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Post by justanaveragejoe on Feb 10, 2018 19:00:11 GMT
How about make a film thats on the same level of quality as Logan or Dark Knight for starters. But we know Disney dont have the guts to make an adult & mature CBM. It seems like Black Panther is already on the same level of quality as those 2, maybe even better.
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 10, 2018 19:27:47 GMT
Marvel is in a position to take chances, we don't want cookie cutter movies even if you fail, i would respect Marvel more, if they took a chance for once Wanting better MCU movies does not make you a hater. Calling them cookie-cutter movies despite them obviously being not... well, that clearly paints you a hater. Besides, considering that the MCU is currently making better superhero movies than any other studio, your complaint seems a bit weak.
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Post by summers8 on Feb 10, 2018 19:39:25 GMT
How about make a film thats on the same level of quality as Logan or Dark Knight for starters. But we know Disney dont have the guts to make an adult & mature CBM. It seems like Black Panther is already on the same level of quality as those 2, maybe even better. Logan and TDK are authentic movies that transcended the genre and will be remembered for years to come. BP is SJW that is out of control, that alone has already discredited the movie to be in the same ranks as Logan and TDK or even other mcu movies like Winter Solider that is still their best movie. Swap logan and tdk with black males and the result will be the same. swap BP with white males and remove the disney machine marketing, you could have another generic mcu movie. Oh wait, I get it. MCU fans now love RT again huh? next time read the reviews and see if you can get past people praising the film based on race. so sad. I can call Logan or TDK the greatest CBM movies of all time and I do not need an un-credible site like RT to back it up, I use actual film artistry. BP has only the race factor. that is going to hurt the movie in the long run. See GhostBusters 2016. a movie that has a higher rt score than Forrest Gump and The Gladiator based on gender like BP will be based on race. so sad.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 10, 2018 19:52:45 GMT
Logan and TDK are authentic movies that transcended the genre and will be remembered for years to come. They didn't transcend anything. And this "transcend the genre" argument is something only a person ashamed of comics would use. CBMs should be about elevating the genre so it becomes an appreciated and acceptable genre to the masses, the way the MCU does it. This attitude says way more about you than anything in BP. If by "generic" you mean "Roaring success", maybe. We always have. It's always been fair to us. It's DC and FoX-men fans who can't handle the truth. It's an inherent part of the movie and the character, always has been. It's from the source material, so why shouldn't the critics praise that? If you're a sell-out. If you did that, you'd see all the many many flaws Logan and TDK have. It also has superb acting and a superb story. But you're too disgusted with it for not being grounded, so you'll never see that.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 10, 2018 20:17:09 GMT
All I want from Marvel Studios is this: A hardcore R rated Punisher movie that uses a controversial story, like The Slavers, and is unapologetic with it's violence. Just do that with one character, no need to change the other film's. Just give me that, an awesome bloody balls to the wall Punisher film where he kills rapist and pedophiles. They could do it under a different logo. I mean, how many studios does Disney own now?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 20:22:15 GMT
It seems like Black Panther is already on the same level of quality as those 2, maybe even better. Logan and TDK are authentic movies that transcended the genre and will be remembered for years to come. BP is SJW that is out of control, that alone has already discredited the movie to be in the same ranks as Logan and TDK or even other mcu movies like Winter Solider that is still their best movie. Swap logan and tdk with black males and the result will be the same. swap BP with white males and remove the disney machine marketing, you could have another generic mcu movie. Oh wait, I get it. MCU fans now love RT again huh? next time read the reviews and see if you can get past people praising the film based on race. so sad. I can call Logan or TDK the greatest CBM movies of all time and I do not need an un-credible site like RT to back it up, I use actual film artistry. BP has only the race factor. that is going to hurt the movie in the long run. See GhostBusters 2016. a movie that has a higher rt score than Forrest Gump and The Gladiator based on gender like BP will be based on race. so sad. Oh fuck off. You haven't even seen it yet you just jump on the hate train for anything involving MCU.Honestly, you are very annoying. The race factor doesn't matter as many of the reviews praise the movie for it's merits. You maybe read a few and claimed they were all just praising it for race. Just cut the BS with comparing it to Ghostbusters 2016. Trust me there will be zero backlash except from the racists when this movie gets released. When the IMDB score gets back up when real votes come in and your theory on the backlash is proven wrong, I'm going to laugh. You are discrediting a movie that hasn't been released yet. Hmm, that sounds like troll behavior to me. Also you probably have me on ignore but I don't care it just makes you a coward and proves me right. You claimed I would've lost to you in a live debate but I'm sure you would actually lose given you keep having to say your opinions are facts. If you don't have anything good to say that then by all means leave this board.
