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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 6, 2018 16:07:09 GMT
Thor wouldn't have sided with either since he's a GOD and he has no business with petty human squabbles. Banner would most likely take Stark's side since they're best buds. If he was on Earth at the time of Civil War he would have gotten involved because it involves the Avengers. Banner is buds with Stark when it comes to science and being on the Avengers. But I don't he would be okay with having to sign away what little freedom he has left.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 6, 2018 16:56:45 GMT
He's about to show up to Earth with a mass murderer and a bunch of refugees and expects to be given a home. Earth-related issues are exactly what he finds himself involved in now. Thor: "Hey, Stark, can you help my people out with a place to stay since Asgard blew up?" Stark: "Tropical island or snowy island?" They keep to themselves, what business does the rest of the world have with them? As long as they don't take over Montana then it should be fine. Well, Loki is a mass murderer so… Also, let's say that exact same conversation you gave as an example takes place. All the more reason for Thor to side with Stark.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 6, 2018 16:59:52 GMT
Thor wouldn't have sided with either since he's a GOD and he has no business with petty human squabbles. Banner would most likely take Stark's side since they're best buds. If he was on Earth at the time of Civil War he would have gotten involved because it involves the Avengers. Banner is buds with Stark when it comes to science and being on the Avengers. But I don't he would be okay with having to sign away what little freedom he has left.That is not and never was what the accords were.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 6, 2018 18:09:27 GMT
I have a hard time imagining Bruce would be fine siding with anyone who was allied with General Ross.
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Post by dazz on Mar 6, 2018 18:47:54 GMT
He's about to show up to Earth with a mass murderer and a bunch of refugees and expects to be given a home. Earth-related issues are exactly what he finds himself involved in now. Thor: "Hey, Stark, can you help my people out with a place to stay since Asgard blew up?" Stark: "Tropical island or snowy island?" They keep to themselves, what business does the rest of the world have with them? As long as they don't take over Montana then it should be fine. Well a technologically advanced alien race of hundreds to possibly thousands of super powerful demi-gods who are well known through the galaxy and likely have bad blood with many of hostile races such as Frost Giants and such there by painting a target on the planet as now their numbers have dwindled and they no longer have their fortified home of advanced science & magic to protect them whilst the majority of their fighting force has been slain, maybe something people would have issue with...maybe?
I mean Strange didn't like the idea of 3 of them on the planet at once especially Loki and Thor just decides meh fuck it lets go to earth, at the very lest the magic dude in New York will take issue with this right?
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 6, 2018 21:08:34 GMT
They would have joined the Justice League.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 6, 2018 22:58:04 GMT
They would have joined the Justice League. This.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 1:41:24 GMT
I have a hard time imagining Bruce would be fine siding with anyone who was allied with General Ross. Also I remember Tony stated in Civil War that he knows that Banner wouldn't be on his side.
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Post by poelzig on Mar 7, 2018 2:28:31 GMT
Ideally Marvel would have given us a proper Planet Hulk film. If they had done that he wouldn't have been around anyway. He just would've come back to kick ass like he did in World War Hulk. But no, Marvel fucked us all in the ass and we'll never get a Planet Hulk film. Thor was on Iron Man's side in the comics, right? I think so. But I'm not positive. It's been a long time since I read it. They're never gonna make a Planet Hulk story on its own, mainly because Bruce Banner isn't in it and Hulk's change in personality (suddenly becoming a more or less sentient being) came out of nowhere in the comic and would be even stranger in film without some explanation. Why would it be strange? Damn bro you must be ashamed of comic books. Why you ashamed of comic books bro? Comic books are literally all you have in life and now you ashamed of them? Is this a silent plea for help? You turning your back on your only friend so that has to mean something, right? After all 2+2 often equals 4. Maybe you need an artificial booster to pull you out of this depression that made you ashamed of comic books. Is it because the villain in Black Panther was the most important and interesting character?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 7, 2018 3:08:43 GMT
I have a hard time imagining Bruce would be fine siding with anyone who was allied with General Ross. This was a big missed opportunity. Especially since we will probably never get another Hulk solo movie.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 7, 2018 3:17:46 GMT
They're never gonna make a Planet Hulk story on its own, mainly because Bruce Banner isn't in it and Hulk's change in personality (suddenly becoming a more or less sentient being) came out of nowhere in the comic and would be even stranger in film without some explanation. Why would it be strange? Damn bro you must be ashamed of comic books. Why you ashamed of comic books bro? Comic books are literally all you have in life and now you ashamed of them? Is this a silent plea for help? You turning your back on your only friend so that has to mean something, right? After all 2+2 often equals 4. Maybe you need an artificial booster to pull you out of this depression that made you ashamed of comic books. Is it because the villain in Black Panther was the most important and interesting character? Calm down, you're going to give yourself skin failure.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 7, 2018 4:04:00 GMT
Why would it be strange? Damn bro you must be ashamed of comic books. Why you ashamed of comic books bro? Comic books are literally all you have in life and now you ashamed of them? Is this a silent plea for help? You turning your back on your only friend so that has to mean something, right? After all 2+2 often equals 4. Maybe you need an artificial booster to pull you out of this depression that made you ashamed of comic books. Is it because the villain in Black Panther was the most important and interesting character? Calm down, you're going to give yourself skin failure. You forgot to call him Francis.
