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Post by Lugh on Mar 9, 2018 8:15:44 GMT
If it's done right then there's no problem. All kids smoke weed and drink when they are teenagers. Abuse and not use us the problem. Either way it's a matter of personal freedom and the individual should decide Kids' developing brains aren't smart enough to understand how many drugs like weed negatively impact their developing brains. Hell, many adults aren't smart enough to know how to avoid killing themselves on certain drugs. In any case, saying "I believe the positive of the freedom of choice to do drugs outweighs the negatives" =/= "There's nothing wrong with kids doing drugs and drinking." Reminds me of THIS.That's why you educate. Simply educate on how much is too much and it'll be grand. If we can give children talks on STDs and educate them on the risks of sex, why not drugs and drink? |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 9, 2018 8:21:49 GMT
Kids' developing brains aren't smart enough to understand how many drugs like weed negatively impact their developing brains. Hell, many adults aren't smart enough to know how to avoid killing themselves on certain drugs. In any case, saying "I believe the positive of the freedom of choice to do drugs outweighs the negatives" =/= "There's nothing wrong with kids doing drugs and drinking." Reminds me of THIS.That's why you educate. Simply educate on how much is too much and it'll be grand. If we can give children talks on STDs and even cate them on the risks of sex, why not drugs and drink? I agree we should educate, but no amount of educating will stop weed from doing damage to adolescent brains. It isn't like sex where if done carefully there are no innately negative effects. I'm still fine with an upper-limit age limit on drugs/alcohol, while also being for the legalization of drugs in general. |
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Post by Lugh on Mar 9, 2018 8:23:40 GMT
That's why you educate. Simply educate on how much is too much and it'll be grand. If we can give children talks on STDs and even cate them on the risks of sex, why not drugs and drink? I agree we should educate, but no amount of educating will stop weed from doing damage to adolescent brains. It isn't like sex where if done carefully there are no innately negative effects. I'm still fine with an upper-limit age limit on drugs/alcohol, while also being for the legalization of drugs in general. What evidence do ye have for that? |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 9, 2018 11:21:38 GMT
I agree we should educate, but no amount of educating will stop weed from doing damage to adolescent brains. It isn't like sex where if done carefully there are no innately negative effects. I'm still fine with an upper-limit age limit on drugs/alcohol, while also being for the legalization of drugs in general. What evidence do ye have for that? There's plenty out there if you google, but here's a concise one: www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2014/02/25/282631913/marijuana-may-hurt-the-developing-teen-brain |
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Post by deembastille on Mar 9, 2018 12:11:43 GMT
The show ER had Carter come back to work far too early after the Valentine's day "massacre" (6th season). He should have been drug dependent for many months before being caught.
Again with ER... Far too many single health care providers end up getting pregnant and not planning for it. And they are loose with their bed activity. They are having unprotected relations with this one, then move on to that one... shouldn't they "know better??"?
