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Post by itsmagic on Aug 25, 2019 23:27:47 GMT
some people don't understand the nature of the reality we exist in.
good & evil exist.
a Holy God created this universe. He makes the rules.
He sacrificed His Son to provide forgiveness of our sins. a New Covenant in His Blood. His Incomprehensible Love for us.
if there were any other way He would not have died.
He invites us to live in heaven forever with Him.
but mere mortals struggle to understand the OTHER side of His nature.
the ONE & ONLY TRUE HOLY God HATES EVIL. the Son of God came to destroy the works of demons.
EVIL has blinded this world with LIES. this is why we need to know what the Word of God's TRUTH says.
satan disguises himself as an angel of light. counterfeits who proclaim they are speaking for God. !!! LIARS !!!
false prophets who say Jesus didn't finish the work of God. believe THEM instead.
God prepared a place for all the devils. His WRATH is JUSTICE.
we ask for mercy through Jesus Knowing we are undeserving of His gift of eternal life.
knowing the fear of God is called Wisdom
No, that is logically incorrect. I don't believe that there is a God and you cannot prove otherwise, so why would I waste the perfectly good life I have here in this life bothering or even thinking about the next when I am pretty sure it doesn't even exist? ALL you can do is spout this God Bothering nonsense at me! Toothless tiger et al! Prove to me God does NOT exist. You can't.
there is more evidence for Jesus than for Shakespeare. Old & New testament. God's Witness in the Eternal court of TRUTH.
apparently you learned Nothing.
why do you exist ? why are you Here ? obviously not to learn about God.
so you seek to use the devils trickery and treachery to subvert others
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Post by goz on Aug 25, 2019 23:38:11 GMT
No, that is logically incorrect. I don't believe that there is a God and you cannot prove otherwise, so why would I waste the perfectly good life I have here in this life bothering or even thinking about the next when I am pretty sure it doesn't even exist? ALL you can do is spout this God Bothering nonsense at me! Toothless tiger et al! Prove to me God does NOT exist. You can't.
there is more evidence for Jesus than for Shakespeare. Old & New testament. God's Witness in the Eternal court of TRUTH.
apparently you learned Nothing.
why do you exist ? why are you Here ? obviously not to learn about God.
so you seek to use the devils trickery and treachery to subvert others
Prove to me that God exists. You can't. There is no evidence for God or Jesus being who it is claimed they are in the Bible because of the logical fallacy of circular arguments. Why do I exist? Because my father's sperm impregnated my mother's egg and I didn't miscarry and was born and haven't been killed or died ...yet. Simple. BTW The corollary of there being No God and Jesus is that there IS no devil. It is really beautiful and simple. I think you overthink it.
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Post by itsmagic on Aug 25, 2019 23:52:19 GMT
Prove to me God does NOT exist. You can't.
there is more evidence for Jesus than for Shakespeare. Old & New testament. God's Witness in the Eternal court of TRUTH.
apparently you learned Nothing.
why do you exist ? why are you Here ? obviously not to learn about God.
so you seek to use the devils trickery and treachery to subvert others
Prove to me that God exists. You can't. There is no evidence for God or Jesus being who it is claimed they are in the Bible because of the logical fallacy of circular arguments. Why do I exist? Because my father's sperm impregnated my mother's egg and I didn't miscarry and was born and haven't been killed or died ...yet. Simple. BTW The corollary of there being No God and Jesus is that there IS no devil. It is really beautiful and simple. I think you overthink it.
there exists that than which there is no greater. God is HE than which there is no greater.
therefore: God EXISTS.
you think some little syllogism is going to "explain away" God. or save you in the end
still haven't answered why you are HERE.
doing exactly what lucifer does. lie about God
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Post by goz on Aug 26, 2019 0:24:04 GMT
Prove to me that God exists. You can't. There is no evidence for God or Jesus being who it is claimed they are in the Bible because of the logical fallacy of circular arguments. Why do I exist? Because my father's sperm impregnated my mother's egg and I didn't miscarry and was born and haven't been killed or died ...yet. Simple. BTW The corollary of there being No God and Jesus is that there IS no devil. It is really beautiful and simple. I think you overthink it.
