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Post by dirtypillows on Feb 3, 2018 22:26:12 GMT
So, I guess Matt Damon said some stuff last December about "MeToo", and I read what he had to say, and overall I felt what he had to say was reasonable and thought out and showed some feeling for everybody involved. Yes, it felt like he was sticking up for the guys who had not done anything wrong, because this does need to be said once in a while. And then these tacky, needy females ridiculed him and then told him to shut up. Because these women and others like them are not really interested in any reasonable discussion about fairness. If you're not 10105 for them and everything is completely is on their own terms, Matt Damon, who has been around in the business for some time and he would know what was going on, and who has always seemed like a decent guy (never been a fan of his at all, but my estimation of Mr. Damon rose considerably today) and maybe took offense when it really did feel like women were going after and vilifying all men, just on principle. So, here's a guy who said something that was both fair and optimistic (if it is deemed "brave" when the female victims come forward and tell their story (and are applauded for doing it, with no end in sight) then surely it must also be equally brave for a man for the perpetrator (in this case, a male) to come forward and publicly admit what he did. (forgot the fellow Mr. Damon cited as having done just this... Louis C.K.) Yes, this is a very brave thing to do, folks, especially when you know that there are going to be people who will always condemn and spew hatred his way for the rest of his life. It was a terribly brave thing for him to do. I am sure there are a lot of people Natalie Portman and Bree Diesel have offended and felt no contrition afterwards. They seem not to know how very good they have. They are ingrates and they do not know how to convey the power that their lucky careers have given to them.
Minnie Driver said that guys like Matt Damon are actually contributing to the problem. And Evan Rachel Wood told Matt Damon to shut up.
Okay, so then what happens at the Golden Globe Awards last month? The poor, guileless fellows, all dressed in sympathetic black, kept their mouths shut and let the gals run the show. Even when the actresses were making sexist comment throughout the evening, bitter and vindictive, the guys, took last month's advice, and stood back and kept their mouths shut. Okay.
The very next day, there were outcries from every corner regarding the conspicuous silence on the part of the men, and how what that boiled down was more of the same, lack of support, misogyny, blah blah.
These women are sending out all sorts of mixed signals. And they're really not being very nice about it. And nice guys who also have some self-respect are not always going to stay quiet. Fair is fair. But I wouldn't any guy for completely abandoning the company of women, if this is what they have to deal with.
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Post by northern on Feb 3, 2018 22:36:20 GMT
So, I guess Matt Damon said some stuff last December about "MeToo", and I read what he had to say, and overall I felt what he had to say was reasonable and thought out and showed some feeling for everybody involved. Yes, it felt like he was sticking up for the guys who had not done anything wrong, because this does need to be said once in a while. And then these tacky, needy females ridiculed him and then told him to shut up. Because these women and others like them are not really interested in any reasonable discussion about fairness. If you're not 10105 for them and everything is completely is on their own terms, Matt Damon, who has been around in the business for some time and he would know what was going on, and who has always seemed like a decent guy (never been a fan of his at all, but my estimation of Mr. Damon rose considerably today) and maybe took offense when it really did feel like women were going after and vilifying all men, just on principle. So, here's a guy who said something that was both fair and optimistic (if it is deemed "brave" when the female victims come forward and tell their story (and are applauded for doing it, with no end in sight) then surely it must also be equally brave for a man for the perpetrator (in this case, a male) to come forward and publicly admit what he did. (forgot the fellow Mr. Damon cited as having done just this... Louis C.K.) Yes, this is a very brave thing to do, folks, especially when you know that there are going to be people who will always condemn and spew hatred his way for the rest of his life. It was a terribly brave thing for him to do. I am sure there are a lot of people Natalie Portman and Bree Diesel have offended and felt no contrition afterwards. They seem not to know how very good they have. They are ingrates and they do not know how to convey the power that their lucky careers have given to them. Minnie Driver said that guys like Matt Damon are actually contributing to the problem. And Evan Rachel Wood told Matt Damon to shut up. Okay, so then what happens at the Golden Globe Awards last month? The poor, guileless fellows, all dressed in sympathetic black, kept their mouths shut and let the gals run the show. Even when the actresses were making sexist comment throughout the evening, bitter and vindictive, the guys, took last month's advice, and stood back and kept their mouths shut. Okay. The very next day, there were outcries from every corner regarding the conspicuous silence on the part of the men, and how what that boiled down was more of the same, lack of support, misogyny, blah blah. These women are sending out all sorts of mixed signals. And they're really not being very nice about it. And nice guys who also have some self-respect are not always going to stay quiet. Fair is fair. But I wouldn't any guy for completely abandoning the company of women, if this is what they have to deal with. True this as any actor or public figure in general that speaks out against the MeToo movement right now is going to be crucified so they know its best to say nothing at all. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 4, 2018 1:43:23 GMT
