uncle has seen them and he thinks they are dickheads.
They despise us even more than they despise hetero women especially when they’re attracted to us ‘cause apparently we “steal their women” from them and we should be sleeping with them and they blame us for their lack of a dating life most of all. Some of them don’t believe we are lesbians ‘cause the only reason our gender exists is to “screw men over” and be gold diggers and we date each other to make them jealous and rub it in their faces that they can’t have us.  A lot of them are delusional to say the least and are in desperate need of mental help but some of the grossly uninformed ones are quite hilarious with their claims we ‘get’ each other pregnant just to bring babies into the world and make them lesbians too to screw them over more. That one cracked me up the most the first time I saw it ‘cause I didn’t realise we could ‘get’ each other pregnant but it shows the lack of intelligence of these people. 
I find some of PUA guys can be even worse than MGTOW guys and I read a really dumb article a few years ago by a PUA guy who claimed lesbians are ultimately the biggest threat to men ‘cause we are ruining their social hierarchy and in their so called social hierarchy it is the alpha males that are supposed to get all the women while betas get what they call leftovers and omegas get nobody but with the increase of lesbianism and bisexual women in America which feminism encourages to screw them over we can get more women and sex than alpha males by ‘turning’ other women into lesbians too and they can’t have sex with us so we are wiping them out. He went on to encourage other men to break up lesbians in relationships, stop lesbians from hitting on their women, force lesbians into having sex with them by any means necessary and put lesbians in their places and show them alpha males are in charge.
This is not the first I have seen of PUA guys encouraging violence on us and there are PUA guys who have been banned from touring here ‘cause they encourage men to be emotionally and physically abusive but that one took things to a new extreme and was extremely disturbed. Guys like that deserve to be locked up and shouldn't be allowed to mingle with society. 
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 11:38:55 GMT
Never heard of MGTOW, but I only encountered these types of guys through online and never in person.. thank god lmfao. I immediately thought of that returnofkings website where loser misogynists talk about their false views on women.. I sometimes go on there to laugh at it because I find it so hilarious..I still can't figure out if this is all trolling or they actually believe this stuff. www.returnofkings.com/149710/30-signs-that-a-woman-has-slept-with-over-100-menLike here is a blog about how to tell from 30 signs if a girl slept over 100 guys and is a slut.. Not all of them but some of them are so generic and stupid that its pretty much saying almost every girl is a slut even if she does something that has nothing to do with sex.. Apparently having over 500 followers on social media makes you a slut. 😂 They should probably actually know the meaning of the word first before using it around like that And who cares if she's a slut? They claim they don't need women in their lives but dedicate themselves to a whole website where they obsess over them. It's really pathetic and sad on so many levels.  |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 11, 2018 14:51:11 GMT
Hey Deb,
Isn't MGTOW, just like Feminist groups who go a little too extreme and are misguided? If we are allowed feminism, why not masculism? One could say the feminists only attack men for a lack of their own dating life and they can't get a man to bed them.
Sorry for taking a while to get back to you. Yes. There are extremes on both ends and there are some feminists who are like MGTOW and despise men but the difference is MGTOW go out of their way to launch unprovoked attacks on us on sites like Yahoo Answers, forums and comment sections just for writing on them and they have got comment sections closed down for attacking us and writing sexist garbage everywhere ‘cause the owners of those sites had enough of them. MGTOW don’t just attack us online – they attack other men too who are in relationships with us or stand up against them and I have a few male friends who have had fights with them online and my Uncle has seen them and he thinks they are dickheads.
They despise us even more than they despise hetero women especially when they’re attracted to us ‘cause apparently we “steal their women” from them and we should be sleeping with them and they blame us for their lack of a dating life most of all. Some of them don’t believe we are lesbians ‘cause the only reason our gender exists is to “screw men over” and be gold diggers and we date each other to make them jealous and rub it in their faces that they can’t have us. A lot of them are delusional to say the least and are in desperate need of mental help but some of the grossly uninformed ones are quite hilarious with their claims we ‘get’ each other pregnant just to bring babies into the world and make them lesbians too to screw them over more. That one cracked me up the most the first time I saw it ‘cause I didn’t realise we could ‘get’ each other pregnant but it shows the lack of intelligence of these people.