there exists that than which there is no greater. God is HE than which there is no greater.
therefore: God EXISTS.
you think some little syllogism is going to "explain away" God. or save you in the end
still haven't answered why you are HERE.
doing exactly what lucifer does. lie about God
LOL...this is so exciting, arguing with a dyed in the wool Bible basher and tub thumper. I am convinced that their is neither God nor devil, on the evidence and I am betting my life on it and living it to the full, without fear...it is so liberating to be intelligent logical and responsible for your own morals, actions and beliefs, without it being imposed on me by an outdated fairytale storybook and corrupt mostly male church officials. You should try it some time!
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Post by itsmagic on Aug 26, 2019 1:47:45 GMT
there exists that than which there is no greater. God is HE than which there is no greater.
therefore: God EXISTS.
you think some little syllogism is going to "explain away" God. or save you in the end
still haven't answered why you are HERE.
doing exactly what lucifer does. lie about God
LOL...this is so exciting, arguing with a dyed in the wool Bible basher and tub thumper. I am convinced that their is neither God nor devil, on the evidence and I am betting my life on it and living it to the full, without fear...it is so liberating to be intelligent logical and responsible for your own morals, actions and beliefs, without it being imposed on me by an outdated fairytale storybook and corrupt mostly male church officials. You should try it some time! it is IMPOSSIBLE for God to lie.
i choose to believe God.
freely. chosen.
not blinded by the lies of demons.
you are self condemned.
i am the guy warning others to save people from driving into the river of molten lava that has burned the bridge out.
your choice to go down That road
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Post by goz on Aug 26, 2019 2:10:32 GMT
LOL...this is so exciting, arguing with a dyed in the wool Bible basher and tub thumper. I am convinced that their is neither God nor devil, on the evidence and I am betting my life on it and living it to the full, without fear...it is so liberating to be intelligent logical and responsible for your own morals, actions and beliefs, without it being imposed on me by an outdated fairytale storybook and corrupt mostly male church officials. You should try it some time! it is IMPOSSIBLE for God to lie.
i choose to believe God.
freely. chosen.
not blinded by the lies of demons.
you are self condemned.
i am the guy warning others to save people from driving into the river of molten lava that has burned the bridge out.
your choice to go down That road Meh! Doesn't matter to me as I KNOW that there is no god and no devil.
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Post by itsmagic on Aug 26, 2019 4:58:15 GMT
meanwhile, back at the ranch, i had been traveling, etc. at times, so i have not yet gotten around to responding to some
previous posts. or the misunderstandings that some may have erroneously attributed to me as if i were (fill in the blank). soon.
more urgent matters are to address one of the Main Points of this thread. assisting by Providing Suggestions for Additional Ways We,
as American citizens, can think of to help law enforcement, etc to be aware of & respond to Dangerous People BEFORE Things Happen.
(being aware of the fact that we are actually At War on a number of fronts-domestically from terrorism, as well as overseas.
And our children are going back to school). the ball has been dropped Too Many Times. even when warnings were given.
some examples - pearl harbor, JFK, oklahoma city, first world trade center attack, 9-11, parkland, ted bundy, son of sam, SS Cole, el paso, osama, isis, etc. Places where our "System" Failed Miserably. from sheriff depts, to intel on up.
one thing i think needs to be Immediately looked at is Early Behavioral Issues ( see previous Hares psychopathy checklist ) in
young perpetrators under age 18. those Known in their neighborhoods as loose cannons. on the bus, at school, after school,
everywhere they demonstrate Predatory and Dangerous behaviors. some issues of Many Kinds. arson. certain categories of theft.
killing small animals. violent assaults. rapes. carjacking. knifings. murders. etc
i believe these types of people, in certain cases for certain crimes to be specified, FORFEIT their right to Anonymity.
