Post by mslo79 on Mar 3, 2018 11:58:22 GMT
I don't really have any concrete answer, so I did not vote, but I would say in terms of a 'smart phone' not until AT LEAST 14+ (but maybe even 15-16) as I pretty much consider those 13-ish and younger as kids as by 15 your at least not a kid anymore. but in terms of a basic phone for contact I may go younger purely for safety reasons.
but giving them their own cell phone too young and they are likely to get into trouble with it online and not only that they will likely get addicted to it like damn near every other kid does nowadays where they can't get off of it for a few seconds because they are obsessed with attention on sites like Facebook/Twitter etc and kids do stupid crap at times and with this constant contact online people bully others and when your younger it's harder to blow this off vs when you get a bit older.
but I do also like the 'not until they are adults or can afford it types of answers' as I don't want one of those zombie's who walks around with it not paying attention where they are going and can't get off of it especially when they are out in public. hell, those who drive and text are just flat out stupid as you can't watch a screen and type on a keyboard while driving simply because that takes up WAY to much of your attention (i.e. your not paying attention to the road to a high enough degree where safety plummets). I think talking on a cell phone while driving is bad enough, but texting is just flat out stupid while driving.
basically it would be really rough being a parent nowadays because it's just that much more difficult to keep them away from the bad things online (like it almost seems inevitable, or a high chance, they will run into it as even if the parents do a good job of stopping them they will probably get into it at a friends house etc) where as before the smart phone/mainstream internet era (basically before the 2000's decade for the most part) it would have been easier where as now your kid almost seems inevitable they will be exposed to crap they should not be, and sadly, at a really young age.
also, I think one of the major problems nowadays is that the kids run the parents instead of it being the other way around like it should always be which just further fuels kids going off the rails as if you don't keep them inline when they are younger, with steady discipline etc, they are just going to be that much worse once they reach their teens. like those parents who nearly never say no to their kids are going to pay a heavy price once those kids get to be teenagers more often than not.
p.s. my sister has a couple of kids (one is four(boy) and the other is five and a half(girl)) and while it's cool now I wish her luck down the road in today's immoral world. the 5.5 year old is about a grade ahead of her age bracket in school and apparently she's one of the teachers favorite students now but it will probably be a matter of time before the other kids screw with her with that whole 'teachers pet' BS and other drama they go through as a kid. basically once the kids get a bit of age on them, then the drama begins with others starting crap because they jealous etc. someones always got to be screwed with someone else. o well, you can't protect them from everything and it almost seems inevitable that everyone is going to have to take some crap in school whether your the cool kid or not. hell, ill bet some parents don't even know or care that their kids are bullies because while being bullied on some level at times is probably inevitable they can only take that crap so far before it's out of line. it's like some kids will even further go off the rails if there home life sucks (like divorced or abusive parents etc) and probably take it out on others etc. plus, while I imagine the divorce rate is already quite high I can only imagine what it will be like in another 10-20+ years as today societies morals are pretty much gone.
deembastille
Exactly. it's clearly the other way around which is why kids are that much worse nowadays than the old days where kids had actual discipline and they generally turned out better once adults than kids do now.
but giving them their own cell phone too young and they are likely to get into trouble with it online and not only that they will likely get addicted to it like damn near every other kid does nowadays where they can't get off of it for a few seconds because they are obsessed with attention on sites like Facebook/Twitter etc and kids do stupid crap at times and with this constant contact online people bully others and when your younger it's harder to blow this off vs when you get a bit older.
but I do also like the 'not until they are adults or can afford it types of answers' as I don't want one of those zombie's who walks around with it not paying attention where they are going and can't get off of it especially when they are out in public. hell, those who drive and text are just flat out stupid as you can't watch a screen and type on a keyboard while driving simply because that takes up WAY to much of your attention (i.e. your not paying attention to the road to a high enough degree where safety plummets). I think talking on a cell phone while driving is bad enough, but texting is just flat out stupid while driving.
basically it would be really rough being a parent nowadays because it's just that much more difficult to keep them away from the bad things online (like it almost seems inevitable, or a high chance, they will run into it as even if the parents do a good job of stopping them they will probably get into it at a friends house etc) where as before the smart phone/mainstream internet era (basically before the 2000's decade for the most part) it would have been easier where as now your kid almost seems inevitable they will be exposed to crap they should not be, and sadly, at a really young age.
also, I think one of the major problems nowadays is that the kids run the parents instead of it being the other way around like it should always be which just further fuels kids going off the rails as if you don't keep them inline when they are younger, with steady discipline etc, they are just going to be that much worse once they reach their teens. like those parents who nearly never say no to their kids are going to pay a heavy price once those kids get to be teenagers more often than not.
p.s. my sister has a couple of kids (one is four(boy) and the other is five and a half(girl)) and while it's cool now I wish her luck down the road in today's immoral world. the 5.5 year old is about a grade ahead of her age bracket in school and apparently she's one of the teachers favorite students now but it will probably be a matter of time before the other kids screw with her with that whole 'teachers pet' BS and other drama they go through as a kid. basically once the kids get a bit of age on them, then the drama begins with others starting crap because they jealous etc. someones always got to be screwed with someone else. o well, you can't protect them from everything and it almost seems inevitable that everyone is going to have to take some crap in school whether your the cool kid or not. hell, ill bet some parents don't even know or care that their kids are bullies because while being bullied on some level at times is probably inevitable they can only take that crap so far before it's out of line. it's like some kids will even further go off the rails if there home life sucks (like divorced or abusive parents etc) and probably take it out on others etc. plus, while I imagine the divorce rate is already quite high I can only imagine what it will be like in another 10-20+ years as today societies morals are pretty much gone.
deembastille
On what planet? Surely not this one!
Exactly. it's clearly the other way around which is why kids are that much worse nowadays than the old days where kids had actual discipline and they generally turned out better once adults than kids do now.