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Post by Lugh on Mar 9, 2018 13:33:45 GMT
Ok first of all according to this article only 8 IQ points are lost so it doesn't really matter. An extra 8 IQ points won't get you very far so it doesn't really matter much. Secondly the article only talks about casual marijuana users. |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 9, 2018 14:06:50 GMT
Ok first of all according to this article only 8 IQ points are lost so it doesn't really matter. An extra 8 IQ points won't get you very far so it doesn't really matter much. Secondly the article only talks about casual marijuana users. First of all,  Second, that article pretty clearly states that the more it's used, the worse the effects. In any case, this should be enough to debunk your claim that there's "nothing wrong" with kids using drugs. Again, you may decide their freedom of choice outweighs these damaging effects of drugs and alcohol, but as per the other article I posted, it's wrong to pretend as if there are no negatives; that would just be rationalizing your values. |
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Post by kls on Mar 9, 2018 14:45:59 GMT
Science and common sense say otherwise. If it's done right then there's no problem. All kids smoke weed and drink when they are teenagers. Abuse and not use us the problem. Either way it's a matter of personal freedom and the individual should decide All do? I never tried weed even once in my life. |
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Post by Lugh on Mar 9, 2018 15:57:44 GMT
Ok first of all according to this article only 8 IQ points are lost so it doesn't really matter. An extra 8 IQ points won't get you very far so it doesn't really matter much. Secondly the article only talks about casual marijuana users. First of all, Second, that article pretty clearly states that the more it's used, the worse the effects. In any case, this should be enough to debunk your claim that there's "nothing wrong" with kids using drugs. Again, you may decide their freedom of choice outweighs these damaging effects of drugs and alcohol, but as per the other article I posted, it's wrong to pretend as if there are no negatives; that would just be rationalizing your values. To all lot of people smoking weed is worth losing a miniscule 8 IQ points. It's great craic so it is. "Second, that article pretty clearly states that the more it's used, the worse the effects." Can you quote the article were it states that? |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 9, 2018 16:15:34 GMT
First of all, Second, that article pretty clearly states that the more it's used, the worse the effects. In any case, this should be enough to debunk your claim that there's "nothing wrong" with kids using drugs. Again, you may decide their freedom of choice outweighs these damaging effects of drugs and alcohol, but as per the other article I posted, it's wrong to pretend as if there are no negatives; that would just be rationalizing your values. To all lot of people smoking weed is worth losing a miniscule 8 IQ points. It's great craic so it is. "Second, that article pretty clearly states that the more it's used, the worse the effects." Can you quote the article were it states that? If kids are smoking pot anyway and losing the IQ points, then what are you arguing? |
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Post by You_Got_A_Stew_Goin_Baby on Mar 9, 2018 17:32:12 GMT
Showgirls was good, though. |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 9, 2018 17:35:45 GMT
First of all, Second, that article pretty clearly states that the more it's used, the worse the effects. In any case, this should be enough to debunk your claim that there's "nothing wrong" with kids using drugs. Again, you may decide their freedom of choice outweighs these damaging effects of drugs and alcohol, but as per the other article I posted, it's wrong to pretend as if there are no negatives; that would just be rationalizing your values. To all lot of people smoking weed is worth losing a miniscule 8 IQ points. It's great craic so it is. "Second, that article pretty clearly states that the more it's used, the worse the effects." Can you quote the article were it states that? Yes, I'm sure to a lot of people it is, but why lose the IQ points at all when you can just wait until your 20s when your brain developments slows down and isn't as apt to be damaged by drug-use? What's the rush? Here's the quote: "The amount people smoked also made a difference. Those who smoked the most — at least every day — saw the greatest drop in IQ..." |
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Post by Lugh on Mar 9, 2018 18:01:46 GMT
To all lot of people smoking weed is worth losing a miniscule 8 IQ points. It's great craic so it is. "Second, that article pretty clearly states that the more it's used, the worse the effects." Can you quote the article were it states that? Yes, I'm sure to a lot of people it is, but why lose the IQ points at all when you can just wait until your 20s when your brain developments slows down and isn't as apt to be damaged by drug-use? What's the rush? Here's the quote: "The amount people smoked also made a difference. Those who smoked the most — at least every day — saw the greatest drop in IQ..." Nobody lives forever you know. "The amount people smoked also made a difference. Those who smoked the most — at least every day — saw the greatest drop in IQ" =/= "No matter how much you smoke weed you will have some degree of brain damage" |