for EVERYONE'S PROTECTION from them. this would be a New Database Requiring some crimes, like murder when
under the age of 18, to be Automatically entered into Lifetime records for Prevention Purposes. no firearms and
certain weapon types. maybe some should never operate a motor vehicle again.
in some cases removal from schools -to be required- for special programming.
this is about PREVENTION. Suggestions learned from all relevant facts gleaned from EACH Incident where our
"System" failed or could be improved
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Post by goz on Aug 26, 2019 6:14:26 GMT
meanwhile, back at the ranch, i had been traveling, etc. at times, so i have not yet gotten around to responding to some
previous posts. or the misunderstandings that some may have erroneously attributed to me as if i were (fill in the blank). soon.
more urgent matters are to address one of the Main Points of this thread. assisting by Providing Suggestions for Additional Ways We,
as American citizens, can think of to help law enforcement, etc to be aware of & respond to Dangerous People BEFORE Things Happen.
(being aware of the fact that we are actually At War on a number of fronts-domestically from terrorism, as well as overseas.
And our children are going back to school). the ball has been dropped Too Many Times. even when warnings were given.
some examples - pearl harbor, JFK, oklahoma city, first world trade center attack, 9-11, parkland, ted bundy, son of sam, SS Cole, el paso, osama, isis, etc. Places where our "System" Failed Miserably. from sheriff depts, to intel on up.
one thing i think needs to be Immediately looked at is Early Behavioral Issues ( see previous Hares psychopathy checklist ) in
young perpetrators under age 18. those Known in their neighborhoods as loose cannons. on the bus, at school, after school,
everywhere they demonstrate Predatory and Dangerous behaviors. some issues of Many Kinds. arson. certain categories of theft.
killing small animals. violent assaults. rapes. carjacking. knifings. murders. etc
i believe these types of people, in certain cases for certain crimes to be specified, FORFEIT their right to Anonymity.
for EVERYONE'S PROTECTION from them. this would be a New Database Requiring some crimes, like murder when
under the age of 18, to be Automatically entered into Lifetime records for Prevention Purposes. no firearms and
certain weapon types. maybe some should never operate a motor vehicle again.
in some cases removal from schools -to be required- for special programming.
this is about PREVENTION. Suggestions learned from all relevant facts gleaned from EACH Incident where our
"System" failed or could be improved
Getting rid of access to guns would be more effective and less intrusive to individual's rights, no matter their age.
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Post by itsmagic on Aug 26, 2019 7:00:59 GMT
it is IMPOSSIBLE for God to lie.
i choose to believe God.
freely. chosen.
not blinded by the lies of demons.
you are self condemned.
i am the guy warning others to save people from driving into the river of molten lava that has burned the bridge out.
your choice to go down That road Meh! Doesn't matter to me as I KNOW that there is no god and no devil. with Eternal Beings
there are Eternal Truths
with Eternal Consequences
whether we believe in them or not
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Post by goz on Aug 26, 2019 7:05:55 GMT
Meh! Doesn't matter to me as I KNOW that there is no god and no devil. with Eternal Beings
there are Eternal Truths
with Eternal Consequences
whether we believe in them or not
Nope. Since there are no such things, it would be foolish to believe this rubbish.
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Post by fatpaul on Aug 27, 2019 7:29:18 GMT
People who exhibit behaviour, such as odd typing preferences so as to be apart from the crowd, won't be getting into Heaven. And if you're a lefty then you're definitely fucked. Apparently God doesn't like people who are different than the crowd.
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Post by itsmagic on Aug 27, 2019 8:06:54 GMT
People who exhibit behaviour, such as odd typing preferences so as to be apart from the crowd, won't be getting into Heaven. And if you're a lefty then you're definitely fucked. Apparently God doesn't like people who are different than the crowd.
i can give you chapter and verse for everything i believe.
share your insights from scripture with us
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Post by goz on Aug 27, 2019 8:44:50 GMT
People who exhibit behaviour, such as odd typing preferences so as to be apart from the crowd, won't be getting into Heaven. And if you're a lefty then you're definitely fucked. Apparently God doesn't like people who are different than the crowd.
i can give you chapter and verse for everything i believe.
share your insights from scripture with us
Scripture sucks donkey balls. It is merely made up stuff by ancient old men wearing tea towels on their heads.