I find some of PUA guys can be even worse than MGTOW guys and I read a really dumb article a few years ago by a PUA guy who claimed lesbians are ultimately the biggest threat to men ‘cause we are ruining their social hierarchy and in their so called social hierarchy it is the alpha males that are supposed to get all the women while betas get what they call leftovers and omegas get nobody but with the increase of lesbianism and bisexual women in America which feminism encourages to screw them over we can get more women and sex than alpha males by ‘turning’ other women into lesbians too and they can’t have sex with us so we are wiping them out. He went on to encourage other men to break up lesbians in relationships, stop lesbians from hitting on their women, force lesbians into having sex with them by any means necessary and put lesbians in their places and show them alpha males are in charge.
This is not the first I have seen of PUA guys encouraging violence on us and there are PUA guys who have been banned from touring here ‘cause they encourage men to be emotionally and physically abusive but that one took things to a new extreme and was extremely disturbed. Guys like that deserve to be locked up and shouldn't be allowed to mingle with society. PUA!!! Is that Pick Up Artist. What you have explained, is just about a bunch of crackpots. They really can't be taken seriously, but if they are sabotaging feminist groups, the ladies will just need to put their heads together and show these guys who are smarter. We don't really need extremists on either side, but common sense, and personally, I don't think we need either group of Feminists or MGTOW. It's like saying, I am this, so I am better than you, just like patriotism. This only divides and does not help the equilibrium. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 12, 2018 11:22:36 GMT
And women don't posses these traits too? I find women tend to pass the buck onto men and blame them for their own insecurities. The double standard is perpetuated by many females who go into denial and think that men owe them something for some reason. What, heaven knows! Example? I honestly don't think I fit into this category of blaming men for my insecurities I typically don't blame men at all and even own up to my faults, but that still doesn't mean I'm not allowed to call them out on their faults either. I missed this response Monicah.
I just see many women as seeing themselves as being a necessity for men, for what they provide for them, sex, mothering, turning them round in the right direction, taming them. Perhaps in some cases regarding men, this is a truism for what the female does for her male, but I think many women who get with men like this—and I would say my mother is like this to a certain degree—can also get bitter and resentful, because the man in their lives haven't really lived up to the standard of what they perhaps expected or felt they deserved as women. The choice made, then becomes the fault of the male, for not living up to that expectations. They end up with a loser and a tub of lard. They may think men are going to round and complete them and vice versa for men with women
We all have our faults, both men and women and like they say, familiarity can also breed contempt. Are any faults we call others out on though regardless of gender, just a projection of our own?
