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Post by cupcakes on Feb 22, 2018 21:19:50 GMT
tpfkar How can that be if they have never heard of him? But they had heard of him. From the moment of Adam and Eve's "fall from grace" moment in Eden, God prophesied about the coming Messiah. It was faith in this coming Messiah that will save those who came before Jesus. The OT is chock full of examples of this. Ripe for some charlatan/nutbag to step in and lead the guileless doctrinaire.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 22, 2018 21:19:54 GMT
On the contrary, I'm saying it's at least as easy to read as any other classical literature. Then why do Christians often read so much more into it than other classical literature? 1. Tail wagging the dog syndrome. It's the same thing goofy non-religious people do to come up with questions about how blacks shouldn't be Christians because of what white dudes did almost 2,000 years later. You can always find something out of context to back something you desperately want to believe. 2. Most people don;t tun to a ancient book for worship in the first place, but of the few holy books out there, the Bible is not the most difficult by a long shot. You will be happy to know that whenever you feel confused about Scripture, I will be hear to help you!  |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 22, 2018 21:21:01 GMT
How did he get to China? Chariot of fire? But that's what I'm talking about. The effects would be amazing. I just hope they find a good writer... Same way he got to India. Chariot of Fire? |
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Post by goz on Feb 22, 2018 21:21:57 GMT
I have heard that theory, and it seems like a strange way to go about it, surely an omnipotent god would seed his ideas among the various peoples of the earth in ways that made sense to them throughout time, as opposed to once in an obscure town and then find a way to shoehorn everyone in at some point in the future. The Yi vessel thing is interesting, but also seems pretty spurious on cursory investigation. It makes a whole lot more sense to provide grace for the ignorant than it would to inspire them to believe the wrong thing. They literally say in the Bible that Jesus is a propitiatory sacrifice meaning it does indeed cover everyone across all times who wants to be covered and ho aren't specifically excluded. This doesn't mean that they get to stay ignorant, only that they are given the opportunity to become smart in contrast to the wicked. That is nice and convenient!  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 21:22:34 GMT
Then why do Christians often read so much more into it than other classical literature? 1. Tail wagging the dog syndrome. It's the same thing goofy non-religious people do to come up with questions about how blacks shouldn't be Christians because of what white dudes did almost 2,000 years later. You can always find something out of context to back something you desperately want to believe. 2. Most people don;t tun to a ancient book for worship in the first place, but of the few holy books out there, the Bible is not the most difficult by a long shot. You will be happy to know that whenever you feel confused about Scripture, I will be hear to help you! Goz reads the Bible?  |
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Post by deembastille on Feb 22, 2018 21:25:52 GMT
are you assholes still yakking about this?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 21:26:03 GMT
Same way he got to India. Chariot of Fire? I would imagine it was conventional means, but, who am I to say? Paul was taken away in a supernatural manner, so, perhaps the other apostles were given similar methods for all I know. |
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Post by goz on Feb 22, 2018 21:29:50 GMT
1. Tail wagging the dog syndrome. It's the same thing goofy non-religious people do to come up with questions about how blacks shouldn't be Christians because of what white dudes did almost 2,000 years later. You can always find something out of context to back something you desperately want to believe. 2. Most people don;t tun to a ancient book for worship in the first place, but of the few holy books out there, the Bible is not the most difficult by a long shot. You will be happy to know that whenever you feel confused about Scripture, I will be hear to help you! Goz reads the Bible? Funny story ( and true) I was, in fact made to read the Bible for six years as I attended a posh Anglican school on a scholarship for my high school education. We had a subject called Divinity which was compulsory, and in the end of year exams, shall we say my normal grades were not the same as my grade in Divinity? Being a scholarship girl, I HAD to pass or be seen to pass, so my grades were 50%,50%,50%,50%,50%,50%.  I therefore have evidence that I know 50% of the Bible.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 21:32:23 GMT
Goz reads the Bible? Funny story ( and true) I was, in fact made to read the Bible for six years as I attended a posh Anglican school on a scholarship for my high school education. We had a subject called Divinity which was compulsory, and in the end of year exams, shall we say my normal grades were not the same as my grade in Divinity? Being a scholarship girl, I HAD to pass or be seen to pass, so my grades were 50%,50%,50%,50%,50%,50%. I therefore have evidence that I know 50% of the Bible. I'm sure you'll not waste anymore of your life and will apply yourself to learning that other 50% right away. If you need help interpreting, I would suggest skipping over CoolJGS or me for help. Gadreel's the one you want to go to. After all, his wife taught theology....in night school!  |
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Post by gadreel on Feb 22, 2018 21:35:44 GMT
Funny story ( and true) I was, in fact made to read the Bible for six years as I attended a posh Anglican school on a scholarship for my high school education. We had a subject called Divinity which was compulsory, and in the end of year exams, shall we say my normal grades were not the same as my grade in Divinity? Being a scholarship girl, I HAD to pass or be seen to pass, so my grades were 50%,50%,50%,50%,50%,50%. I therefore have evidence that I know 50% of the Bible. I'm sure you'll not waste anymore of your life and will apply yourself to learning that other 50% right away. If you need help interpreting, I would suggest skipping over CoolJGS or me for help. Gadreel's the one you want to go to. After all, his wife taught theology....in night school! Don't be a douche. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 21:40:33 GMT
