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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 2:50:23 GMT
Q is off the table. Amazon want $36 for a 700 page paperback, for some strange reason. But I have 54 by Wu Ming knocking around somewhere, will give that a go some day.
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Post by mmexis on Mar 6, 2018 4:09:02 GMT
deembastille : I can totally feel your pain. Been there.... what do you teach?
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Post by deembastille on Mar 6, 2018 4:22:47 GMT
deembastille : I can totally feel your pain. Been there.... what do you teach? elementary. inner city. most are on public assistance and go home to parents who just. don't. give. a. holy. shit. behold the problem. this asinine book is apparently the solution.
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Post by mmexis on Mar 6, 2018 5:56:04 GMT
deembastille I teach secondary. Same demographic. At my last school I had huge inner city, even though it was in a former "suburb" of the city. Lots of poverty. School I'm at now, I'm the teacher librarian but school population 1800. Here, almost the opposite: many are new immigrants and we have other issues [maintaining culture and traditions, fitting in, learning language] but still poor, inner city area. Parents want to give a crap, but have language issues. Never heard of this PRIM. Am reading about guiding instruction (just for my own further clarification) and adolescent literacy. And really looking at the curriculum documents {snore}. Trying to avoid equity. I'm on a year off. What's the full title of the book and who's the author. Might take a look at it.
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Post by deembastille on Mar 6, 2018 11:08:00 GMT
The Pre-Referral intervention manual.
Our parents definitely give a crap but regarding the wrong things or the wrong times. They ignore their children in the street but if something happens to them in school-- no matter what happened or who's at fault... They are all over your ass. I understand that but give a shit about your kids when outside or in your care!
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Post by dougb on Mar 6, 2018 14:44:42 GMT
Michael Moorcock's "Colonel Pyat" tetralogy. They follow Maxim Arturovitch Pyatnitski (born on 1 January 1900 in Kiev), a classic unreliable narrator and self loathing Jew as he stumbles through the twentieth century on a headlong collision towards the holocaust.
My favourite ever books.
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Post by dougb on Mar 6, 2018 14:46:04 GMT
Oh, also Alan Moore's Jerusalem. Over a million words if that's good enough.
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Post by mmexis on Mar 7, 2018 1:48:01 GMT
deembastille Saw some of the sample pages, and.....nope, sorry, not touching that one! All yours!! Thankfully we don't have a manual to follow in my school board. It's a book I hope no one sees at the admin/board level.
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Post by mmexis on Mar 7, 2018 1:48:51 GMT
A fine balance by Rohinton Mistry. Salem's lot by Stephen King. If you add up all the books of the Neapolitan quartet, it's almost 1500 pages.
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Post by deembastille on Mar 7, 2018 2:23:48 GMT
deembastille Saw some of the sample pages, and.....nope, sorry, not touching that one! All yours!! ;) Thankfully we don't have a manual to follow in my school board. It's a book I hope no one sees at the admin/board level. that's not even the manual! that's the try these five hundred forty four pages before you call for the kid to be evaluated! sad thing: twerking during writing is not in the book and they still wouldn't see my second grade student who rubbed his butt on a girl. when I asked what he was doing, he was all 'whadido?' and said I was just dancing!
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Post by nutsberryfarm π on Mar 7, 2018 3:39:29 GMT
The Random House Book of 20th Century French Poetry
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Post by darknessfish on Mar 7, 2018 15:50:09 GMT
Q is off the table. Amazon want $36 for a 700 page paperback, for some strange reason. But I have 54 by Wu Ming knocking around somewhere, will give that a go some day. I didn't know any more of their novels had been translated, let me know what you think of it, I'd love to read more.
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Post by mrdanwest on Mar 8, 2018 0:42:44 GMT
Beyond those already mentioned I would recommend:
Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry - The seminal Western (cowboy) novel of the second half of the 20th Century
Underworld by Don DeLillo - the last (and longest) of his 1980s & 90s run of absolute masterpieces.
Tree of Smoke by Denis Johnson - Itβs closer to 700 pages but it is a really great novel about the Vietnam War that captures all of what made Johnson such a great writer.
Ulysses by James Joyce - not quite as tough a read as Gravityβs Rainbow but still probably an acquired taste. My least favorite of these four recommendations (although I did like it), but it is such an important piece of literature that I think anyone inclined to a challenging read should give it a shot.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 0:59:26 GMT
The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe
Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry
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Post by mmexis on Mar 8, 2018 2:48:12 GMT
deembastille: thanks for the laugh!! I don't know if I found "whadido" or "I was just dancing" funnier. The fun of being a teacher is something we could carry on "off board". Unless other people are interested..... it doesn't get easier in high school. They get smarter and some of them can split a hair so many times they can make a whole wig!
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Post by deembastille on Mar 8, 2018 3:11:16 GMT
deembastille: thanks for the laugh!! I don't know if I found "whadido" or "I was just dancing" funnier. The fun of being a teacher is something we could carry on "off board". Unless other people are interested..... it doesn't get easier in high school. They get smarter and some of them can split a hair so many times they can make a whole wig! my favorite was when i was teaching fifth grade and three of my girls who were friends and the class bullies [all of them were 13] were absent all on the same day... turns out they all decided to skip school to go to the movies but for some reason one girl didn't have her own money. she had to steal it from her mother. here is the senario. you can't make this up. she leaves for school and goes to the park to wait until her mother leaves for work. she goes back but then realizes her mother locked the door to her apartment. yeah parents do that. go figure. so she is thinking and thinking how to get into the apartment so she can swipe a 20 that she somehow knew her mother had knocking around the place. she goes to the roof and tries to climb down the fire escape to enter through the window -- which of course was closed and or had those childproof bars. so she is now stuck on the fire escape/roof since the door locked behind her. and i know this because it made the local news.
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Post by mmexis on Mar 8, 2018 7:10:52 GMT
Too funny!! I wish that I had something that "tame". Too many real life problems at the upper level.
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