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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 20, 2018 11:26:45 GMT
Because it doesn't. I'm not a fundy of course, but I would be hard pressed to see what fundies have actually done that could be considered a success until that idiot Trump was elected. Abortion legal, gay marriage is legal, wedding cakes must be baked for all, boinking is readily available and encouraged, porn is rampant, weed is legal, gambling, liquor, & an atheist based education system. You are even allowed to hate religious people! You name it, we got it!  It's the hedonist dream in the US so clearly you aren't here and yet you're in here whining about what your white ancestors did to black people. It's sounds like you want the same control though, but from a different side of the fence. Once again, this just verifies you have no skill in reading people. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 20, 2018 11:31:47 GMT
Because it doesn't. I'm not a fundy of course, but I would be hard pressed to see what fundies have actually done that could be considered a success until that idiot Trump was elected. Abortion legal, gay marriage is legal, wedding cakes must be baked for all, boinking is readily available and encouraged, porn is rampant, weed is legal, gambling, liquor, & an atheist based education system. You are even allowed to hate religious people! You name it, we got it! It's the hedonist dream in the US so clearly you aren't here and yet you're in here whining about what your white ancestors did to black people. I hear you, butt the problem is that they keep such stuff on the 'agenda'...ie abortion, closing down Family First, lack of gun control ( the ultimate irony one would think ) and all those things you said. I know you disapprove from your religious perspective, butt it really is a matter of freedom of choice v. Christian based dogma being applied to all in a plural secular society. Sir, I will have you know that apart from being royal on one side of my family, on the other side my ancestors were religious Methodist 'Protectors of the Blacks' in Australia and whilst they did a bloody awful job of it...they tried. The agenda is kept open because it's a democracy and people have a right to disagree with each other. A person who gets everything they could possibly want and still whines about it has way too much time on their hands and especially when they live in a country with some big problems of their own. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Feb 20, 2018 11:39:48 GMT
The vast majority of scientists are truthful and good at what they do so we can trust what they say Does that include auto mechanics? |
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Post by captainbryce on Feb 20, 2018 11:46:37 GMT
People become or claim to become Christians for quite a large variety of reasons, much like in other religions or organizations. For some it's because they don't know what else to do with themselves on weekends. For others it's because of divine revelation, real or perceived. There are lots of reasons between. For some it's because they like someone who belongs to some group. For others it's because they don't like someone who doesn't belong. For many it's because they think most people want (or "society" wants) them to go to join some group. Surprising few people of whatever color know anything about their choices beyond that. You forgot the most likely reason for most; because it’s the belief system they grew up in, and was indoctrinated into. Religion, like surname, is often passed down generationally. I have no doubt that most black Christians in America didn’t “become” Christian. They started out that way, and never strayed away. |
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Post by captainbryce on Feb 20, 2018 11:53:30 GMT
The vast majority of scientists are truthful and good at what they do so we can trust what they say Does that include auto mechanics? Since when are auto-mechanics “scientists”? |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 20, 2018 14:00:53 GMT
It's sounds like you want the same control though, but from a different side of the fence. Once again, this just verifies you have no skill in reading people. Meaning what? I have only put into perspective what you have conveyed about Christianity. |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Feb 20, 2018 14:45:49 GMT
This would be better phrased as to why some black people are Christians, since around the world it is not the case that they always are. Or, 'why are so many Black Americans Christian', (at least in the 'old time religion' sense), since it is the case that in America at least there is a greater percentage of black folk than white who follow traditional Christianity. |
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Post by deembastille on Feb 20, 2018 15:14:04 GMT
This would be better phrased as to why some black people are Christians, since around the world it is not the case that they always are. Or, 'why are so many Black Americans Christian', (at least in the 'old time religion' sense), since it is the case that in America at least there is a greater percentage of black folk than white who follow traditional Christianity. traditional Christianity? most Christian religions are 'made up as they go along'! |
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Post by kls on Feb 20, 2018 15:16:47 GMT
This would be better phrased as to why some black people are Christians, since around the world it is not the case that they always are. Or, 'why are so many Black Americans Christian', (at least in the 'old time religion' sense), since it is the case that in America at least there is a greater percentage of black folk than white who follow traditional Christianity. traditional Christianity? most Christian religions are 'made up as they go along'! Why do you think that? |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 20, 2018 15:19:08 GMT
Once again, this just verifies you have no skill in reading people. Meaning what? I have only put into perspective what you have conveyed about Christianity. Which has nothing to do with my political views or my concern for what other people do. |
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 20, 2018 15:28:33 GMT
tpfkar ...Am I the only one who's gonna make fun of her afro and clothes from 1968?....   I mean.. HOW DARE ANYBODY MAKE FUN OF HER AFRO AND CLOTHES FROM 1968!!!  So tame. 
