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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 22:40:50 GMT
.......benefited greatly from boosters?  |
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Post by sostie on Feb 13, 2018 22:47:14 GMT
.......benefited greatly from boosters? Were some fitted to her sail boat? It would explain a lot about that journey. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Feb 13, 2018 23:03:54 GMT
.......benefited greatly from boosters? Did you mean bustiers? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 23:23:41 GMT
.......benefited greatly from boosters? Did you mean bustiers? No. That is sexist. Bustiers emphasize that women have bigger tits than men. All clothing should be gender neutral.  |
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Post by DSDSquared on Feb 14, 2018 12:51:51 GMT
It benefited from Gal being hot as Hell. Seriously. A few of my friends just saw it last night for the first time. They did not understand the hype. They said it was a decent movie, but nothing special, which is 100% true. I do not get why this movie is so praised. It is decent, nothing more. They also said that Gal being so hot elevated the movie an extra point in the ratings for them and I agree. She was amazing to look at, which helped.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Feb 14, 2018 15:17:44 GMT
Because it's a silly misconception mistaking cause and effect.
This is a well written movie with a message, stakes & character development (deaths) and good old fashioned storytelling. Importantly, it does not employ a tired gender confict narrative, instead it's about the human condition and about horrors of war (in a juvenile-orientated genre were comparatively we had ray-gun battles and Hail Hydra screaming Tomatohead villains).
If this movie had been an abomination it would have gone the way of Supergirl, Catwoman, Electra & Co, films that were destroyed by critics and audiences. So the respect and applause you earn because you created a commercially successful genre milestone against all odds and trends in such a genre is an effect, not the cause.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 14, 2018 15:49:29 GMT
Fairly generic and predictable story, the only real standout being that it's about a woman, directed by a woman and the first decent DCEU film. An obvious, old message, no stakes (we know WWI will go as recorded, and its a flashback so she won't be in any danger, and her love interest will be back). Stay away from Indiana Jones, then. You were decent after repeated messes, and critics were afraid of a misogyny backlash thanks to Ghostbusters from 2016. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Feb 14, 2018 16:09:40 GMT
There is something to the idea. I don't think anyone would deny that a large portion of the public will jump on the bandwagon when a movie becomes a cultural phenomenon - even before that movie is released. Avatar is an example, albeit after it's release. And certainly Wonder Woman is another example of a film that people were excited for, not only because it was a good film, but because of the hype and hyperbole that created a culture of excitement. it became a cultural phenomenon after realease indeed, before that there was a über-hostile athmosphere against Wonder Woman as being part of the DCEU and because of the "wrong" casting. MCU fanboys here and elsewere were praying and predicting it to flop "like a fat woman's tits" and drop "like your moms snickers on promnight" and opened countless threads about it, then came the reviews and the shock was deep because expectations were in the 30%-50% area.
The film conquered a new market segment, which is by far the hardest thing to do if you do not uild on a built in fanbase so much.
Supergirl is extremely hot too btw.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 14, 2018 16:43:46 GMT
There is something to the idea. I don't think anyone would deny that a large portion of the public will jump on the bandwagon when a movie becomes a cultural phenomenon - even before that movie is released. Avatar is an example, albeit after it's release. And certainly Wonder Woman is another example of a film that people were excited for, not only because it was a good film, but because of the hype and hyperbole that created a culture of excitement. then came the reviews and the shock was deep because expectations were in the 30%-50% area.
Can't blame them, given the DCEU's history.
Of course, MCU fans weren't hoping it would flop. Bad CBMs reflect poorly on the entire genre, not just DC.
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Post by Salzmank on Feb 14, 2018 16:48:47 GMT
Because it's a silly misconception mistaking cause and effect.
This is a well written movie with a message, stakes & character development (deaths) and good old fashioned storytelling. Importantly, it does not employ a tired gender confict narrative, instead it's about the human condition and about horrors of war (in a juvenile-orientated genre were comparatively we had ray-gun battles and Hail Hydra screaming Tomatohead villains).
If this movie had been an abomination it would have gone the way of Supergirl, Catwoman, Electra & Co, films that were destroyed by critics and audiences. So the respect and applause you earn because you created a commercially successful genre milestone against all odds and trends in such a genre is an effect, not the cause. Jedan, I found that bolded part one of the things I liked best about the movie: it didn’t attempt to sell us some wacky “battle of the sexes” narrative but, rather, cared simply about its characters and story. It’s not a “feminist superhero movie,” pandering to a belief system or ideology, but rather a movie with a female superhero—and a charming, likeable one as well. I was impressed with the movie because Miss Jenkins and the writers care so deeply about those characters; they come off as real people, not dummies who are going to be blown up for the sake of plot contrivance. I greatly enjoyed it. |
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Post by Salzmank on Feb 14, 2018 19:24:42 GMT
There is something to the idea. I don't think anyone would deny that a large portion of the public will jump on the bandwagon when a movie becomes a cultural phenomenon - even before that movie is released. Avatar is an example, albeit after it's release. And certainly Wonder Woman is another example of a film that people were excited for, not only because it was a good film, but because of the hype and hyperbole that created a culture of excitement. This is an entirely fair point, and absolutely true. Indeed, each of these two superhero series also counts, I think—which is (again) one of the reasons I dislike the shared-universe concept ipso facto. With that said, where WW succeeds is that it is actually a good movie (IMO, of course), and one of the points in its favor is its utter lack of pretension that could have, theoretically, stemmed from that “cultural phenomenon” bit. It’s really a very old-fashioned movie in its morals and style, thank God. If it had been a lousy movie and/or kept pushing feminism down our throats, believe me, I (for one) would criticize it as much as I did Avatar (which I’ve strongly disliked ever since it came out, cultural phenomenon or no). |
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Post by scabab on Feb 14, 2018 21:49:20 GMT
They said it was a decent movie, but nothing special, which is 100% true. I do not get why this movie is so praised. It is decent, nothing more. That's being overly harsh on the movie. It was directed and written very well. The characters were solid particularly the two main characters that were likable. The action sequences were impressive and well shot. It didn't overuse its humour and what little it had was pretty funny. It had good pacing. It had a good score especially the main theme. It had good set and costume designs. It was pretty solid throughout and didn't really do much wrong. |
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Post by outrider127 on Feb 14, 2018 23:06:45 GMT
The first 45 minutes of the film, while they're still on the magical island, was as good as anything I have ever seen in a DCEU movie--But the next hour, slogging thru the grim reality of WWI, really dragged--and then the last half hour was great--Great job by Gal Gadot, and the two actresses who played her mother and trainer/teacher
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Post by dazz on Feb 15, 2018 11:44:27 GMT
.......benefited greatly from boosters? probably because every CBM does, every CBM benefits from the CBM booster, you take almost any one of these films rename them and remove the classic superhero imagery and they don't do half as well with the otherwise same story, actors and character types, almost every film these days has "boosters", there the CBM boosters, Oscar booster, Horror Booster's, remake booster, sequel booster, spin off booster, adaptation booster, minority booster, sjw booster, female booster ect.
