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Post by gadreel on Feb 14, 2018 23:28:16 GMT
This guy's views represent just one of the reasons why I detest Islam and think any civilised society should do its upmost to prevent it from spreading in the west. Listen to the piece of shit in the video, leftists, then tell us again how Islamic diversity and cultural enrichment are beneficial things and anybody who opposes it is an "Islamophobic" bigot. This is the kind of attitude we're inviting to these shores. I can't believe the Admins don't do anything about posts like this. Whatever happened to them actually enforcing a code of conduct? It seems like the admins are pretty hands off here, unless someone is reported, hence my issue with Erjen and Maya.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2018 23:30:35 GMT
I can't believe the Admins don't do anything about posts like this. Whatever happened to them actually enforcing a code of conduct? It seems like the admins are pretty hands off here, unless someone is reported, hence my issue with Erjen and Maya. Yeah, but when erjen and maya complain, the admins react quickly. I wonder what it took to get Ada deleted?
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Post by gadreel on Feb 14, 2018 23:31:51 GMT
It seems like the admins are pretty hands off here, unless someone is reported, hence my issue with Erjen and Maya. Yeah, but when erjen and maya complain, the admins react quickly. I wonder what it took to get Ada deleted? That is what I mean, they do not pay any attention until a report is made. I think there was a different admin when Ada was removed.
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 14, 2018 23:33:26 GMT
No. He doesn't. Listen to what he says from 3:30 into the video for confirmation. And sorry to burst your bubble, brother, but you are in fact a heretic thus not a Christian. You harbour some very peculiar views in complete violation to accepted orthodox doctrine. It's almost as if you've made up your own diluted liberal imaginary self-serving form of Christianity which appeals to your own ideals. I am only a heretic according to your interpretation of Christianity, sorry, but there is no other way around that. And yes he modifies it by saying that he does not want it right now. If I want a million dollars tomorrow I still want a million dollars. Spin it any way you want to avoid the truth, but you think a good representation of Christianity is to want homosexuals to be put to death. He clearly explains that he wants homosexuals and adulterers to repent before it's too late and they have to face judgement and subsequent wrath of God. And you can deny it all you like my friend but you fit the definition of a heretic to a T. I've seen you deny the trinity and pathway to salvation being through Christ alone. You've even questioned whether any of the words attributed to Jesus in the gospels are really his. I can list more but you get the gist. You are not a Christian gadreel.
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Post by gadreel on Feb 14, 2018 23:38:49 GMT
I am only a heretic according to your interpretation of Christianity, sorry, but there is no other way around that. And yes he modifies it by saying that he does not want it right now. If I want a million dollars tomorrow I still want a million dollars. Spin it any way you want to avoid the truth, but you think a good representation of Christianity is to want homosexuals to be put to death. He clearly explains that he wants homosexuals and adulterers to repent before it's too late and they have to face judgement and subsequent wrath of God. And you can deny it all you like my friend but you fit the definition of a heretic to a T. I've seen you deny the trinity and pathway to salvation being through Christ alone. You've even questioned whether any of the words attributed to Jesus in the gospels are really his. I can list more but you get the gist. You are not a Christian gadreel. He also clearly calls for their deaths. I am a Christian. You will have to live with that fact I am afraid.
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 14, 2018 23:39:25 GMT
This guy's views represent just one of the reasons why I detest Islam and think any civilised society should do its upmost to prevent it from spreading in the west. Listen to the piece of shit in the video, leftists, then tell us again how Islamic diversity and cultural enrichment are beneficial things and anybody who opposes it is an "Islamophobic" bigot. This is the kind of attitude we're inviting to these shores. I can't believe the Admins don't do anything about posts like this. Whatever happened to them actually enforcing a code of conduct? From the guy who posts stuff like this about the Virgin Mary: "... become a member of the #Me Too campaign if she were alive today? After all, she was raped by an angel." "One of my favorites is: - Jesus loves me but he hates your guts. - i was told Jesus was watching over me while I sleep. I filed a restraining order." Classic deranged liberal. Mock the bible for fun but demonize anybody who dares to speak negatively about Islam.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2018 23:42:37 GMT
I can't believe the Admins don't do anything about posts like this. Whatever happened to them actually enforcing a code of conduct? From the guy who posts stuff like this about the Virgin Mary: "... become a member of the #Me Too campaign if she were alive today? After all, she was raped by an angel." Classic deranged liberal. Mock the bible for fun but demonize anybody who dares to speak negatively about Islam. Dude, I actually read the terms of service on this board. It mentions that hate posts aren't allowed but says nothing about making jokes. You are a tool.