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Post by phludowin on Mar 9, 2018 18:02:08 GMT
If it's done right then there's no problem. All kids smoke weed and drink when they are teenagers. Abuse and not use us the problem. Either way it's a matter of personal freedom and the individual should decide All do? I never tried weed even once in my life. Me neither. Apparently Lugh is a compulsive liar whose unpopular opinions can safely be dismissed. |
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Post by Lugh on Mar 9, 2018 18:03:36 GMT
All do? I never tried weed even once in my life. Me neither. Apparently Lugh is a compulsive liar whose unpopular opinions can safely be dismissed. Ok let me retract that. All teenagers that aren't squares do. |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 10, 2018 2:38:31 GMT
Yes, I'm sure to a lot of people it is, but why lose the IQ points at all when you can just wait until your 20s when your brain developments slows down and isn't as apt to be damaged by drug-use? What's the rush? Here's the quote: "The amount people smoked also made a difference. Those who smoked the most — at least every day — saw the greatest drop in IQ..." Nobody lives forever you know. "The amount people smoked also made a difference. Those who smoked the most — at least every day — saw the greatest drop in IQ" =/= "No matter how much you smoke weed you will have some degree of brain damage" You do realize that the original claim I responded to was: "There's nothing wrong with kids doing drugs and drinking," yes? If now you're going with "nobody lives forever" as a defense, I'll just say "there's nothing wrong with going skydiving without a parachute." I'm getting rather tired of you moving the goalposts. You ask me to show where the article says the amount matters, and now you're saying that me showing that isn't the same as showing no matter how much is smoked there's brain damage, which isn't something you asked me to show, nor something I claimed.  |
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Post by Lugh on Mar 10, 2018 8:40:53 GMT
Nobody lives forever you know. "The amount people smoked also made a difference. Those who smoked the most — at least every day — saw the greatest drop in IQ" =/= "No matter how much you smoke weed you will have some degree of brain damage" You do realize that the original claim I responded to was: "There's nothing wrong with kids doing drugs and drinking," yes? If now you're going with "nobody lives forever" as a defense, I'll just say "there's nothing wrong with going skydiving without a parachute." I'm getting rather tired of you moving the goalposts. You ask me to show where the article says the amount matters, and now you're saying that me showing that isn't the same as showing no matter how much is smoked there's brain damage, which isn't something you asked me to show, nor something I claimed. The negatives of smoking weed are miniscule so there's no comparison. From the very start I admitted weed can be bad if abused. Why would I ask you to show me something I already knew? You stated "but no amount of educating will stop weed from doing damage to adolescent brains." So I presumed you er re saying all weed no matter the amount or frequency causes damage. |
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Post by progressiveelement on Mar 10, 2018 18:09:35 GMT
Marmalade is gross
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Post by deembastille on Mar 10, 2018 20:26:37 GMT
PADDINGTON BOUT TO KICK YOUR ASS. |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 11, 2018 2:49:15 GMT
You do realize that the original claim I responded to was: "There's nothing wrong with kids doing drugs and drinking," yes? If now you're going with "nobody lives forever" as a defense, I'll just say "there's nothing wrong with going skydiving without a parachute." I'm getting rather tired of you moving the goalposts. You ask me to show where the article says the amount matters, and now you're saying that me showing that isn't the same as showing no matter how much is smoked there's brain damage, which isn't something you asked me to show, nor something I claimed. The negatives of smoking weed are miniscule so there's no comparison. From the very start I admitted weed can be bad if abused. Why would I ask you to show me something I already knew? You stated "but no amount of educating will stop weed from doing damage to adolescent brains." So I presumed you er re saying all weed no matter the amount or frequency causes damage. I don't call a loss of 8 IQ points a "minuscule" negative, but whatever you want to tell yourself. From the very start you said "There's nothing wrong with kids doing drugs and drinking," and ever since I proved that was false you've been moving the goalposts in order to deflect from that fact. What I meant by "but no amount of educating will stop weed from doing damage to adolescent brains" is the same thing I'd mean by "no amount of educating will stop teens from getting pregnant" or "...stop people from driving drunk" or whatever. Education doesn't stop people from being stupid; it can only help reduce the number of stupid people. Besides, we don't know what (if any) amount is "safe" for teenagers. Until we know, keeping it illegal under a certain age is prudent. |
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