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Post by itsmagic on Aug 27, 2019 9:28:28 GMT
i can give you chapter and verse for everything i believe.
share your insights from scripture with us
Scripture sucks donkey balls. It is merely made up stuff by ancient old men wearing tea towels on their heads.
yet another place where you demonstrate your complete IGNORANCE
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Post by goz on Aug 27, 2019 22:17:00 GMT
Scripture sucks donkey balls. It is merely made up stuff by ancient old men wearing tea towels on their heads.
yet another place where you demonstrate your complete IGNORANCE
Why am I ignorant? I spent six years studying the subject and came up with this conclusion. You, on the other hand have no evidence whatsoever that there is a God beyond the usual range of logical fallacies which are easily disproven. I repeat. That is your right, however it is NOT your right to claim that what you believe is fact. It is not. As I said, I am an agnostic atheist which means that I don't have a belief in God due to lack of evidence, butt I acknowledge that the truth may be unknowable, because the ultimate truth for us all is after we die and none comes back from that. In the mean time I don't live in fear and enjoy the only life that I think I have. It seems the only reasonable option to me. I think YOU are the ignorant one if you fail to understand the totality of science philosophy and humanity of living in this universe which created us.
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Post by itsmagic on Aug 28, 2019 3:10:58 GMT
yet another place where you demonstrate your complete IGNORANCE
Why am I ignorant? I spent six years studying the subject and came up with this conclusion. You, on the other hand have no evidence whatsoever that there is a God beyond the usual range of logical fallacies which are easily disproven. I repeat. That is your right, however it is NOT your right to claim that what you believe is fact. It is not. As I said, I am an agnostic atheist which means that I don't have a belief in God due to lack of evidence, butt I acknowledge that the truth may be unknowable, because the ultimate truth for us all is after we die and none comes back from that. In the mean time I don't live in fear and enjoy the only life that I think I have. It seems the only reasonable option to me. I think YOU are the ignorant one if you fail to understand the totality of science philosophy and humanity of living in this universe which created us. share with us some of your insights from scripture gleaned in the 6yrs you claimed to have studied. pick any topic, any person.
anything you think you understand from your vast knowledge. pick a book, a verse.
since page 4 we have discussed Many things. you didn't answer many of my questions. give me one example of a contradiction from
scripture. you asked me to give my reasoning for my belief earlier in the thread.
quid pro quo clarisse
show us your vast understanding of this passage of scripture.
i pick ROMANS 1:18-32.
ready & go.
oh, when time stops on the day of judgement you WILL BE convinced of the existence of God. FACT. ETERNAL TRUTH.
that's why we have the bible. God's testimony of the PROOF you as an "agnostic" might want to think to about,
IF you are searching for the TRUTH.
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Post by goz on Aug 28, 2019 4:06:17 GMT
Why am I ignorant? I spent six years studying the subject and came up with this conclusion. You, on the other hand have no evidence whatsoever that there is a God beyond the usual range of logical fallacies which are easily disproven. I repeat. That is your right, however it is NOT your right to claim that what you believe is fact. It is not. As I said, I am an agnostic atheist which means that I don't have a belief in God due to lack of evidence, butt I acknowledge that the truth may be unknowable, because the ultimate truth for us all is after we die and none comes back from that. In the mean time I don't live in fear and enjoy the only life that I think I have. It seems the only reasonable option to me. I think YOU are the ignorant one if you fail to understand the totality of science philosophy and humanity of living in this universe which created us. share with us some of your insights from scripture gleaned in the 6yrs you claimed to have studied. pick any topic, any person.
anything you think you understand from your vast knowledge. pick a book, a verse.
since page 4 we have discussed Many things. you didn't answer many of my questions. give me one example of a contradiction from
scripture. you asked me to give my reasoning for my belief earlier in the thread.
quid pro quo clarisse
show us your vast understanding of this passage of scripture.
i pick ROMANS 1:18-32.
ready & go.
oh, when time stops on the day of judgement you WILL BE convinced of the existence of God. FACT. ETERNAL TRUTH.
that's why we have the bible. God's testimony of the PROOF you as an "agnostic" might want to think to about,
IF you are searching for the TRUTH.