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Post by blockbusted on Feb 10, 2018 20:27:55 GMT
Logan and TDK are authentic movies that transcended the genre and will be remembered for years to come. BP is SJW that is out of control, that alone has already discredited the movie to be in the same ranks as Logan and TDK or even other mcu movies like Winter Solider that is still their best movie. Swap logan and tdk with black males and the result will be the same. swap BP with white males and remove the disney machine marketing, you could have another generic mcu movie. Oh wait, I get it. MCU fans now love RT again huh? next time read the reviews and see if you can get past people praising the film based on race. so sad. I can call Logan or TDK the greatest CBM movies of all time and I do not need an un-credible site like RT to back it up, I use actual film artistry. BP has only the race factor. that is going to hurt the movie in the long run. See GhostBusters 2016. a movie that has a higher rt score than Forrest Gump and The Gladiator based on gender like BP will be based on race. so sad. Oh fuck off. You haven't even seen it yet you just jump on the hate train for anything involving MCU.Honestly, you are very annoying. The race factor doesn't matter as many of the reviews praise the movie for it's merits. You maybe read a few and claimed they were all just praising it for race. Just cut the BS with comparing it to Ghostbusters 2016. Trust me there will be zero backlash except from the racists when this movie gets released. When the IMDB score gets back up when real votes come in and your theory on the backlash is proven wrong, I'm going to laugh. You are discrediting a movie that hasn't been released yet. Hmm, that sounds like troll behavior to me. Also you probably have me on ignore but I don't care it just makes you a coward and proves me right. You claimed I would've lost to you in a live debate but I'm sure you would actually lose given you keep having to say your opinions are facts. If you don't have anything good to say that then by all means leave this board. Speaking of which, ‘Ghostbusters: Answer the Call’ is the only time I seriously have to question how it got such a high rating. Not only it resorts to reverse sexism, but it’s also blatantly disrespectful to fans of the series. Also, regarding ‘Black Panther’, isn’t the race issue supposedly the part of the film’s theme?
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 10, 2018 20:30:19 GMT
Logan and TDK are authentic movies that transcended the genre and will be remembered for years to come. BP is SJW that is out of control, that alone has already discredited the movie to be in the same ranks as Logan and TDK or even other mcu movies like Winter Solider that is still their best movie. Swap logan and tdk with black males and the result will be the same. swap BP with white males and remove the disney machine marketing, you could have another generic mcu movie. Oh wait, I get it. MCU fans now love RT again huh? next time read the reviews and see if you can get past people praising the film based on race. so sad. I can call Logan or TDK the greatest CBM movies of all time and I do not need an un-credible site like RT to back it up, I use actual film artistry. BP has only the race factor. that is going to hurt the movie in the long run. See GhostBusters 2016. a movie that has a higher rt score than Forrest Gump and The Gladiator based on gender like BP will be based on race. so sad. Oh fuck off. You haven't even seen it yet you just jump on the hate train for anything involving MCU.Honestly, you are very annoying. He's just bitter that the MCU restored the faith of the masses in unashamed stuff like costumes and superpowers and space and magic and stuff. As far as he's concerned none of that stuff should be in CBMs and having it automatically makes a CBM bad. He's trapped in the year 2000.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 20:31:00 GMT
Oh fuck off. You haven't even seen it yet you just jump on the hate train for anything involving MCU.Honestly, you are very annoying. The race factor doesn't matter as many of the reviews praise the movie for it's merits. You maybe read a few and claimed they were all just praising it for race. Just cut the BS with comparing it to Ghostbusters 2016. Trust me there will be zero backlash except from the racists when this movie gets released. When the IMDB score gets back up when real votes come in and your theory on the backlash is proven wrong, I'm going to laugh. You are discrediting a movie that hasn't been released yet. Hmm, that sounds like troll behavior to me. Also you probably have me on ignore but I don't care it just makes you a coward and proves me right. You claimed I would've lost to you in a live debate but I'm sure you would actually lose given you keep having to say your opinions are facts. If you don't have anything good to say that then by all means leave this board. Speaking of which, ‘Ghostbusters: Answer the Call’ is the only time I seriously have to question how it got such a high rating. Not only it resorts to reverse sexism, but it’s also blatantly disrespectful to fans of the series. Feminists, they just want good reviews for a movie with an all female cast. Hopefully Black Panther is just as good as the hype because unlike summers8 I actually read some of the reviews that praise the script and groundbreaking aspects of BP rather than just the diversity of the cast. Yes I suppose the race issue is part of the movie's theme but that shouldn't discredit the movie. Films like Selma and 12 years a slave focused on such issues and they were great.
