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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 23:45:39 GMT
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 14, 2018 0:33:24 GMT
Easily both.
Wonder Woman got the feminist and the more liberal leaning media boost.
Black Panther got the Black community and Liberal leaning media boost.
Who won? Disney and Warner Bros.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 14, 2018 4:18:41 GMT
Definitely Black Panther.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2018 8:28:05 GMT
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Post by charzhino on Feb 14, 2018 11:03:04 GMT
Black Panther has almost untouchable boosters.
Wonder Woman still had critics saying the film was white washed and WW wasnt empowering because she was wearing skimpy clothing.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Feb 14, 2018 11:44:55 GMT
Depends on the kind of boosters.
What I liked about WW was that the film was not about girl power or gener conflict but old fashined storytelling about themes such as the causes of the horrors of war and human agression. The female lead thing was an ancilliary byproduct.
I have not seen BP. If BP is all about "we are black!" and black panther power, it has more immanent social engineering boosters than WW.
Also. The booster term sounds like what a jealous, retarded kid would say and should be abandoned, it's embarrassing. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 14, 2018 12:50:43 GMT
Depends on the kind of boosters.
What I liked about WW was that the film was not about girl power or gener conflict but old fashined storytelling about themes such as the causes of the horrors of war and human agression. The female lead thing was an ancilliary byproduct. If WW had been about a ridiculously naïve guy who goes out and did all the stuff Diana did, I doubt anyone would've give it a second thought. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Feb 14, 2018 12:53:50 GMT
Easily Black Panther. Wonder Woman also got boosters because it was a good film and the DCEU has made terrible films so far. No one and I mean no one can say anything negative about Black Panther. If you do not like it, you are racist. It is sad, really, what this world is coming to.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 14, 2018 13:01:23 GMT
No one and I mean no one can say anything negative about Black Panther. So like Dark Knight then. The so called "Perfect CBM". |
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Post by Jedan Archer on Feb 14, 2018 13:06:22 GMT
Depends on the kind of boosters.
What I liked about WW was that the film was not about girl power or gener conflict but old fashined storytelling about themes such as the causes of the horrors of war and human agression. The female lead thing was an ancilliary byproduct. If WW had been about a ridiculously naïve guy who goes out and did all the stuff Diana did, I doubt anyone would've give it a second thought.
It would have been even more successful, commercially speaking, There is a reason all female led CMBs flopped before and there were no female directors unlike with action films: Comic book fans are notoriously a demographic with the minds of little boys: They want to identify with the hero and compensate their real life insecurities by having a all-powerful muscle man admired by everybody - meaning they put themselves in their place thus fulfilling their narcissistic fantasies of being universally adored and powerful while in reality...basement dwelling and bad jobbing. Also, this is the first CMB that gave a artistically valuable depiction of war, remember in the similar built Cap1 they were fighting with ray guns and had Hail Hydra Nazis and villains with tomatoe heads during the Shoa. Just hideous, if you thought Raiders was stupid this added a new dimension of stupid, tact- abd tasteless.
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Post by damngumby on Feb 14, 2018 13:29:03 GMT
Obviously Wonder Woman, and it's not even close.
Wonder Woman got a boost by catering to 50% of the population.
Black Panther will cater to 13%.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 14, 2018 13:44:33 GMT
If WW had been about a ridiculously naïve guy who goes out and did all the stuff Diana did, I doubt anyone would've give it a second thought.
It would have been even more successful, commercially speaking, Doubt it, the story would've been criticized for being that generic. The Studios themselves didn't care or put any effort in. And they chose poor characters to make a movie about (Supergirl, Tank Girl, Barbed Wire, etc). Is that why Marvel, with their flawed and imperfect heroes, do so well? Maybe they want more than a blank Mr/Ms Perfect (DC's specialty). With magic strength gas and giggling German Scientists with plastic faces? And a God whispering stuff in their ears? They just showed, again, that the MCU Earth is not a "grounded" world and stuff like Aliens and Magic being around meant stuff would be different. Break out of your box. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Feb 14, 2018 14:09:26 GMT
Obviously Wonder Woman, and it's not even close. Wonder Woman got a boost by catering to 50% of the population. Black Panther will cater to 13%.  congrats, another utterly dumb thing to say. Let it be known, the world market is a lot bigger than your limited US horizon, cupcake.