Interesting concept you have here! You think I am ignorant because I have studied scripture and find it not worth any more of my time? It is NOT worth any more of my time because it is fictitious quasi history and quasi divinity. It is not the truth, so I dismiss it for what it is worth. A historic collection of fables from ancient old men...collated at a much later date by other sightly less ancient old man. Discussing scripture therefore is NOT a sign of intellect nor intelligence nor knowledge. It is what it is...a waste of time.
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Post by itsmagic on Aug 28, 2019 5:17:53 GMT
share with us some of your insights from scripture gleaned in the 6yrs you claimed to have studied. pick any topic, any person.
anything you think you understand from your vast knowledge. pick a book, a verse.
since page 4 we have discussed Many things. you didn't answer many of my questions. give me one example of a contradiction from
scripture. you asked me to give my reasoning for my belief earlier in the thread.
quid pro quo clarisse
show us your vast understanding of this passage of scripture.
i pick ROMANS 1:18-32.
ready & go.
oh, when time stops on the day of judgement you WILL BE convinced of the existence of God. FACT. ETERNAL TRUTH.
that's why we have the bible. God's testimony of the PROOF you as an "agnostic" might want to think to about,
IF you are searching for the TRUTH.
Interesting concept you have here! You think I am ignorant because I have studied scripture and find it not worth any more of my time? It is NOT worth any more of my time because it is fictitious quasi history and quasi divinity. It is not the truth, so I dismiss it for what it is worth. A historic collection of fables from ancient old men...collated at a much later date by other sightly less ancient old man. Discussing scripture therefore is NOT a sign of intellect nor intelligence nor knowledge. It is what it is...a waste of time. - SO -
1) you ARE Completely Ignorant of scripture { despite your appeal to authority - having Studied 6 LONG YEARS ! }
2) you have demonstrated NOTHING to PROVE ANY KNOWLEDGE of scripture { your hissing vendetta betrays you }
3) therefore : you ARE ignorant { and perhaps more than a liar too }
quid pro quo clarisse
i answered your question earlier in the thread.
chapter and verse
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Post by goz on Aug 28, 2019 5:26:05 GMT
Interesting concept you have here! You think I am ignorant because I have studied scripture and find it not worth any more of my time? It is NOT worth any more of my time because it is fictitious quasi history and quasi divinity. It is not the truth, so I dismiss it for what it is worth. A historic collection of fables from ancient old men...collated at a much later date by other sightly less ancient old man. Discussing scripture therefore is NOT a sign of intellect nor intelligence nor knowledge. It is what it is...a waste of time. - SO -
1) you ARE Completely Ignorant of scripture { despite your appeal to authority - having Studied 6 LONG YEARS ! }
2) you have demonstrated NOTHING to PROVE ANY KNOWLEDGE of scripture { your hissing vendetta betrays you }
3) therefore : you ARE ignorant { and perhaps more than a liar too }
quid pro quo clarisse
i answered your question earlier in the thread.
chapter and verse
Are you seriously claiming I am ignorant on the grounds that I dismiss talking about the ins and outs of scripture, because it is a worthless waste of time? The Bible and its contents is merely a compilation of out of date, overly translated and misconstrued fables and not worth the time to discuss. What is it about studying it, finding it nonsensical contradictory and an almost complete fabrication, that you don't understand?
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Post by fatpaul on Aug 28, 2019 16:23:16 GMT
People who exhibit behaviour, such as odd typing preferences so as to be apart from the crowd, won't be getting into Heaven. And if you're a lefty then you're definitely fucked. Apparently God doesn't like people who are different than the crowd.
i can give you chapter and verse for everything i believe.
share your insights from scripture with us
I was being facetious. I'm an atheist so I have no insights from scripture.
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