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Post by Caesar Roberto on Feb 15, 2018 14:58:32 GMT
Do you use it, or have you ever?
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Post by Catman 猫的主人 on Feb 15, 2018 16:01:23 GMT
Catman used to use that a lot but was unaware it's still around.
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Post by Caesar Roberto on Feb 16, 2018 5:37:38 GMT
Catman used to use that a lot but was unaware it's still around. Yes it's still around but I'm not sure if it's as good as torrenting. I had heard about it previously but it all sounded so confusing that I was turned off from it. But last night I heard about it again but this time did more research until I kind of understood it. So I went ahead purchased a month of Usenet from Frugal Usenet and I'm trying it now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 6:03:36 GMT
I don't think I have heard of it before. What exactly is it for? Is it a social networking site like Myspace, Facebook and Twitter or a site for pictures like Instagram? 
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Post by Caesar Roberto on Feb 16, 2018 7:16:15 GMT
I don't think I have heard of it before. What exactly is it for? Is it a social networking site like Myspace, Facebook and Twitter or a site for pictures like Instagram?  No, it's like another form of file sharing. Apparently it has been around since like 1979, long before the internet as a way for 2 College's to share news with eachother.
Anyways it's still around and used by people similar to torrenting (but not as well known), but instead of sharing files with other people, all the files are hosted on servers called "Usenet". You then pay a Usenet provider to be able access it. Although getting set up seems needlessly confusing, but now that I've kind of got the hang of it I'm not that impressed. Very fast speeds though. 👍🏻 That is the main draw.
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Post by hardball on Feb 16, 2018 7:47:44 GMT
I used to download a lot of fractal images on Usenet. It took a while though because I was using a 56k.
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Post by hardball on Feb 16, 2018 7:48:32 GMT
I don't think I have heard of it before. What exactly is it for? Is it a social networking site like Myspace, Facebook and Twitter or a site for pictures like Instagram?  You make me feel old lol
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Post by mslo79 on Feb 26, 2018 5:34:27 GMT
Usenet (or Newsgroups) can be good (I used them in the past for years) but it's easier for people to screw with the files on there vs torrents which can't really be stopped. so torrent's are the general standard of file sharing overall and they are easier to use and are basically free where as Usenet is generally not free(although cheap enough). p.s. while I don't use one they say VPN's are best if your going to use public torrents as it makes it so no one can find you since it can't be traced back to you when you download something since they only trace it back to the VPN's IP address (so if they don't keep logs and don't disclose anything to anyone. your golden  ) and not your actual IP address and the traffic between your computer and the VPN is encrypted. I think there is some slight speed penalty with using a VPN but if you already got a fast connection it won't matter much. it's pretty easy once you understand how it works. but it's not as simple as a torrent though, but not that much harder either. www.altbinz.net/index.php ; use the free one (i.e. v0.25.0 ) on downloads page of which is what I used for years. but basically you just setup the username/password/server/port info and amount of connections you want. then you can use a website like www.binsearch.info/ to download a .nzb file (of whatever your trying to download) which is then loaded into the alt.binz program and it downloads your file(s) at your internet lines maximum speed. also, just make sure to avoid certain files you don't trust because of potential virus etc and then your pretty safe. I am sure there is a lot junk on there but I generally know what to look for when I used it a while ago so I was good. also, the 'par2' files you see are used to repair broken/damaged files. so in other words if someone uploads a video file and it's split into say 70 rar files and say some of the rar files are slightly corrupted or incomplete, you can use the par2 files to repair your download back to a 100% functional state. but this only works to some degree as it seems there are people actively messing with some files and they mess with just enough of it to where your download won't work. at this point in time... if you want to play it safe, use a VPN and then use torrents (with say with the 'qBittorrent' client). I think Usenet was better a while ago (say the earlier part of this decade or so) than it is now.