I took a boat from Africa. Your granddad says "Hi". |
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Post by deembastille on Feb 20, 2018 15:46:28 GMT
traditional Christianity? most Christian religions are 'made up as they go along'! Why do you think that? cause I've seen it. from Lutherans to Baptists. |
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Post by kls on Feb 20, 2018 15:49:04 GMT
cause I've seen it. from Lutherans to Baptists. Care to give examples? |
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Post by deembastille on Feb 20, 2018 15:51:14 GMT
cause I've seen it. from Lutherans to Baptists. Care to give examples? Baptists tend to be deeply religious. but are okay with and proudly accept pre marital sex and teenage pregnancies in their families. in fact, some get upset if they are 35 years old and ARE NOT GRANDPARENTS! |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 20, 2018 16:00:00 GMT
Baptists tend to be deeply religious. but are okay with and proudly accept pre marital sex and teenage pregnancies in their families. in fact, some get upset if they are 35 years old and ARE NOT GRANDPARENTS! This is an error in assumption by ignoring the obvious fact that any Christian denomination tends forgive sin or deal with it in a manner that allows a person to repent and for a family to adjust. They certainly aren't in the habit of tossing an innocent child to the side on the basis on the behaviours of the parent. So it has nothing to do with being OK as much as it has to do with people not understanding things they are adamant they understand. like forgiveness or continuing to have the nerve to love your family, or dealing with what live throws at you. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 16:18:05 GMT
Okay....congratulations on your semantic victory. I’m just pointing out facts. It’s not a competition; thus there is no “victory”. I didn’t ask about “Africans”. I asked about black Americans. What they do in Africa is of little concern to me in the United States. First of all, no you didn't. Your thread title says jack about Americans. Second of all, you should care "what they do in Africa," even if you are specifically talking about African Americans. They brought their culture and their beliefs with them, which would have included Christianity. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 16:19:38 GMT
i never believed jesus was blonde with blue eyes. i just can't see jesus with an afro. and fyi he was born jewish so there's that. According to anthropologists, the historical Jesus most likely resembled something more similar to this image.  I don't know any Christians who don't know this already. |
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Post by deembastille on Feb 20, 2018 16:21:48 GMT
Baptists tend to be deeply religious. but are okay with and proudly accept pre marital sex and teenage pregnancies in their families. in fact, some get upset if they are 35 years old and ARE NOT GRANDPARENTS! This is an error in assumption by ignoring the obvious fact that any Christian denomination tends forgive sin or deal with it in a manner that allows a person to repent and for a family to adjust. They certainly aren't in the habit of tossing an innocent child to the side on the basis on the behaviours of the parent. So it has nothing to do with being OK as much as it has to do with people not understanding things they are adamant they understand. like forgiveness or continuing to have the nerve to love your family, or dealing with what live throws at you. life doesn't throw a 14 year old into a bed with some douchebag. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 20, 2018 16:29:23 GMT
Just because Jesus was Jewish does not mean he would be ugly.
That drawing makes him look like had too much miracle wine.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 20, 2018 16:30:42 GMT
This is an error in assumption by ignoring the obvious fact that any Christian denomination tends forgive sin or deal with it in a manner that allows a person to repent and for a family to adjust. They certainly aren't in the habit of tossing an innocent child to the side on the basis on the behaviours of the parent. So it has nothing to do with being OK as much as it has to do with people not understanding things they are adamant they understand. like forgiveness or continuing to have the nerve to love your family, or dealing with what live throws at you. life doesn't throw a 14 year old into a bed with some douchebag. You don't think teenagers make bad decisions and then rely on the support of their family? You had a very sheltered life or a very sucky life or both. |
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