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Post by blockbusted on Feb 10, 2018 20:44:20 GMT
Speaking of which, ‘Ghostbusters: Answer the Call’ is the only time I seriously have to question how it got such a high rating. Not only it resorts to reverse sexism, but it’s also blatantly disrespectful to fans of the series. Feminists, they just want good reviews for a movie with an all female cast. Hopefully Black Panther is just as good as the hype because unlike summers8 I actually read some of the reviews that praise the script and groundbreaking aspects of BP rather than just the diversity of the cast. Yes I suppose the race issue is part of the movie's theme but that shouldn't discredit the movie. Films like Selma and 12 years a slave focused on such issues and they were great. And I honestly wouldn’t have taken issues if the director didn’t bring his spite towards fans of the series right into the film by adding that nasty climax on how the villain is defeated.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 10, 2018 21:33:14 GMT
Oh fuck off. You haven't even seen it yet you just jump on the hate train for anything involving MCU.Honestly, you are very annoying. He's just bitter that the MCU restored the faith of the masses in unashamed stuff like costumes and superpowers and space and magic and stuff. As far as he's concerned none of that stuff should be in CBMs and having it automatically makes a CBM bad. He's trapped in the year 2000. What a dinosaur. I'm only trapped in 2006!!1
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Post by charzhino on Feb 10, 2018 22:56:58 GMT
Ragnarok is a deconstruction of Thor in previous movies, everything you know about him from his style and personality is destroyed and made a joke out of. So character development is bad and Thor should never change, got it. Its not character development its character bastardization. From this regal, authoritative, noble GOD: To this whiney little BITCH For the kids of course
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 10, 2018 23:01:37 GMT
So character development is bad and Thor should never change, got it. Its not character development its character bastardization. From this regal, authoritative, noble GOD: To this whiney little BITCH For the kids of course Please, if he'd stoically say there and done nothing when a guy came at him with alien chainsaw and drills you'd complain he was too stoic. Besides, he'd seen how being all regal and stuff hid Odin's nastier side. Choosing to be more honest shows he's rejecting that way.
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Post by charzhino on Feb 10, 2018 23:03:11 GMT
Its not character development its character bastardization. From this regal, authoritative, noble GOD: To this whiney little BITCH For the kids of course Please, if he'd stoically say there and done nothing when a guy came at him with alien chainsaw and drills you'd complain he was too stoic. Its not just that scene its the whole film hes like that. Throwing a softball at the widow and getting knocked down like a punk!
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 10, 2018 23:04:00 GMT
It shows just how immature a person is when they think the only way to make a good movie is to make it R rated.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 10, 2018 23:06:24 GMT
Please, if he'd stoically say there and done nothing when a guy came at him with alien chainsaw and drills you'd complain he was too stoic. Its not just that scene its the whole film hes like that. Throwing a softball at the widow and getting knocked down like a punk! He did that on purpose to distract Valkyrie long enough for him to grab the control disk remote. Seriously, pay attention.
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Post by charzhino on Feb 10, 2018 23:17:38 GMT
Its not just that scene its the whole film hes like that. Throwing a softball at the widow and getting knocked down like a punk! He did that on purpose to distract Valkyrie long enough for him to grab the control disk remote. Seriously, pay attention. No he didn't. They did it purely for laughs at the expense of thor.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 10, 2018 23:24:59 GMT
He did that on purpose to distract Valkyrie long enough for him to grab the control disk remote. Seriously, pay attention. No he didn't. They did it purely for laughs at the expense of thor. Yes he did, you need to get over your innate bias against anything that has any levity in it whatsoever. Dr Who does this sort of thing all the time.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 10, 2018 23:28:12 GMT
It shows just how immature a person is when they think the only way to make a good movie is to make it R rated. Immature?! I know you are, but what am I?
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Post by hardball on Feb 10, 2018 23:28:44 GMT
Nothing wrong with making movies fans and critics like.
Having humor doesn't make the film any less serious. And I don't get this obsession over making an R rated film. And Marvel has shown it can go hard with the Netflix series anyway.
Marvel take a chance for once? They took a chance casting RDJ as IM. They took a chance attempting a cinematic universe without their biggest properties - X Men and Spiderman - and they took a chance with GoTG, starring a bunch of characters people never heard of. They took a chance making Ant Man, and they took a chance with making another Spiderman film after the disappointment over the previous one.
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