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Post by Caesar Roberto on Jan 4, 2019 4:47:16 GMT
Usenet (or Newsgroups) can be good (I used them in the past for years) but it's easier for people to screw with the files on there vs torrents which can't really be stopped. so torrent's are the general standard of file sharing overall and they are easier to use and are basically free where as Usenet is generally not free(although cheap enough). p.s. while I don't use one they say VPN's are best if your going to use public torrents as it makes it so no one can find you since it can't be traced back to you when you download something since they only trace it back to the VPN's IP address (so if they don't keep logs and don't disclose anything to anyone. your golden  ) and not your actual IP address and the traffic between your computer and the VPN is encrypted. I think there is some slight speed penalty with using a VPN but if you already got a fast connection it won't matter much. it's pretty easy once you understand how it works. but it's not as simple as a torrent though, but not that much harder either. www.altbinz.net/index.php ; use the free one (i.e. v0.25.0 ) on downloads page of which is what I used for years. but basically you just setup the username/password/server/port info and amount of connections you want. then you can use a website like www.binsearch.info/ to download a .nzb file (of whatever your trying to download) which is then loaded into the alt.binz program and it downloads your file(s) at your internet lines maximum speed. also, just make sure to avoid certain files you don't trust because of potential virus etc and then your pretty safe. I am sure there is a lot junk on there but I generally know what to look for when I used it a while ago so I was good. also, the 'par2' files you see are used to repair broken/damaged files. so in other words if someone uploads a video file and it's split into say 70 rar files and say some of the rar files are slightly corrupted or incomplete, you can use the par2 files to repair your download back to a 100% functional state. but this only works to some degree as it seems there are people actively messing with some files and they mess with just enough of it to where your download won't work. at this point in time... if you want to play it safe, use a VPN and then use torrents (with say with the 'qBittorrent' client). I think Usenet was better a while ago (say the earlier part of this decade or so) than it is now. Yeah I cancelled the Usenet after a month. It was fine, but torrents are just so much easier and more reliable. The main reason I got Usenet was for WEB-DL's of past tv shows and movies that never received Blu-ray releases but did release HD digital releases. Some of these were on usenet but not on torrents, or at least not on my 3 go-to trackers, or they were but were re-encodes. But yeah, other than that, torrents should usually have all the same stuff as Usenet I guess. I also discovered the MegaLinks subreddit, which can also be good for those WEB-DL's. For example I just recently got some WEB-DL's of The Office US seasons 1-4 (The only seasons that were never released on Blu-ray) from there in better quality than was available from my usual go-to trackers. One other good thing about Usenet was how it's "safer" than torrents. I've never had an issue with torrents in that regard but I do worry about the day there may be one, due to torrents become less popular due to so many people being brainwashed into subscribing to streaming services. I've considered a VPN before but I'm very skeptical. I don't really see how it's much/if at all "safer" than not using one. Especially now that they seem to be becoming very popular, and are no longer that "nerdy" thing to use that is not big enough for the government to really care about. How do we not know all the VPN's aren't in the governments pockets? For all we know they could be LESS safe than choosing to not use one.
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Post by mslo79 on Jan 4, 2019 7:39:44 GMT
Caesar Roberto I pretty much stopped using public torrents later last year to stay off the radar as they got plenty of those copyright notices being sent to ISP's etc. so nowadays... it's pretty much private torrent stuff or general website file downloads if you want to keep it free. USENET is better in that regard because you won't get any copyright infringement letters that way since it appears those notices are due mainly because of sharing files which torrents do as even if you download something quickly and then stop the torrent, if they happen to be on when your downloading they can nail you because your still technically sharing parts of the file etc.
basically I suggest you avoid public torrents unless your on a decent VPN if you want to be safe.
p.s. USENET is fast and convenient and better than torrent in some ways but I would imagine more and more stuff is being taken down than it used to be back on the earlier side of this decade. so the more 'good ol' days' of USENET might be somewhat behind us. Exactly. but ill re-phrase what you said... "'safer' than PUBLIC torrents". because private torrent sites are unlikely to cause you problems unless those random people who send out those copyright notices happen to get access to a private torrent tracker your using which seems much less likely to happen.
