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Post by Jillian on Mar 18, 2017 8:34:53 GMT
Yes, but trying to respect and listen to other opinions is important, because in doing so one can try to understand their motives and that can teach you a valuable lesson for future reference. Well, having faith in something even though you cannot comprehend it is important as well in my opinion, because that leads to critical thinking and dialogue, which in turn broadens the mind and may lead to an positive outcome for all involved. Blindly believing in something is never good, I agree with you there and bringing violence into it all is certainly not tolerable. Id agree with that. Good. That is settled then . How would you say having faith in something you cant comprehend leads to critical thinking? Having faith in something ends critical thinking in my opinion. Maybe I don't really understand what you mean by "having faith in something even though you cannot comprehend". I take that as essentially blindly believing, which you go on to say isnt good. Well, why don´t you explain what you mean and then I will add my two cents. Having faith in what? Specifically what is it that we are referring to in this case?
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Post by puvo on Mar 18, 2017 8:46:02 GMT
Id agree with that. Good. That is settled then . How would you say having faith in something you cant comprehend leads to critical thinking? Having faith in something ends critical thinking in my opinion. Maybe I don't really understand what you mean by "having faith in something even though you cannot comprehend". I take that as essentially blindly believing, which you go on to say isnt good. Well, why don´t you explain what you mean and then I will add my two cents. Having faith in what? Specifically what is it that we are referring to in this case? Well, we were talking about a being we supposedly can't comprehend, that i'd assume you would say created us. More specifically, created us this way, unable to comprehend it. I asked why he would do this and you answered you didn't know, and that some things don't follow logic and need to be taken on faith in a common good. That sounds like the kind of faith that is blindly believing in something to me (especially as you removed logic from the issue), and I wouldn't call it "important", or say it leads to critical thinking. So yeah, what do you mean by having faith in something you don't comprehend, why is it important, and how does it lead to critical thinking. Critical thinking is more continuing to think about it, and investigate it until you comprehend it better, whereas having faith is the end of inquiry.
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Post by Jillian on Mar 18, 2017 9:10:37 GMT
Well, why don´t you explain what you mean and then I will add my two cents. Having faith in what? Specifically what is it that we are referring to in this case? Well, we were talking about a being we supposedly can't comprehend, that i'd assume you would say created us. More specifically, created us this way, unable to comprehend it. I asked why he would do this and you answered you didn't know, and that some things don't follow logic and need to be taken on faith in a common good. That sounds like the kind of faith that is blindly believing in something to me (especially as you removed logic from the issue), and I wouldn't call it "important", or say it leads to critical thinking. So yeah, what do you mean by having faith in something you don't comprehend, why is it important, and how does it lead to critical thinking. Critical thinking is more continuing to think about it, and investigate it until you comprehend it better, whereas having faith is the end of inquiry. Ok, I see, thanks for the summary . Yes, we are talking about the unknown, the thing which created us in the way we are. Well, for starters, I would say that my faith is quite complicated. I do not think that one needs a bible or a church in the day to day life to have a strong faith in love and in the common good. I believe that they can serve as a certain guidance and frame, but I think that a person needs to update certain moral standards by using common sense and not blindly read certain sentences from a bible, hence blindly believing in something religious and thus acting weirdly in the name of some religion. I do not necessarily think that it is a God that created us completely per se, but that being said, I still believe in things we cannot understand, a driving, powerful, meaningful divine force, which requires a strong faith and a strong will to try to maintain a high moral, kindness and openness to all people, beings and surroundings. So, a strong faith that does not end inquiry, but one that strives for the human being to be good, always remembering critical thinking, intuition, openness, kindness and wisdom. God for me is being able to love, being able to be kind, being able to have respect towards others, being wise, living by the principle that violence is never the answer and that together one is stronger.
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Post by puvo on Mar 18, 2017 10:46:24 GMT
Well, we were talking about a being we supposedly can't comprehend, that i'd assume you would say created us. More specifically, created us this way, unable to comprehend it. I asked why he would do this and you answered you didn't know, and that some things don't follow logic and need to be taken on faith in a common good. That sounds like the kind of faith that is blindly believing in something to me (especially as you removed logic from the issue), and I wouldn't call it "important", or say it leads to critical thinking. So yeah, what do you mean by having faith in something you don't comprehend, why is it important, and how does it lead to critical thinking. Critical thinking is more continuing to think about it, and investigate it until you comprehend it better, whereas having faith is the end of inquiry. Ok, I see, thanks for the summary . Yes, we are talking about the unknown, the thing which created us in the way we are. Well, for starters, I would say that my faith is quite complicated. I do not think that one needs a bible or a church in the day to day life to have a strong faith in love and in the common good. I believe that they can serve as a certain guidance and frame, but I think that a person needs to update certain moral standards by using common sense and not blindly read certain sentences from a bible, hence blindly believing in something religious and thus acting weirdly in the name of some religion. I do not necessarily think that it is a God that created us completely per se, but that being said, I still believe in things we cannot understand, a driving, powerful, meaningful divine force, which requires a strong faith and a strong will to try to maintain a high moral, kindness and openness to all people, beings and surroundings. So, a strong faith that does not end inquiry, but one that strives for the human being to be good, always remembering critical thinking, intuition, openness, kindness and wisdom. Fair enough. Its not a use of the word faith that i'm familiar with, but it probably doesn't need any more delving into. No need for a belief in god for any of that. No need for faith. Just love, be kind, respect others, be wise, dont commit violence on others etc all on your own. Its pretty easy actually!
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Post by Jillian on Mar 18, 2017 10:52:23 GMT
Right, it should be easy without all the over the top things that come with religion. I think we are on the same page. Edit, although having faith (in general, if nothing else) is important, I still stand by that opinion.
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