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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 16:29:06 GMT
Also, as proof of the herd-like mentality of your ilk (  ), you're not the only one who has said it and I wasn't referring specifically to you. It's the go-to crutch of the atheist argument. There is an atheist argument? why wasn't I told? I subscribe to the non-existent atheist bulletin! Apparently there is. Per cupcakes, atheism seems pretty organized in its philosophies. But I was referring here to the played-out strategy of guilt-tripping, so I was not actually referring to a philosophic argument. I was referring to a tactic. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 16:29:58 GMT
tpfkar Oh, you mean everybody agrees on the golden rule? The one found in the scriptures?  The one written by humans into "scripture" of course. Tinted-glass readings leave you with all kinds of silly.
When a woman has a discharge, if her discharge in her body is blood, she shall continue in her menstrual impurity for seven days; and whoever touches her shall be unclean until evening. Everything also on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean, and everything on which she sits shall be unclean.So to be clear, you believe parts of the Bible? |
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 9, 2018 16:35:25 GMT
tpfkar The one written by humans into "scripture" of course. Tinted-glass readings leave you with all kinds of silly.
When a woman has a discharge, if her discharge in her body is blood, she shall continue in her menstrual impurity for seven days; and whoever touches her shall be unclean until evening. Everything also on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean, and everything on which she sits shall be unclean.So to be clear, you believe parts of the Bible? The Bible is not an inverse-truth oracle, if that's what you mean. It's got gobs of whatever was of the day combined with whatever eccentricities/angles the writers/combiners had.
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 9, 2018 16:40:08 GMT
tpfkar There is an atheist argument? why wasn't I told? I subscribe to the non-existent atheist bulletin! Apparently there is. Per cupcakes, atheism seems pretty organized in its philosophies. You be tripping per normal.  Specifically, "atheists" just don't believe in gods, although the term is often used colloquially for those who don't believe in a supernatural or think that "supernatural" as a concept is semantics/incoherent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 17:06:54 GMT
tpfkar So to be clear, you believe parts of the Bible? The Bible is not an inverse-truth oracle, if that's what you mean. It's got gobs of whatever was of the day combined with whatever eccentricities/angles the writers/combiners had.
And I will kill her children with pestilence and all the churches will know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts; and I will give to each one of you according to your deeds.You don't have to be all scholarly about it. Do you believe certain moral teachings in the Bible are good moral teachings? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 17:09:14 GMT
The discussion wasn't about what deities you believed in or didn't believe in. The discussion was the codification of the atheist's morals. You said they were pretty universal and less arbitrary than me choosing one book as a blanket for my moral philosophy. Am I misrepresenting what you said? |
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 9, 2018 17:11:54 GMT
tpfkar The Bible is not an inverse-truth oracle, if that's what you mean. It's got gobs of whatever was of the day combined with whatever eccentricities/angles the writers/combiners had.
And I will kill her children with pestilence and all the churches will know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts; and I will give to each one of you according to your deeds.You don't have to be all scholarly about it. Do you believe certain moral teachings in the Bible are good moral teachings? Certain "moral teachings" in isolation certainly pass muster. As a whole it and specifically it's core message is grossly immoral.
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 9, 2018 17:24:06 GMT
tpfkar The discussion wasn't about what deities you believed in or didn't believe in. The discussion was the codification of the atheist's morals. You said they were pretty universal and less arbitrary than me choosing one book as a blanket for my moral philosophy. Am I misrepresenting what you said? Of course. You guys were on "atheistic ethics" and how it's all just opinion and how you didn't pick your ethics. And my response was with "atheists who follow human empathy, rationality, and society", not with the odd LotR believing nutcase.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 17:26:18 GMT
tpfkar You don't have to be all scholarly about it. Do you believe certain moral teachings in the Bible are good moral teachings? Certain "moral teachings" in isolation certainly pass muster. As a whole it and specifically it's core message is grossly immoral.
No one whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off shall be admitted to the assembly of the LORD.Ha, you're a convert waiting to happen. |
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Post by phludowin on Feb 9, 2018 17:33:41 GMT
tpfkar The one written by humans into "scripture" of course. Tinted-glass readings leave you with all kinds of silly.
When a woman has a discharge, if her discharge in her body is blood, she shall continue in her menstrual impurity for seven days; and whoever touches her shall be unclean until evening. Everything also on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean, and everything on which she sits shall be unclean.So to be clear, you believe parts of the Bible? The Golden Rule existed before the Bible did. And yes, I believe that Tiberius was a real person, or that the Dead Sea, the river Jordan and the Sea Genezaret exist. So technically, parts of the Bible are true. London is a real city. The station King's Cross exists, and the Prime Minister of the UK resides in Downing Street. All these facts can be found in the Harry Potter books. Do you believe parts of Harry Potter? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 17:46:07 GMT
So to be clear, you believe parts of the Bible? The Golden Rule existed before the Bible did. I'm interested in this. Please cite evidence. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 9, 2018 17:48:39 GMT
Is this thread still about rules based abortion discussion without the rules listed?
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 9, 2018 18:12:20 GMT
tpfkar Certain "moral teachings" in isolation certainly pass muster. As a whole it and specifically it's core message is grossly immoral.
No one whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off shall be admitted to the assembly of the LORD.Ha, you're a convert waiting to happen.  Fantasies are a way of life with some peeps.
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 9, 2018 18:35:03 GMT
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Post by Vegas on Feb 9, 2018 18:44:50 GMT
Is this thread still about rules based abortion discussion without the rules listed? That topic was aborted days ago.... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 19:34:54 GMT
tpfkar Certain "moral teachings" in isolation certainly pass muster. As a whole it and specifically it's core message is grossly immoral.
No one whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off shall be admitted to the assembly of the LORD.Ha, you're a convert waiting to happen. He was clearly burned by the church at some point. No one gets this butthurt over Christians/Christianity unless they had a truly traumatic experience as a kid. I do feel for the guy though. Whatever happened, I'm sure it sucked. |
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 9, 2018 19:48:56 GMT
tpfkar Ha, you're a convert waiting to happen. He was clearly burned by the church at some point. No one gets this butthurt over Christians/Christianity unless they had a truly traumatic experience as a kid. I do feel for the guy though. Whatever happened, I'm sure it sucked. Lordamercy you guys are free with the fantasy.  Do you really believe this shyte or does it just flow out in your commiseration klatches?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 19:53:49 GMT
tpfkar He was clearly burned by the church at some point. No one gets this butthurt over Christians/Christianity unless they had a truly traumatic experience as a kid. I do feel for the guy though. Whatever happened, I'm sure it sucked. Lordamercy you guys are free with the fantasy. Do you really believe this shyte or does it just flow out in your commiseration klatches?
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 9, 2018 20:58:27 GMT
tpfkar Lordamercy you guys are free with the fantasy. Do you really believe this shyte or does it just flow out in your commiseration klatches?
Touch the prophets You are truly blessed with both with a firm grounding in reality and great skills in Internet rejoinder.
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Post by goz on Feb 9, 2018 22:10:07 GMT
The Golden Rule existed before the Bible did. I'm interested in this. Please cite evidence. I thought it was common knowledge! I have never really thought about it enough to give chapter and verse or links, I have merely assumed that it was an evolutionary construct by humans in developing societies so that tribalism didn't wipe everyone out? |
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), you're not the only one who has said it and I wasn't referring specifically to you. It's the go-to crutch of the atheist argument.