So, I guess Matt Damon said some stuff last December about "MeToo", and I read what he had to say, and overall I felt what he had to say was reasonable and thought out and showed some feeling for everybody involved. Yes, it felt like he was sticking up for the guys who had not done anything wrong, because this does need to be said once in a while. And then these tacky, needy females ridiculed him and then told him to shut up. Because these women and others like them are not really interested in any reasonable discussion about fairness. If you're not 10105 for them and everything is completely is on their own terms, Matt Damon, who has been around in the business for some time and he would know what was going on, and who has always seemed like a decent guy (never been a fan of his at all, but my estimation of Mr. Damon rose considerably today) and maybe took offense when it really did feel like women were going after and vilifying all men, just on principle. So, here's a guy who said something that was both fair and optimistic (if it is deemed "brave" when the female victims come forward and tell their story (and are applauded for doing it, with no end in sight) then surely it must also be equally brave for a man for the perpetrator (in this case, a male) to come forward and publicly admit what he did. (forgot the fellow Mr. Damon cited as having done just this... Louis C.K.) Yes, this is a very brave thing to do, folks, especially when you know that there are going to be people who will always condemn and spew hatred his way for the rest of his life. It was a terribly brave thing for him to do. I am sure there are a lot of people Natalie Portman and Bree Diesel have offended and felt no contrition afterwards. They seem not to know how very good they have. They are ingrates and they do not know how to convey the power that their lucky careers have given to them. Minnie Driver said that guys like Matt Damon are actually contributing to the problem. And Evan Rachel Wood told Matt Damon to shut up. Okay, so then what happens at the Golden Globe Awards last month? The poor, guileless fellows, all dressed in sympathetic black, kept their mouths shut and let the gals run the show. Even when the actresses were making sexist comment throughout the evening, bitter and vindictive, the guys, took last month's advice, and stood back and kept their mouths shut. Okay. The very next day, there were outcries from every corner regarding the conspicuous silence on the part of the men, and how what that boiled down was more of the same, lack of support, misogyny, blah blah. These women are sending out all sorts of mixed signals. And they're really not being very nice about it. And nice guys who also have some self-respect are not always going to stay quiet. Fair is fair. But I wouldn't any guy for completely abandoning the company of women, if this is what they have to deal with. Well put! This has become one massive big smear campaign against males and how dare they disrespect females for sexually objectifying them. I guess this is just another free pass the ladies want, when it comes to what they want out of men, but men just have to suck it up and do their bidding. Do they want them to be neutered sex slaves? A man just has to touch her boobie and she can cry rape and sexual assault and has to be believed.
Regarding males speaking out, it has become a damned if you do and a damned if you don't scenario. Spoiled, narcissistic females are starting to think WAY TOO much of themselves. Out comes the chauvinistic, misogyny card and females are becoming their own worst enemies now, and males are becoming their own worst enemies, by allowing females to disempower them. Perhaps it's time for the males to get in touch with their own homosuperiorness and leave the ladies alone.  They will flounder and scramble for any bit of attention they can get from men and will have to live in primitive caves, just like Wonder Woman and her ilk, if men aren't around to build up society and an infrastructure for them.
And yes, if a male can openly admit to his sexual behavior, that is a brave thing to do as well. Only that, the knives are still going to get sharpened, because he wasn't allowed to be a male in the first place.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Feb 4, 2018 2:06:11 GMT
I really like Damon as an actor.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2018 2:51:16 GMT
I really like Damon as an actor. He tries a little too hard for my liking. Instead of him disappearing into the character, I always get a little bit of a sense that it's Matt Damon pretending really, really, REALLY hard to be somebody else. |
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Feb 4, 2018 3:36:52 GMT
I really like Damon as an actor. He tries a little too hard for my liking. Instead of him disappearing into the character, I always get a little bit of a sense that it's Matt Damon pretending really, really, REALLY hard to be somebody else. What can I say. |
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