Speaking of which, we had recent discussions where MCU fans claimed that calling black men monkeys is not racist. Seeing that you - a rabid MCU fan - have a user name of "King Kong" and an avatar depicting an angry black man unfavorably, I wonder what your stand on this is? 
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 14, 2018 14:13:11 GMT
Obviously Wonder Woman, and it's not even close. Wonder Woman got a boost by catering to 50% of the population. Black Panther will cater to 13%. congrats, another utterly dumb thing to say. Let it be known, the world market is a lot bigger than your limited US horizon, cupcake.
Speaking of which, we had recent discussions where MCU fans claimed that calling black men monkeys is not racist. Seeing that you - a rabid MCU fan - have a user name of "King Kong" and an avatar depicting an angry black man unfavorably, I wonder what your stand on this is?
Well, at least you're not continuing your obsession with excrement. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Feb 14, 2018 14:25:29 GMT
congrats, another utterly dumb thing to say. Let it be known, the world market is a lot bigger than your limited US horizon, cupcake.
Speaking of which, we had recent discussions where MCU fans claimed that calling black men monkeys is not racist. Seeing that you - a rabid MCU fan - have a user name of "King Kong" and an avatar depicting an angry black man unfavorably, I wonder what your stand on this is?
Well, at least you're not continuing your obsession with excrement. Well at least you are not trying to deflect by bringing up MCU's reliance on excrement in the face of racism discussions, are you. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 14, 2018 14:38:36 GMT
Well, at least you're not continuing your obsession with excrement. Well at least you are not trying to deflect by bringing up MCU's reliance on excrement in the face of racism discussions, are you. Seriously, you let two lines about excrement get you this worked up....stay away from Dune, man. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Feb 14, 2018 14:48:59 GMT
Well at least you are not trying to deflect by bringing up MCU's reliance on excrement in the face of racism discussions, are you. Seriously, you let two lines about excrement get you this worked up....stay away from Dune, man. and he derails & deflects further...
...btw two lines? Another lie. Just count how many times "turd" is mentioned in this scene alone, and there are other scenes.
Maybe you should begin to watch your own movie, might be an intellectual eye opener.
Btw note to the very slow ones, the turd discussion - unlike MCU which is really talking about actual turds and their sizes - is meant to symbolize the MCU spirit and it's juvenile fandom. "Hide the Zucchini" is as much a famously huge turd as anything else. Look, I'm Merry Poopins y'all. 
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 14, 2018 15:33:46 GMT
Seriously, you let two lines about excrement get you this worked up....stay away from Dune, man. and he derails & deflects further...
...btw two lines? Another lie. Just count how many times "turd" is mentioned in this scene alone Not many, not enough to get so bent out of shape over it. Grow a thicker skin. Naturalistic dialog and people who talk like people. Naturalistic dialog. |
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Post by damngumby on Feb 14, 2018 16:44:04 GMT
Obviously Wonder Woman, and it's not even close. Wonder Woman got a boost by catering to 50% of the population. Black Panther will cater to 13%. congrats, another utterly dumb thing to say. Let it be known, the world market is a lot bigger than your limited US horizon, cupcake.
Are you suggesting that the world population of black folks, excluding those from impoverished nations who are unlikely to be lining up in front of the local IMAX any time soon, is not 13%? Okay Ace, give us your figure. I hope it is more than a few percentage points from 13% ... if not, you're going to look like quite the dipwad ... who just hit himself with another unforced error. I'm glad I missed that conversation. It sounds like it was right up your alley. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2018 16:47:50 GMT
Some leftists hated WW. They didn't like that Gal Gadot was actually attractive (BODY SHAMING!!!), that she was an Israeli soldier (Israel is LITERALLY Nazi Germany!!!), or that Diana Prince was a fan of babies (BABIES AREN'T PEOPLE!!!).
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