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Post by dazz on Feb 12, 2018 23:25:20 GMT
Never heard of MGTOW, but I only encountered these types of guys through online and never in person.. thank god lmfao. I immediately thought of that returnofkings website where loser misogynists talk about their false views on women.. I sometimes go on there to laugh at it because I find it so hilarious..I still can't figure out if this is all trolling or they actually believe this stuff. www.returnofkings.com/149710/30-signs-that-a-woman-has-slept-with-over-100-menLike here is a blog about how to tell from 30 signs if a girl slept over 100 guys and is a slut.. Not all of them but some of them are so generic and stupid that its pretty much saying almost every girl is a slut even if she does something that has nothing to do with sex.. Apparently having over 500 followers on social media makes you a slut. 😂 They should probably actually know the meaning of the word first before using it around like that And who cares if she's a slut? They claim they don't need women in their lives but dedicate themselves to a whole website where they obsess over them. It's really pathetic and sad on so many levels. Well in defence of Jason Stackhouse he was an idiot who didn't know better, I mean a dog "fucks" a pink teddy bear that's funny/cute/embarrassing depending on the situation, your uncle frank does it and no matter the situation Frank has a problem, Jason Stackhouse is the dog in this scenario in case you were unsure 
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Post by BlunteD on Feb 12, 2018 23:43:48 GMT
Don't I know it, mate. Lol.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 4:44:22 GMT
Never heard of MGTOW, but I only encountered these types of guys through online and never in person.. thank god lmfao. I immediately thought of that returnofkings website where loser misogynists talk about their false views on women.. I sometimes go on there to laugh at it because I find it so hilarious..I still can't figure out if this is all trolling or they actually believe this stuff. www.returnofkings.com/149710/30-signs-that-a-woman-has-slept-with-over-100-menLike here is a blog about how to tell from 30 signs if a girl slept over 100 guys and is a slut.. Not all of them but some of them are so generic and stupid that its pretty much saying almost every girl is a slut even if she does something that has nothing to do with sex.. Apparently having over 500 followers on social media makes you a slut. 😂 They should probably actually know the meaning of the word first before using it around like that And who cares if she's a slut? They claim they don't need women in their lives but dedicate themselves to a whole website where they obsess over them. It's really pathetic and sad on so many levels. It's scary to think those types exist.. like they could easily murder a woman and not care.. I wonder what it takes to spot out these types of males because I would not want to associate myself with them. And their reasoning for the most part that women are labeled as sluts for sleeping with men is because it is easier for a woman to get laid than for a man to get laid. They think the guy has to put in more effort to get laid to make the girl interested. I actually don't agree with that a lot of the times since women who are labeled as sluts would typically give it out easily anyway without the guy even trying to impress her. Perhaps they're angry that they wasted their time, but then no one is forcing them to go out of their way to impress these women either. If you're complaining about all the "effort" into getting with a woman, than simply go after the easy ones, or A.K.A. "sluts" as they ironically like to hate on. Typically women are into a guy without the guy even trying. It's just natural physical attraction. Men like that are just simply men who hate women and don't respect them, and women should never be manipulated into thinking what these types of men say about them or to them. I'm the type of person that doesn't like being told what to believe. I'm very opinionated so fortunately these types of mind games guys try fail miserably on me. And the "You'll never end up with a guy" (as if I'm dependent on men) statement doesn't work with me either. I don't see anything wrong with being single as long as I'm happy and independent. I don't need a guy for that and typically these are the types of men that would take your happiness and independence away from you if you end up settling for them. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 4:56:47 GMT
Example? I honestly don't think I fit into this category of blaming men for my insecurities I typically don't blame men at all and even own up to my faults, but that still doesn't mean I'm not allowed to call them out on their faults either. I missed this response Monicah.
I just see many women as seeing themselves as being a necessity for men, for what they provide for them, sex, mothering, turning them round in the right direction, taming them. Perhaps in some cases regarding men, this is a truism for what the female does for her male, but I think many women who get with men like this—and I would say my mother is like this to a certain degree—can also get bitter and resentful, because the man in their lives haven't really lived up to the standard of what they perhaps expected or felt they deserved as women. The choice made, then becomes the fault of the male, for not living up to that expectations. They end up with a loser and a tub of lard. They may think men are going to round and complete them and vice versa for men with women
We all have our faults, both men and women and like they say, familiarity can also breed contempt. Are any faults we call others out on though regardless of gender, just a projection of our own?
Generally speaking regardless of gender, people shouldn't expect something from another person when getting into a relationship with them when it's not verbally stated. I think these types of things need to be addressed before making a long term commitment. I think the mentality "I did this for you so you should do this for me" is wrong because then it's not about unconditional love in that relationship but more about what you can get from that person. When women do this it just makes it more obvious that they were using these men to get what they want and become upset when they don't get it, but a lot of that happens because of non-communication. Besides sex I don't think women should help men in those areas, men should be able to help themselves. If they're not then they will never change and are not relationship material. |
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A lot of them are extremely bitter teenage boys but there are a number of them that are psychotic little assholes like that Elliot Rodger boy who was on the Gender Studies section of Yahoo Answers that should be locked behind bars. 