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Post by DSDSquared on Feb 15, 2018 12:25:54 GMT
They said it was a decent movie, but nothing special, which is 100% true. I do not get why this movie is so praised. It is decent, nothing more. That's being overly harsh on the movie. It was directed and written very well. The characters were solid particularly the two main characters that were likable. The action sequences were impressive and well shot. It didn't overuse its humour and what little it had was pretty funny. It had good pacing. It had a good score especially the main theme. It had good set and costume designs. It was pretty solid throughout and didn't really do much wrong. I agree, which is why it is a decent movie. You literally proved my point. |
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Post by damngumby on Feb 15, 2018 17:23:13 GMT
Because it's a silly misconception mistaking cause and effect.
This is a well written movie with a message, stakes & character development (deaths) and good old fashioned storytelling. Importantly, it does not employ a tired gender confict narrative, instead it's about the human condition and about horrors of war (in a juvenile-orientated genre were comparatively we had ray-gun battles and Hail Hydra screaming Tomatohead villains).
If this movie had been an abomination it would have gone the way of Supergirl, Catwoman, Electra & Co, films that were destroyed by critics and audiences. So the respect and applause you earn because you created a commercially successful genre milestone against all odds and trends in such a genre is an effect, not the cause. Jedan, I found that bolded part one of the things I liked best about the movie: it didn’t attempt to sell us some wacky “battle of the sexes” narrative but, rather, cared simply about its characters and story. It’s not a “feminist superhero movie,” pandering to a belief system or ideology, but rather a movie with a female superhero—and a charming, likeable one as well. I was impressed with the movie because Miss Jenkins and the writers care so deeply about those characters; they come off as real people, not dummies who are going to be blown up for the sake of plot contrivance. I greatly enjoyed it. Did you miss the part when the Chris Pine character blew himself up for the sake of plot contrivance? The thought of landing the plane and then detonating it from a safe distance apparently never occurred to him. I think that puts him squarely in the "dummie" category. But it sure did motivate Wonder Woman! ... which is precisely what the plot required at that moment. The Germans were also pretty stupid. "Hey! There's a hot chick in a mini skirt prancing across no-mans land! Let's all shoot directly at her shield!" |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 15, 2018 18:44:48 GMT
Jedan, I found that bolded part one of the things I liked best about the movie: it didn’t attempt to sell us some wacky “battle of the sexes” narrative but, rather, cared simply about its characters and story. It’s not a “feminist superhero movie,” pandering to a belief system or ideology, but rather a movie with a female superhero—and a charming, likeable one as well. I was impressed with the movie because Miss Jenkins and the writers care so deeply about those characters; they come off as real people, not dummies who are going to be blown up for the sake of plot contrivance. I greatly enjoyed it. Did you miss the part when the Chris Pine character blew himself up for the sake of plot contrivance? The thought of landing the plane and then detonating it from a safe distance apparently never occurred to him. I think that puts him squarely in the "dummie" category. But it sure did motivate Wonder Woman! ... which is precisely what the plot required at that moment. The Germans were also pretty stupid. "Hey! There's a hot chick in a mini skirt prancing across no-mans land! Let's all shoot directly at her shield!" How exactly would “the Chris Pine character” be able to detonate it without getting caught in the explosion? |
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Post by damngumby on Feb 15, 2018 20:29:53 GMT
How exactly would “the Chris Pine character” be able to detonate it without getting caught in the explosion? Set a fire and run. |
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Post by dazz on Feb 15, 2018 21:00:48 GMT
How exactly would “the Chris Pine character” be able to detonate it without getting caught in the explosion? Set a fire and run. Wasn't the point that they couldn't just let it explode or it would spread the gas and kill people, don't know how flying it into the air as to increase the dispersal range was meant to help with that but whatever, so they couldn't set a fire & run but why didn't Steve Trevor have a parachute? they were around back then right? he could have flown it up then parachuted down right?
But yeah like all of these films have his death was a convenient way to revitalise Diana at the moment she needed it most, still kinda silly as he could have died but not died by jumping with a chute and Diana could have been unaware but whatever.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 15, 2018 21:00:57 GMT
How exactly would “the Chris Pine character” be able to detonate it without getting caught in the explosion? Set a fire and run. Seems like that would only work if we assume that Steve Trevor could outrun a massive explosion. While I suppose that is possible in movie logic, it still doesn’t seem very probable if we applied real life logic. |
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