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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 16, 2018 21:08:39 GMT
Was Farrier getting rid of poison gas? No but, the the battlefield expedient way to neutralize chemical weapons would be to blow them up in place - especially if you’re pressed for time. Pressed for time? Wouldn’t landing the plane, then setting it on fire have taken more time? |
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Post by damngumby on Feb 16, 2018 21:33:13 GMT
I mention it to illustrate that even a metal WWII aircraft will burn quite nicely ... since you expressed doubt that an airplane would burn. Any other questions? ... or have we sufficiently established that Trevor could have easily destroyed the chemical weapons on the ground and walked away from it unscathed? No, we haven’t. The point of comparison you cited didn’t involve a plane that was full of highly flammable gas. The highly flammable gas isn't going to go highly flammable until something ignites it. Splash some fuel on a wing, set it on fire ... that should give you a couple minutes to get clear of the explosion when the fire reaches the bombs. Still confused? ... or are we good? |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 16, 2018 21:35:35 GMT
No, we haven’t. The point of comparison you cited didn’t involve a plane that was full of highly flammable gas. The highly flammable gas isn't going to go highly flammable until something ignites it. Splash some fuel on a wing, set it on fire ... that should give you a couple minutes to get clear of the explosion when the fire reaches the bombs. Still confused? ... or are we good? Wasn’t there enough gas in that plane to bomb London? It kind of seems like Steve Trevor would’ve been screwed no matter how he tried to dispose of it. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 17, 2018 3:21:59 GMT
They were at a German-occupied military airbase. He wouldn't have been able to create a long trail of gasoline without being spotted by the Germans.
The sniper? You mean the guy with PTSD who couldn't shoot the gunman at the top of the church? Would you risk the lives of thousands of civilians on a sniper with PTSD being able to create a spark from a distance?
It's as dumb as all the MCU fans who asked why Lois was on the plane with Colonel Hardy when they were going to use Kal-El's ship to send the Kyrptonians into the Phantom Zone in MoS. Lois didn't need to be on the plane as she could have easily explained to Dr. Hamilton what to do, who is a scientist after all. And what if Hamilton had a question that he needed to ask and Lois wasn't there? Well, they could try calling Lois with the plane's radio, but what if the radio was damaged during the battle? Would you risk the fate of the entire planet on Hamilton understanding exactly what needed to be done or on the radio working properly? Safer to have the only person who actually talked to Jor-El on the plane. it was him who even figured out what to do with the pod And it was Lois who that the key had to go all the way into the slot. If Lois wasn't there, Hamilton might've thought that the key being partially in the slot was enough. Hamilton might've had to call Lois to make sure. And like I said above, if the radio doesn't work, then the entire planet is fucked. Safer to have the only person who actually talked to Jor-El on the plane instead of risking the fate of the entire planet on Hamilton understanding exactly what needed to be done or on the radio working properly. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 17, 2018 3:25:36 GMT
Steve Trevor wasn’t a sniper as far as I recall. Anyway, how much gasoline would he need for the first thing you mentioned? Trevor wasn't but his mate was
So you would risk the lives of thousands of civilians on the Scotsman with PTSD who couldn't hit the German soldier at the top of the church in broad daylight being able to hit the plane's gas tank at night from a distance? |
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Feb 17, 2018 3:42:26 GMT
Lois didn't need to be on the plane as she could have easily explained to Dr. Hamilton what to do, who is a scientist after all. And what if Hamilton had a question that he needed to ask and Lois wasn't there? Well, they could try calling Lois with the plane's radio, but what if the radio was damaged during the battle? Would you risk the fate of the entire planet on Hamilton understanding exactly what needed to be done or on the radio working properly? Safer to have the only person who actually talked to Jor-El on the plane. it was him who even figured out what to do with the pod And it was Lois who that the key had to go all the way into the slot. If Lois wasn't there, Hamilton might've thought that the key being partially in the slot was enough. Hamilton might've had to call Lois to make sure. And like I said above, if the radio doesn't work, then the entire planet is fucked. Safer to have the only person who actually talked to Jor-El on the plane instead of risking the fate of the entire planet on Hamilton understanding exactly what needed to be done or on the radio working properly. Jor-El explained everything to Lois. There's no reason why she couldn't do the same verbatim to Hamilton, including the key going in all the way. Again, plot contrivance for Superman to save Lois again |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 3:42:43 GMT
Trevor wasn't but his mate was
So you would risk the lives of thousands of civilians on the Scotsman with PTSD who couldn't hit the German soldier at the top of the church in broad daylight being able to hit the plane's gas tank at night from a distance? Have you seen Black Panther yet?  |
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 17, 2018 3:47:59 GMT
So you would risk the lives of thousands of civilians on the Scotsman with PTSD who couldn't hit the German soldier at the top of the church in broad daylight being able to hit the plane's gas tank at night from a distance? Have you seen Black Panther yet? No, too busy this weekend preparing for the New Year. I've read that the movie is basically 1 long anti-Trump commercial. I'll just wait until the movie is posted online to watch it and give my review and rating then. |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 17, 2018 4:38:51 GMT