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 15, 2018 19:59:50 GMT
tpfkar ahh, this one: What do you think about this as a representation of Christianity? His mention of Leviticus is made redundant by the fact that Christians are not under the old covenant. Romans 1 is warning of God's wrath against all sinners, not just homosexuals. He also clarifies that he doesn't advocate the death penalty for homosexuals to be implemented today. So to sum up his sermon message seems to be a call for homosexuals and sinners in general to repent before it's too late. Nothing wrong with that teaching. I agree with him and commend him for that. "Today". Murderous Weaselanity is always entertaining to hear. Science proven wrong yet AGAIN.
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Post by goz on Feb 18, 2018 6:23:52 GMT
I am only a heretic according to your interpretation of Christianity, sorry, but there is no other way around that. And yes he modifies it by saying that he does not want it right now. If I want a million dollars tomorrow I still want a million dollars. Spin it any way you want to avoid the truth, but you think a good representation of Christianity is to want homosexuals to be put to death. He clearly explains that he wants homosexuals and adulterers to repent before it's too late and they have to face judgement and subsequent wrath of God. And you can deny it all you like my friend but you fit the definition of a heretic to a T. I've seen you deny the trinity and pathway to salvation being through Christ alone. You've even questioned whether any of the words attributed to Jesus in the gospels are really his. I can list more but you get the gist. You are not a Christian gadreel. Does it never occur to you, that it is decidedly un-Christian to judge someone who declares that they are a Christian, who accepts Jesus as their Saviour and much of that other stuff? JUST because they don't adopt YOUR own particular version of Christianity, which frankly is fundamentalist, nonsensical and bigoted towards some of your fellow men who happen to be born homosexual? and many other types of fellow humans... How can you justify denying a fellow Christian the sanctity of his faith? According to you, God alone is to judge. Who are you to do so? except from being a jumped up hypocritical biased self righteous little turd on the internet?
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 18, 2018 16:18:15 GMT
gozDoes it still not occur to you, that you haven't a Scooby-Doo about what my religion entails? Go and read Christ's words in John 7:24. "My particular version of Christianity" happens to be what is found in the bible. Gadreel however subscribes to a mish mash of new age philosophy with his own self-serving liberal bs sprinkled in. He objects to core teachings more rigourosly than some of the non-believers here. Because Gadreel advocates ideas that fly completely at odds to what is ascribed in the bible and official church doctrine. That makes him a heretic. You cannot be a Christian and deny the trinity and Christ's atonement. That's not entirely true. As Christians we can judge sin. Who are you to judge me for doing so?
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Post by gadreel on Feb 18, 2018 19:09:12 GMT
goz Does it still not occur to you, that you haven't a Scooby-Doo about what my religion entails? Go and read Christ's words in John 7:24. "My particular version of Christianity" happens to be what is found in the bible. Gadreel however subscribes to a mish mash of new age philosophy with his own self-serving liberal bs sprinkled in. He objects to core teachings more rigourosly than some of the non-believers here. Because Gadreel advocates ideas that fly completely at odds to what is ascribed in the bible and official church doctrine. That makes him a heretic. You cannot be a Christian and deny the trinity and Christ's atonement. That's not entirely true. As Christians we can judge sin. Who are you to judge me for doing so? I am a trinitarian, and I accept Jesus shows us the path to salvation. Once again I am only a heretic in your opinion.
