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Post by Agent of Chaos on Feb 23, 2018 2:23:58 GMT
They wouldn’t even let anyone near Wakanda. Thor wouldn’t care about Jane Foster becoming a second-class citzen or killed? His relationship with Jane is public knowledge too. Its thing that they are friends with Wanda who can read minds and find out who sided with Killmonger. So you think they can stop a bunch of transports and jets coming through? Nah, they getting in. What can he do about that? He'd just take her to Asgard. Whoops. Asgard was gone by then, huh? And if she was dead? Same thing. Would he kill everyone on Earth? Friends with Wanda? You mean the same Wanda they locked up in the Raft? Not thinking this through. At that point in time they are war criminals. Yes they can, considering they have spears that can blow up tanks and aircrafts. If she died he would have definitely rage war on Wakanda. They were the ones that locked her in the Raft? You’re confusing T’Challa with Tony. T’Challa helped Bucky and Wanda was on Cap’s side, remember? Why would they be war criminals? You act like they can’t anonymously give information.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Feb 23, 2018 2:39:49 GMT
I didn't give a shit about Killmonger, Helmut Zemo was more sympathetic.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2018 3:15:59 GMT
Magneto went through the ACTUAL Holocaust. Yeah, cheap and lazy writing for a character to build up sympathy. Magneto is one of the greatest villains of all time. Nobody knew about Killmonger until a week ago. But I understand that you need to be a good slave to your corporate master.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 23, 2018 3:39:10 GMT
Yeah, cheap and lazy writing for a character to build up sympathy. Magneto is The product of cheap, lazy Holocaust Exploitation.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 23, 2018 3:44:34 GMT
The product of cheap, lazy Holocaust Exploitation. Who would you like to see play him in the MCU, and would you have them omit that aspect of his backstory or just not focus on it in the same way (I'm told) Homecoming doesn't cover Peter's origin story?
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Post by summers8 on Feb 23, 2018 5:33:12 GMT
I believe Michael B Jordan for saying he was inspired by Magneto but Disney was inspired by Loki in the end.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 23, 2018 10:33:40 GMT
I believe Michael B Jordan for saying he was inspired by Magneto but Disney was inspired by Loki in the end. I honestly don't remember seeing any Loki in him.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 23, 2018 13:49:03 GMT
So you think they can stop a bunch of transports and jets coming through? Nah, they getting in. What can he do about that? He'd just take her to Asgard. Whoops. Asgard was gone by then, huh? And if she was dead? Same thing. Would he kill everyone on Earth? Friends with Wanda? You mean the same Wanda they locked up in the Raft? Not thinking this through. At that point in time they are war criminals. Yes they can, considering they have spears that can blow up tanks and aircrafts. If she died he would have definitely rage war on Wakanda. They were the ones that locked her in the Raft? You’re confusing T’Challa with Tony. T’Challa helped Bucky and Wanda was on Cap’s side, remember? Why would they be war criminals? You act like they can’t anonymously give information. But they wouldn't know they were there until it was too late. So yeah, they are getting in. So he'd kill an entire race of people because they killed a woman he was no longer with anyway... Yeah, I don't think that would go well that Thor killed all black people on Earth. Why would T'Challa need Wanda to find out anything?
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 23, 2018 13:50:42 GMT
I believe Michael B Jordan for saying he was inspired by Magneto but Disney was inspired by Loki in the end. I honestly don't remember seeing any Loki in him. He doesn't want the MCU to be associated with the X-men movies in any way.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 23, 2018 14:00:18 GMT
The product of cheap, lazy Holocaust Exploitation. Who would you like to see play him in the MCU, and would you have them omit that aspect of his backstory or just not focus on it in the same way (I'm told) Homecoming doesn't cover Peter's origin story? For me, I think Jason Isaacs would be good. I think they should make a fictional genocidal occupation made by a Marvel evil group, but not make that be the reason he becomes Magneto, just the seed. Go the comics route and make his family being killed by racists the main reason.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 23, 2018 15:03:42 GMT
Who would you like to see play him in the MCU, and would you have them omit that aspect of his backstory or just not focus on it in the same way (I'm told) Homecoming doesn't cover Peter's origin story? For me, I think Jason Isaacs would be good. I think they should make a fictional genocidal occupation made by a Marvel evil group, but not make that be the reason he becomes Magneto, just the seed. Go the comics route and make his family being killed by racists the main reason. Hydra?
