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Post by Richard Kimble on Feb 27, 2018 7:52:17 GMT
I would not call it horrible, but it is certainly idiosyncratic. I only posted the link as a catalyst for discussion and that seems to be working. The value of lists is to suggest interesting titles to us non-experts, and to generated discussion throwing up further titles, and that has worked for me here. I didn't mean anything toward you personally. If I came off as rude, I apologize. But that's a horrible list. I wish you'd used some other starting point. I'd love a discussion of the best WWII movies. Just a week or two ago I saw The Four Days Of Naples (1962) for the first time, and it's already one of my favorites. |
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Post by london777 on Feb 27, 2018 14:45:23 GMT
Feb 26, 2018 16:03:15 GMT -4 london777 said:
The value of lists is to ... generate discussion throwing up further titlesFeb 27, 2018 3:52:17 GMT -4 Richard Kimble said: Just a week or two ago I saw The Four Days Of Naples (1962) for the first time, and it's already one of my favorites. There you go. Exactly what I meant. Never heard of that one but will look out for it now. Thanks.
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Post by vegalyra on Feb 27, 2018 18:43:51 GMT
Lots of great WW2 films out there. I've always enjoyed the ones made during the war years, they were completely unambiguous flag wavers for the most part. Sometimes I need that.
The ones made in the 1960's particularly were great too though even with the typical anti-war message. Play Dirty fits that quite well. Bridge at Remagen is another one.
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Post by manfromplanetx on Feb 27, 2018 21:44:46 GMT
Hi there london777 I would also have on my fav WW2 films, In Which We Serve and The Universal Soldier, I am not a big fan of action war movies but I do like the philosophical and true stories of escape and heroism. A few WW2 films that you may find of interest... Az ötödik pecsét, The Fifth Seal (1976) Hungary Zoltán Fábri . Set in occupied Budapest in 1944 towards the end of the Second World War, the profound tales tells of a group of friends, a watchmaker, a book seller, a carpenter, and a barkeeper Béla'. They hang out in the dim light of Béla's establishment, drinking, smoking and telling tales. One day a fifth man joins their table and unbeknownst to them all, an innocent hypothetical question is raised it will change their lives forever... A deeply compelling film raising philosophical and ethical human choices under the extreme testing situation of occupation. It is a film that makes us ponder about ourselves and univesally on humanity as a whole. A zori zdes tikhie, The Dawns Here Are Quiet (1972) Soviet Union, Stanislav Rostotskiy Based on a true story...The film is set in Karelia (North-West of Russia, near Finland) in 1941 during WWII. Atunci i-am condamnat pe toti la moarte , Then I Sentenced Them All to Death (1972) Romania, Sergiu Nicolaescu During World War II, just before the events of August 23rd 1944, a German soldier is found murdered in a Romanian village. The dead soldier's superior threatens the villagers that unless the perpetrator is handed over by the following morning... Nikudan , The Human Bullet (1968) Japan, Kihachi Okamoto . During World War II, a Japanese soldier finds himself assigned to a kamikaze unit on a mission against the U.S. battleships. A brilliant dark anti war satire Okamoto himself was called up in the last days of the war, his experience is reflected in the story. He independently created this wonderful film through The Art Theatre Guild production company. . |
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Post by london777 on Feb 27, 2018 22:46:00 GMT
I knew you would come up trumps, manfromplanetx  |
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Post by mikef6 on Mar 2, 2018 21:13:46 GMT
I give the list some points for at least one thing. Most of these click-bait “Best This Kind Of Movie/Performance EVER” will have upwards from 50% to around 70% of the titles coming from the 1990s to the present day, ignoring about the first 100 years of the “Ever.” This list has only about 20% from these three decades. 40% were made in the 1940s and ‘50s, the best decades for WWII films. I like it for that.
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Post by glenesq on Mar 2, 2018 21:57:53 GMT
Not a bad list of 50 films, some really great ones on there.
My list of 50 WWII films would also include:
Sophie Scholl: The Final Days (2005) - I was gobsmacked by this powerful film, the true story of idealistic German university students in WWII who form an anti-Nazi resistance movement. On the one hand their courage is awe-inspiring, on the other hand their treatment and trial at the hands of the Nazis is a true life horror story. What a compelling film.
The Human Condition (I, II, III) - Shot between 1959 and 1961, the story centres around one soldier (Tatsuya Nakadai) trying to rise above the corruption and brutality of the Japanese occupation of Manchuria.
... not in my top 50 but as a curiosity for Canadians, Corvette K-225, a Hollywood 1943 film about the Canadian Navy in WWII. Randolph Scott and a very young Ella Raines (in her first movie) are the romantic leads. The crew of the corvette are full of Hollywood stalwarts such as Barry Fitzgerald, Andy Devine, and Noah Beery. And if you don't blink there's a small role for Robert Mitchum, 1943 was his first year in Hollywood. Nominated for best B&W cinematography.
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Post by london777 on Mar 2, 2018 22:29:26 GMT
Another one of which I had never heard but will now look out for. That is the value of these threads even if the original list is mediocre. It is just a catalyst. Thanks, outrider. |
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Post by manfromplanetx on Mar 2, 2018 22:53:42 GMT
Many wonderful little known films outperform some of those big budget epics, never making such lists... Shetlandsgjengen , The Shetland Gang (1954) is an exciting WW2 true story, A Norwegian UK co-production, the on sea filming is absolutely amazing. Shetland Bus was the nickname of a clandestine special operations group that made a permanent link between Shetland, Scotland, and German-occupied Norway from 1941 until the Occupation of Norway by Nazi Germany ended on 8 May 1945. The film is closely based on real events, and many of the members of the gang, including the leader, called "Shetlands-Larsen" play themselves. Starring Leif Larsen who was perhaps the most famous of the Shetland Bus men. In all he survived 52 trips , Larsen became the most highly decorated Allied naval officer of the Second World War. many of the crews and passengers were never seen again The unit was operated initially by a large number of small fishing boats, crossings were mostly made during the winter under the cover of darkness. This meant that the crews and passengers had to endure very heavy and treacherous North Sea conditions, with no lights, and constant risk of discovery by German aircraft or patrol boats...  Blekitny krzyz , Men of the Blue Cross (1955) from Polish director Andrzej Munk , likewise uses real characters from actual true accounts of the bravery from the mountain rescue unit. A spectacular rugged snow-scape is the setting for this exciting rescue adventure. In February 1945, a Polish rescue team sets out to bring back wounded Soviet and Slovak partisans who are trapped behind the mountain border as well as behind enemy lines.  Ni liv , Nine Lives (1957) is another excellent true story from Norway, filmed in a stunning icy landscape The exciting WW2 drama adventure is a biopic based on the daring escape made by Norwegian resistance fighter Jan Baalsrud. Having escaped a commando raid on a German position, he flees into the icy wilderness. Baalsrud encounters everything from, frostbite, snow-blindness, he dodges heavily armed German troops in blizzard conditions on his way to the freedom of neutral Sweden...  |
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