p.s. I tend to force encryption on my torrent client (like it won't accept any connection unless the torrent client it's connected to supports a encrypted connection) so even if a ISP is spying on you (which is unlikely as I doubt the ISP cares THAT much) they can't see exactly what your downloading. but that won't help you on a public tracker since people sending out copyright notices can still see your IP address. basically it would not really help on a private torrent tracker either if those people who send the copyright notices have access to the private tracker but it's much less likely they will have access to the private trackers and I suspect they pretty much stick to the usual public torrents that the masses use as it's easier for them to go after them etc.
Assuming your VPN does not leak etc (which the better ones won't) it's safer in the sense if someone tries to send a copyright infringement letter to your ISP they can't because they don't know your real IP address and will only see the VPN's and if the VPN is out of the country etc and pretty much ignores that crap, your basically golden simply because they can't find you since they can't see your real IP address. so if your using public torrents for "stuff" your definitely safer with a quality VPN than not. because a VPN is basically setup like this... YOUR PC > VPN SERVER > GENERAL INTERNET/TORRENTS. so your ISP can only see your connected to say a certain IP address (i.e. the VPN) but won't be able to see the data your downloading (be it a random website or torrent etc) since it's encrypted and those people that don't like you sharing torrents will only see the VPN IP ADDRESS and not your REAL IP ADDRESS. so if your VPN stays quiet about you, which the quality ones will, your basically golden. but it does appear some VPN's are better than others as you can generally look online for reviews etc as some VPN's should be solid but I imagine the decent ones probably cost a little more than those super cheap ones but if your going to get a VPN it's probably worth the slight $ premium for the peace of mind. p.s. I never used a VPN yet so I can't give you any recommendations.
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Post by Caesar Roberto on Jan 6, 2019 7:52:27 GMT
Caesar Roberto I pretty much stopped using public torrents later last year to stay off the radar as they got plenty of those copyright notices being sent to ISP's etc. Some of them are too good not to use though, like rutracker. It's probably also not big enough for them to take notice as much. ? I'm saying the VPN's may be compromised and no one knows it yet. The VPN providers saying they don't keep logs and good reviews don't mean anything these days. There is no peace of mind, that's my whole point.
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Post by mslo79 on Jan 7, 2019 5:13:26 GMT
Caesar RobertoStill, one is rolling-the-dice as if someone shares something, like is what happens on torrents, and it's publicly available there is always a chance you could get nailed. but from what I have read online it seems your more likely to get nailed for movies than for music, at least as of 2010-2014 data I seen online. basically this general post... https://www.reddit.com/r/torrents/comments/3zcdy1/what_are_your_chances_us_piracy_lawsuit_analysis/ either way... as a general rule, to be safe, avoid public torrents if you don't use a quality VPN. or if you do gamble on public torrents... I would probably avoid movies (and the like) at the least. I suspect that's possible, but unlikely. if the VPN is located in countries that ignore copyright claims etc then you should be pretty safe and I think for many of those copyright suits they tend to look for cost effective ways to get people so a VPN makes it that much harder to get someone as it's more effort and that right there makes them more likely to go after someone else that's easier to get to etc. plus, I don't think anyone is going to THAT extreme to nail people for basic copyright infringement for a basic download and the like. if they were you would have likely heard something by now. p.s. I would not write off all reviews on VPN's and other things. sure, the common persons review on a VPN might not mean much in some ways but I would imagine some reviews are done a bit more professionally than others are and those would carry at least some credibility. overall a VPN is definitely better than no VPN when it comes to public torrents as I doubt anyone would disagree with that, especially if you do a lot of downloading.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 5:17:57 GMT
Way back when.
I wouldn't bother using it for piracy. Your odds of getting clipped for using torrents, proxy or not, are up there with getting struck by lightning. I don't pirate a lot anymore but if I was worried, I'd probably just turtle back up into IRC before Usenet.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 6:41:49 GMT
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