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Feb 23, 2018 19:54:05 GMT
Yes they can, considering they have spears that can blow up tanks and aircrafts. If she died he would have definitely rage war on Wakanda. They were the ones that locked her in the Raft? You’re confusing T’Challa with Tony. T’Challa helped Bucky and Wanda was on Cap’s side, remember? Why would they be war criminals? You act like they can’t anonymously give information. But they wouldn't know they were there until it was too late. So yeah, they are getting in. So he'd kill an entire race of people because they killed a woman he was no longer with anyway... Yeah, I don't think that would go well that Thor killed all black people on Earth. Why would T'Challa need Wanda to find out anything? They have spies in every government around the world don’t they? I said Wakanda. Last time I check not every black person was Wakandan. To found out which Wakandan spies are on his side.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 24, 2018 0:33:17 GMT
For me, I think Jason Isaacs would be good. I think they should make a fictional genocidal occupation made by a Marvel evil group, but not make that be the reason he becomes Magneto, just the seed. Go the comics route and make his family being killed by racists the main reason. Hydra? I don't think they are the type to hold a country like that. After the war they went underground and worked the system. I mean a type of group that would take over a country and kill people in line-ups just because.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 24, 2018 0:36:55 GMT
I don't think they are the type to hold a country like that. After the war they went underground and worked the system. I mean a type of group that would take over a country and kill people in line-ups just because. You mean like the Girl Scouts during cookie season?
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 24, 2018 0:40:21 GMT
But they wouldn't know they were there until it was too late. So yeah, they are getting in. So he'd kill an entire race of people because they killed a woman he was no longer with anyway... Yeah, I don't think that would go well that Thor killed all black people on Earth. Why would T'Challa need Wanda to find out anything? They have spies in every government around the world don’t they? I said Wakanda. Last time I check not every black person was Wakandan. To found out which Wakandan spies are on his side. Having spies in every government doesn't mean they are in every part of the government. But they are all over the world. Not just in Wakanda. Is Thor gonna pull down lips (something he doesn't know about) on every black person he sees before beating them up? Don't think her powers are that powerful that she can read minds all over the world.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Feb 24, 2018 1:48:33 GMT
They have spies in every government around the world don’t they? I said Wakanda. Last time I check not every black person was Wakandan. To found out which Wakandan spies are on his side. Having spies in every government doesn't mean they are in every part of the government. But they are all over the world. Not just in Wakanda. Is Thor gonna pull down lips (something he doesn't know about) on every black person he sees before beating them up? Don't think her powers are that powerful that she can read minds all over the world. They are meant to spie on this type of stuff. Only a few spies are around the world. Most of them live in Wakanda. No, but she can get help with locating them with the Wakandans that side with T’Challa.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 24, 2018 2:29:47 GMT
Having spies in every government doesn't mean they are in every part of the government. But they are all over the world. Not just in Wakanda. Is Thor gonna pull down lips (something he doesn't know about) on every black person he sees before beating them up? Don't think her powers are that powerful that she can read minds all over the world. They are meant to spie on this type of stuff. Only a few spies are around the world. Most of them live in Wakanda. No, but she can get help with locating them with the Wakandans that side with T’Challa. Doesn't mean they can catch everything. The War Dogs are all over. But she'd have to be kinda close to them in order to do so. They will also see her using her powers on them.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Feb 25, 2018 0:40:59 GMT
They are meant to spie on this type of stuff. Only a few spies are around the world. Most of them live in Wakanda. No, but she can get help with locating them with the Wakandans that side with T’Challa. Doesn't mean they can catch everything. The War Dogs are all over. But she'd have to be kinda close to them in order to do so. They will also see her using her powers on them. And it’s not like everyone would invade Wakanda. They won’t be able to see her use her powers. Wanda read Vision’s mind just by touching them.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jun 2, 2018 23:58:35 GMT
He didn't show any real remorse over Rogue, he even made a joke later over her hair. He didn't think twice about killing Mystique either. Killmonger killed ONE person who was loyal to him but that was it. Erik’s girlfriend was collateral damage in a war against the “oppressors.” His attitude is consistent with his world view and professional training. In the film when his dead father asks if he has any feelings about his passing, he glibly responds “everyone dies “. Killmonger was a psychopath.This. I'd say that is the big major difference between Magneto and Killmonger. Magneto can be reasonable to a certain extent. But Killmonger? He's a radically charged psychopath that is blood thirsty and only cares about achieving his goal of committing genocide against those he deems the "oppressors" Hell he even wanted their children dead.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jun 3, 2018 0:15:13 GMT
The Avengers are split up and even if they showed up, killmonger would have started his attack before they could reach him. You seriously think Thor, his army of Asgardians, and Hulk couldn’t easily take down Wakanda? They weren't on Earth at the time. If T'challa and the others didn't stop him, the war dogs would have successfully launched a surprised attack. Millions would have been killed and when Thor and Hulk returned back to earth the damaged is done.
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