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Post by goz on Feb 18, 2018 22:02:02 GMT
I am not a CHristian goz Does it still not occur to you, that you haven't a Scooby-Doo about what my religion entails? Go and read Christ's words in John 7:24. "My particular version of Christianity" happens to be what is found in the bible. Gadreel however subscribes to a mish mash of new age philosophy with his own self-serving liberal bs sprinkled in. He objects to core teachings more rigourosly than some of the non-believers here. Because Gadreel advocates ideas that fly completely at odds to what is ascribed in the bible and official church doctrine. That makes him a heretic. You cannot be a Christian and deny the trinity and Christ's atonement. That's not entirely true. As Christians we can judge sin. Who are you to judge me for doing so? I am judging you due to your hypocrisy of judging others. You God botherers do this consistently whilst you claim that God alone can judge. Once again, me reading your chapter and verse reference would only lead me to interpret my opinion of those words as you do. Gadreel see himself as a Christian and from what I can see follows the basic tenets of Christianity, once again you have no right to assume that his version is not as valid as your own, and seeing as he acts more like a nonjudgmental Christian he seems more genuine to me. What gives Christians like you, the right to judge other Christians, just because you disagree and YOU happen to think your version is the right one? He thinks his is too...as do Catholics and all the other denominations. You can't ALL be right! I am not a Christian so I am outside the pettiness of 'my interpretation is better than his interpretation'. Not being a believer, I am in a position to rationally and in an egalitarian fashion have an opinion on the facts of this particular discussion. I don't have to believe to have an opinion AND to add some rationality to this discussion. You Sir, just think you are right, and screw everyone else! May I remind you before you dismiss me as an atheistic agnostic, that this discussion is NOT about belief, it is about variants of interpretation, some of which have more validity than others and the relative right of different Christians to hold those personal beliefs.
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 18, 2018 22:33:21 GMT
goz And I am judging Gadreel due to him promoting false doctrines and constant undermining of biblical teachings whilst insisting that he is a Christian. The man is a heretic, that's all there to it. And that's a fact. You both may not like that, but tough. Facts don't care about your feelings. The difference is I can reasonably back up my position scripturally. He cannot. For example I believe Christ is the only pathway to salvation. 👇 "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved."Acts 4:12He on the other hand is of the opinion Christ is just one path to salvation. Where is his evidence for this claim? TBH I couldn't give a shit what you believe, Goz. All I know about you is that you're a lying, hypocritical, phoney feminist, deranged leftist idiot who isn't worth arguing with.
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Post by goz on Feb 18, 2018 23:13:09 GMT
goz And I am judging Gadreel due to him promoting false doctrines and constant undermining of biblical teachings whilst insisting that he is a Christian. The man is a heretic, that's all there to it. And that's a fact. You both may not like that, but tough. Facts don't care about your feelings. The difference is I can reasonably back up my position scripturally. He cannot. For example I believe Christ is the only pathway to salvation. 👇 "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved."Acts 4:12He on the other hand is of the opinion Christ is just one path to salvation. Where is his evidence for this claim? TBH I couldn't give a shit what you believe, Goz. All I know about you is that you're a lying, hypocritical, phoney feminist, deranged leftist idiot who isn't worth arguing with. NO, Gadreel is taking a different and eminently reasonable view. You are not the arbiter of what the Bible means and what undermines your personal viewpoint of church teachings. That you should even think that is laughably arrogant. You can ONLY back up on what you BELIEVE to be that interpretation of scripture, as there is no absolute in this matter, despite what you Fundies claim. Nice display of Christian values there. Casting epithets and personal insults doth not an argument make, and in fact, it very much looks like a defensive back down due to lack of cogent logical and reasonable arguments.
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 18, 2018 23:21:33 GMT
goz Tell me how many other ways can one reasonably interpret this passage? " Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”Acts 4:12I believe salvation is attained through Christ alone. Gadreel feels there are other pathways also. Which Christian is being truer to the text? You mean honesty? Thank you. What can I say, I call a spade a spade.
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Post by goz on Feb 19, 2018 0:53:46 GMT
goz Tell me how many other ways can one reasonably interpret this passage? " Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”Acts 4:12I believe salvation is attained through Christ alone. Gadreel feels there are other pathways also. Which Christian is being truer to the text? You mean honesty? Thank you. What can I say, I call a spade a spade. Gadreel would have to answer that, not YOU putting words in his mouth. BTW Did you translate that yourself from the Ancient Greek and are you a Greek scholar ( or whatever ancient language that particular part of the Bible was translated from) His view is just different and not wrong, whatever it is if he still claims to be a Christian and I have no reason to doubt his 'honest' word. Yes, honesty is a Christian value yet you have shown none of it in the nastiness you aimed at me personally, so if you honestly think and believe what you said about me, then you are a nasty little bigoted un-Christian worm. Edit: I just found this from Gadreel in his own words, where I notice you have not bothered with a reply.
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 23, 2018 13:24:59 GMT
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