No but, the the battlefield expedient way to neutralize chemical weapons would be to blow them up in place - especially if you’re pressed for time. Pressed for time? Wouldn’t landing the plane, then setting it on fire have taken more time? Indeed it would have . That is why blowing it up “in place” would have been more expedient than flying to anywhere. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 17, 2018 5:16:31 GMT
Have you seen Black Panther yet? No, too busy this weekend preparing for the New Year. I've read that the movie is basically 1 long anti-Trump commercial. I'll just wait until the movie is posted online to watch it and give my review and rating then. So you're just going to steal it and give a half-assed review. As usual. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 17, 2018 5:18:20 GMT
Because if we did, Lois would've probably died of whiplash by now. I wasn’t asking why you said that, I was asking why you’re being inconsistent. Because the film itself is. It tries to make us think Diana is in real danger if she leaves Themyscira, but she's never in any real danger. It's supposed to be a "grounded" film but we get stuff like magic strength enhancing gas, we're supposed to see Steve's death as some great sacrifice but it was senseless, etc. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Feb 17, 2018 6:34:43 GMT
I love this new term, "boosters". So hip.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 17, 2018 12:03:40 GMT
I wasn’t asking why you said that, I was asking why you’re being inconsistent. Because the film itself is. It tries to make us think Diana is in real danger if she leaves Themyscira, but she's never in any real danger. It's supposed to be a "grounded" film but we get stuff like magic strength enhancing gas, we're supposed to see Steve's death as some great sacrifice but it was senseless, etc. I never got the impression that the movie was supposed to be particularly “grounded”. Are you forgetting that the movie had Greek Gods as part of its setting? |
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Post by sostie on Feb 17, 2018 12:29:52 GMT
Have you seen Black Panther yet? No, too busy this weekend preparing for the New Year. I've read that the movie is basically 1 long anti-Trump commercial. That you are utterly mis-informed Thief |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 17, 2018 13:32:20 GMT
Because the film itself is. It tries to make us think Diana is in real danger if she leaves Themyscira, but she's never in any real danger. It's supposed to be a "grounded" film but we get stuff like magic strength enhancing gas, we're supposed to see Steve's death as some great sacrifice but it was senseless, etc. I never got the impression that the movie was supposed to be particularly “grounded”. Are you forgetting that the movie had Greek Gods as part of its setting? The Gods who only appear in flashbacks and stories, and we only ever meet one (who is defeated rather quickly and easily)? Yeah, it's DC still unable to commit to being non-grounded. |
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Post by damngumby on Feb 17, 2018 14:10:58 GMT
The highly flammable gas isn't going to go highly flammable until something ignites it. Splash some fuel on a wing, set it on fire ... that should give you a couple minutes to get clear of the explosion when the fire reaches the bombs. Still confused? ... or are we good? Wasn’t there enough gas in that plane to bomb London? It kind of seems like Steve Trevor would’ve been screwed no matter how he tried to dispose of it. Yes, which is why it would have burned real nice. If Steve Trevor was portrayed as a reasonably intelligent person, he could have been a mile away before the fire he set reached the fuel tanks. If he was an imbecile and dropped a match into a fuel tank, then his plot driven stupidity would have been on par with what we saw in the movie. Any of this sinking in? |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 17, 2018 15:58:13 GMT
Wasn’t there enough gas in that plane to bomb London? It kind of seems like Steve Trevor would’ve been screwed no matter how he tried to dispose of it. Yes, which is why it would have burned real nice. If Steve Trevor was portrayed as a reasonably intelligent person, he could have been a mile away before the fire he set reached the fuel tanks. If he was an imbecile and dropped a match into a fuel tank, then his plot driven stupidity would have been on par with what we saw in the movie. Any of this sinking in? If the plane is highly flammable, wouldn’t the flames have reached the fuel tanks pretty quickly? |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 17, 2018 15:59:11 GMT
I never got the impression that the movie was supposed to be particularly “grounded”. Are you forgetting that the movie had Greek Gods as part of its setting? The Gods who only appear in flashbacks and stories, and we only ever meet one (who is defeated rather quickly and easily)? Yeah, it's DC still unable to commit to being non-grounded. Apart from the Gods, there’s also the fact that the Amazons are at least thousands of years old, and live on a magical island. Does that strike you as “grounded”? |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 17, 2018 18:42:28 GMT
The Gods who only appear in flashbacks and stories, and we only ever meet one (who is defeated rather quickly and easily)? Yeah, it's DC still unable to commit to being non-grounded. Apart from the Gods, there’s also the fact that the Amazons are at least thousands of years old, and live on a magical island. Does that strike you as “grounded”? You wouldn't know they were thousands of years old, seeing how naive Diana acts. It's lip service. And nothing on Themyscira comes off as magical. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 17, 2018 18:47:34 GMT
Apart from the Gods, there’s also the fact that the Amazons are at least thousands of years old, and live on a magical island. Does that strike you as “grounded”? You wouldn't know they were thousands of years old, seeing how naive Diana acts. It's lip service. And nothing on Themyscira comes off as magical. Diana was explicitly established as having been the only child on the island at the beginning of the film. Her naivety can easily be explained away by the fact that she had lived a sheltered life, with no connection to the outside world. Also, the fact that she doesn’t age over the course of 100 years should be a good indication of things. Also, Themiscyra is an island that’s hidden from the rest of the world by magic. Sounds pretty magical to me. |
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