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Post by judgejosephdredd on Mar 1, 2018 17:24:01 GMT
In all fairness to Kristen Wiig, when Heath Ledger was announced as the Joker not a lot of people were excited or happy about that casting choice. Infact there were a lot of pissed off fanboys. And look at how that turned out. Ledger performance is now considered to be the best or one of the best joker's. I don't know if wiig will make a good cheetah or not, but I say let's give her a shot, yes? I never had a problem with the Heath Ledger casting because he had already proven he could be a good, serious actor. Casting Kristen Wiig as Cheetah is on a whole different level. Every time she speaks, people will be waiting for the joke. Maybe that's WB's idea? Anything is possible at this point. Maybe they want WW2 to be like Ragnarok or something?!!?  Ledger had proven himself to be a good and serious actor, but a lot of people( mostly fanboys) thought of him as only a heartthrob who dated lots of hot women and was just "there" in a lot of movies. It's a very different story nowadays. When people bring up the Ledger-Joker situation they are not really comparing acting talent but rather more on the concept of a questionable casting decision turning out to be the best one. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 19:06:38 GMT
Cheetah acting pissed in a clip from the super serious and dramatic, The Skeleton Twins - ................. .just sayin'. Congratulations. You found a clip from the movie where her character isn’t trying to commit suicide, or coming clean to her husband about her infidelity. You do know that not every drama has to be exclusively dramatic, right? Dude, forget the singing and dancing. Cheetah is supposed to be pissed at the start of the scene. Did you believe it? I know I didn't.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 19:11:31 GMT
I never had a problem with the Heath Ledger casting because he had already proven he could be a good, serious actor. Casting Kristen Wiig as Cheetah is on a whole different level. Every time she speaks, people will be waiting for the joke. Maybe that's WB's idea? Anything is possible at this point. Maybe they want WW2 to be like Ragnarok or something?!!? Ledger had proven himself to be a good and serious actor, but a lot of people( mostly fanboys) thought of him as only a heartthrob who dated lots of hot women and was just "there" in a lot of movies. It's a very different story nowadays. When people bring up the Ledger-Joker situation they are not really comparing acting talent but rather more on the concept of a questionable casting decision turning out to be the best one. If that is the case then it is a poor choice of example. Why not just say - "Not all questionable acting choices turn out to be bad." ?  |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 1, 2018 21:06:35 GMT
Congratulations. You found a clip from the movie where her character isn’t trying to commit suicide, or coming clean to her husband about her infidelity. You do know that not every drama has to be exclusively dramatic, right? Dude, forget the singing and dancing. Cheetah is supposed to be pissed at the start of the scene. Did you believe it? I know I didn't. I bought that she was irritated and frustrated. She didn’t need to be in a murderous rage for that scene. |
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Mar 1, 2018 23:32:05 GMT
Ledger had proven himself to be a good and serious actor, but a lot of people( mostly fanboys) thought of him as only a heartthrob who dated lots of hot women and was just "there" in a lot of movies. It's a very different story nowadays. When people bring up the Ledger-Joker situation they are not really comparing acting talent but rather more on the concept of a questionable casting decision turning out to be the best one. If that is the case then it is a poor choice of example. Why not just say - "Not all questionable acting choices turn out to be bad." ? Because in a discussion it is often a good rule of thumb to give an example than say something as basic as that. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 1, 2018 23:42:23 GMT
Ledger had proven himself to be a good and serious actor, but a lot of people( mostly fanboys) thought of him as only a heartthrob who dated lots of hot women and was just "there" in a lot of movies. It's a very different story nowadays. When people bring up the Ledger-Joker situation they are not really comparing acting talent but rather more on the concept of a questionable casting decision turning out to be the best one. If that is the case then it is a poor choice of example. Why not just say - "Not all questionable acting choices turn out to be bad." ? Why? It's a valid point. When they announced Heath Ledger as the Joker for The Dark Knight it was met with more hate and skepticism than praise and support. Not to mention the large amount of homophobia that came with it (all because of Broke Back Mountain). |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 23:51:13 GMT
If that is the case then it is a poor choice of example. Why not just say - "Not all questionable acting choices turn out to be bad." ? Why? It's a valid point. When they announced Heath Ledger as the Joker for The Dark Knight it was met with more hate and skepticism than praise and support. Not to mention the large amount of homophobia that came with it (all because of Broke Back Mountain). It's a poor choice of example if you buy into judgejosephdredd's explanation. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 1, 2018 23:59:21 GMT
Why? It's a valid point. When they announced Heath Ledger as the Joker for The Dark Knight it was met with more hate and skepticism than praise and support. Not to mention the large amount of homophobia that came with it (all because of Broke Back Mountain). It's a poor choice of example if you buy into judgejosephdredd's explanation. Just because someone is a proven actor, doesn't mean that he/she will be good for the role. Jared Leto is a proven actor who had fans excited when it was announced that he's playing joker. His joker ended up sucking. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 0:02:47 GMT
It's a poor choice of example if you buy into judgejosephdredd's explanation. Just because someone is a proven actor, doesn't mean that he/she will be good for the role. Jared Leto is a proven actor who had fans excited when it was announced that he's playing joker. His joker ended up sucking. I agree. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 2, 2018 8:52:20 GMT
I never had a problem with the Heath Ledger casting because he had already proven he could be a good, serious actor. Casting Kristen Wiig as Cheetah is on a whole different level. Every time she speaks, people will be waiting for the joke. Maybe that's WB's idea? Anything is possible at this point. Maybe they want WW2 to be like Ragnarok or something?!!? Ledger had proven himself to be a good and serious actor, but a lot of people( mostly fanboys) thought of him as only a heartthrob who dated lots of hot women and was just "there" in a lot of movies. It's a very different story nowadays. It's more that they thought of him as "that gay cowboy". But for every Heath Ledger, there's two Jesse Eisenberg and Topher Grace's. I'll hold off judgement until I see anything, but Wiig wouldnt be my 1st, 2nd, or even 20th pick for Cheetah. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Mar 2, 2018 11:53:40 GMT
If that is the case then it is a poor choice of example. Why not just say - "Not all questionable acting choices turn out to be bad." ? Because in a discussion it is often a good rule of thumb to give an example than say something as basic as that. If you are ok with a funny lady that can do drama like Wig you should support Kat Dennings for Cheetah. Not fair how you support one but not the other |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Mar 2, 2018 15:03:27 GMT
Because in a discussion it is often a good rule of thumb to give an example than say something as basic as that. If you are ok with a funny lady that can do drama like Wig you should support Kat Dennings for Cheetah. Not fair how you support one but not the other Yeah, life's not fair. Personal opinions don't have to be fair. |
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Mar 2, 2018 20:47:51 GMT
Because in a discussion it is often a good rule of thumb to give an example than say something as basic as that. If you are ok with a funny lady that can do drama like Wig you should support Kat Dennings for Cheetah. Not fair how you support one but not the other Well of the two I can buy Wiig playing a scientist type more than I can with Dennings, as she has played characters with professions who are in that type of ballpark in the past whereas Dennings was only playing an intern in the Thor movies where astrophysics was not even part of her educational interests initially. And sorry to beak it to you but scientists generally don't look like supermodels who are gonna be on covers for playboy or maxim, which is why Denise Richards playing a nuclear physicist is viewed by many to be one of the most outlandish things in the James Bond franchise even in the movie she was in( The World is Not Enough). |
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