I'm sure you'll not waste anymore of your life and will apply yourself to learning that other 50% right away. If you need help interpreting, I would suggest skipping over CoolJGS or me for help. Gadreel's the one you want to go to. After all, his wife taught theology....in night school! Don't be a douche. I'm not. I'm not interested in hurting anyone's feelings. Including yours, even though you've insinuated numerous times that I am an idiot, douche, etc. I'm only teasing. And I only said it because the night school thing was something someone else was getting teased about, because I joked about the idea with Goz after she had a confrontation with the aforementioned poster and because of the brutal tongue lashing she gave me earlier on your behalf (where she backed your extensive knowledge and faith). |
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 22, 2018 21:44:59 GMT
tpfkar Same way he got to India. Chariot of Fire? On the wings of a snow white dove.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 22, 2018 21:52:54 GMT
are you assholes still yakking about this? A thread about black people hating Christianity because of white dudes would be unsustainable for this many pages. It's moved on to Revelation and Chinese people who must become Christians either by preaching or by osmosis via their own beliefs which is just as well since the Bible is so open to interpretation, there's not point in getting any knowledge from it anyway. Now that you're up to speed, come back when it's at page 50... |
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Post by goz on Feb 22, 2018 21:53:41 GMT
I'm not. I'm not interested in hurting anyone's feelings. Including yours, even though you've insinuated numerous times that I am an idiot, douche, etc. I'm only teasing. And I only said it because the night school thing was something someone else was getting teased about, because I joked about the idea with Goz after she had a confrontation with the aforementioned poster and because of the brutal tongue lashing she gave me earlier on your behalf (where she backed your extensive knowledge and faith). Don't squabble over my brutal tongue lashings, fellahs! there are always plenty to go around... and beside, I prefer choir boys! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 21:57:21 GMT
I'm not. I'm not interested in hurting anyone's feelings. Including yours, even though you've insinuated numerous times that I am an idiot, douche, etc. I'm only teasing. And I only said it because the night school thing was something someone else was getting teased about, because I joked about the idea with Goz after she had a confrontation with the aforementioned poster and because of the brutal tongue lashing she gave me earlier on your behalf (where she backed your extensive knowledge and faith). Don't squabble over my brutal tongue lashings, fellahs! there are always plenty to go around... and beside, I prefer choir boys! That leaves me out. I was kicked out of private school. I look forward, though, to future tongue lashings. It makes me a little homesick, actually. |
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Post by captainbryce on Feb 23, 2018 13:35:37 GMT
are you assholes still yakking about this? A thread about black people hating Christianity because of white dudes would be unsustainable for this many pages. In reality check fairness, that was never what the thread was about. |
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 23, 2018 14:14:13 GMT
tpfkar It will be at this point that God will rebuke the rest of the world in favor of the Jews. That doesn't make even good nonsense.
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Post by gadreel on Feb 25, 2018 18:57:22 GMT
I'm not. I'm not interested in hurting anyone's feelings. Including yours, even though you've insinuated numerous times that I am an idiot, douche, etc. I'm only teasing. And I only said it because the night school thing was something someone else was getting teased about, because I joked about the idea with Goz after she had a confrontation with the aforementioned poster and because of the brutal tongue lashing she gave me earlier on your behalf (where she backed your extensive knowledge and faith). Nevertheless, pulling me into your debate with Goz and insulting my ex wife is being a douche. I do not think I have insinuated you are an idiot, you did call me out on insulting you previously and I set you straight, I would do so again if you brought me up on a percieved insult. |
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Post by gadreel on Feb 25, 2018 18:58:47 GMT
I have heard that theory, and it seems like a strange way to go about it, surely an omnipotent god would seed his ideas among the various peoples of the earth in ways that made sense to them throughout time, as opposed to once in an obscure town and then find a way to shoehorn everyone in at some point in the future. The Yi vessel thing is interesting, but also seems pretty spurious on cursory investigation. It makes a whole lot more sense to provide grace for the ignorant than it would to inspire them to believe the wrong thing. They literally say in the Bible that Jesus is a propitiatory sacrifice meaning it does indeed cover everyone across all times who wants to be covered and ho aren't specifically excluded. This doesn't mean that they get to stay ignorant, only that they are given the opportunity to become smart in contrast to the wicked. But and Omnipotent God would be able to inspire all over the world. It's the wants to be covered thing, how can you want to be covered if you are not aware of the theology. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 18:59:18 GMT
I'm not. I'm not interested in hurting anyone's feelings. Including yours, even though you've insinuated numerous times that I am an idiot, douche, etc. I'm only teasing. And I only said it because the night school thing was something someone else was getting teased about, because I joked about the idea with Goz after she had a confrontation with the aforementioned poster and because of the brutal tongue lashing she gave me earlier on your behalf (where she backed your extensive knowledge and faith). Nevertheless, pulling me into your debate with Goz and insulting my ex wife is being a douche. I do not think I have insinuated you are an idiot, you did call me out on insulting you previously and I set you straight, I would do so again if you brought me up on a percieved insult. Ha, you mean like calling me a douche? By the way, gadreel, still waiting for an answer on this question: do you believe the Gospel is 100% truth? |
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