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Post by poelzig on Mar 7, 2018 4:22:40 GMT
Why would it be strange? Damn bro you must be ashamed of comic books. Why you ashamed of comic books bro? Comic books are literally all you have in life and now you ashamed of them? Is this a silent plea for help? You turning your back on your only friend so that has to mean something, right? After all 2+2 often equals 4. Maybe you need an artificial booster to pull you out of this depression that made you ashamed of comic books. Is it because the villain in Black Panther was the most important and interesting character? Calm down, you're going to give yourself skin failure. That wasn't one of your usual handful of answers. First the comic book shame and now this. Damn bro you really are upset, huh? I'm sure the mcu will revert back to forgettable villains for Infinity War so hopefully you won't do anything drastic before then. Buck up little fella and consider using an artificial booster to get you through the tough time you're experiencing.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 7, 2018 4:56:33 GMT
Thor: "Hey, Stark, can you help my people out with a place to stay since Asgard blew up?" Stark: "Tropical island or snowy island?" They keep to themselves, what business does the rest of the world have with them? As long as they don't take over Montana then it should be fine. Well a technologically advanced alien race of hundreds to possibly thousands of super powerful demi-gods who are well known through the galaxy and likely have bad blood with many of hostile races such as Frost Giants and such there by painting a target on the planet as now their numbers have dwindled and they no longer have their fortified home of advanced science & magic to protect them whilst the majority of their fighting force has been slain, maybe something people would have issue with...maybe?
I mean Strange didn't like the idea of 3 of them on the planet at once especially Loki and Thor just decides meh fuck it lets go to earth, at the very lest the magic dude in New York will take issue with this right?
That's why I said they'd have their own island somewhere and not take residence in someone's nation. I mean, no matter what, people will cry about them. If they decided to set shop on the moon, people will cry about them having the technology to do so and want them to share it so they can live there too. And then after that, would want to get rid of them from the moon. Well, with them not having a planet to go to, I think he might concede just a little... And, even then, he'd most likely keep watch on them.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 7, 2018 5:09:23 GMT
If he was on Earth at the time of Civil War he would have gotten involved because it involves the Avengers. Banner is buds with Stark when it comes to science and being on the Avengers. But I don't he would be okay with having to sign away what little freedom he has left.That is not and never was what the accords were. The Hulk is a living weapon that would have to be monitored 24 hours a day. If he signed the accords, Banner would be signing the Hulk over to them. Meaning himself. He's not like Stark who can take the armor off and never wear it again. Same goes for the rest of them who could just stop using their powers. Remember, Ross tells them that they'd have to retire from the superhero life. Banner can turn into the Hulk by hitting his toe on something and getting agitated. The accords was meant to turn the Avengers into government officials instead of the private entity they were.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 7, 2018 5:13:10 GMT
Thor: "Hey, Stark, can you help my people out with a place to stay since Asgard blew up?" Stark: "Tropical island or snowy island?" They keep to themselves, what business does the rest of the world have with them? As long as they don't take over Montana then it should be fine. Well, Loki is a mass murderer so… Also, let's say that exact same conversation you gave as an example takes place. All the more reason for Thor to side with Stark. But that would have nothing to do with the accords. Even if Stark gave them an island (which would just be a peaceful way of getting a place for them) Thor would still disagree with him over having to sign away his ability to do what he pleases. You really think Thor would be okay with having to wait on a committee to tell him if he could save a life?
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 8, 2018 15:12:40 GMT
Well, Loki is a mass murderer so… Also, let's say that exact same conversation you gave as an example takes place. All the more reason for Thor to side with Stark. But that would have nothing to do with the accords. Even if Stark gave them an island (which would just be a peaceful way of getting a place for them) Thor would still disagree with him over having to sign away his ability to do what he pleases. You really think Thor would be okay with having to wait on a committee to tell him if he could save a life? Loki murdered people from all over the world – it has everything to do with the records. Wait, so you’re saying a living weapon with the capability of causing mass destruction needs to be… monitored? So like every other cop or member of the military on the planet?
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 8, 2018 16:42:26 GMT
But that would have nothing to do with the accords. Even if Stark gave them an island (which would just be a peaceful way of getting a place for them) Thor would still disagree with him over having to sign away his ability to do what he pleases. You really think Thor would be okay with having to wait on a committee to tell him if he could save a life? Loki murdered people from all over the world – it has everything to do with the records. Wait, so you’re saying a living weapon with the capability of causing mass destruction needs to be… monitored? So like every other cop or member of the military on the planet? What records? We are talking about the Sokovia Accords and who's side Hulk and Thor would choose. Thor asking Stark for help with a place for his people to live would have nothing to do with him choosing a side for the Accords. You really think Thor would sign something that says he has to ask permission to go where ever he wanted to go? If Banner signed the Accords he would be the property of the government. Hell, I think they would forgo the Accords and just detain him anyway. So, yeah, he wouldn't side with Stark. But the Avengers aren't cops or military. They are heroes that go wherever they are needed. Notice the words "private entity". They work for themselves. Even more so after Civil War since SHIELD isn't a thing anymore in the movies.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 8, 2018 19:18:30 GMT
Loki murdered people from all over the world – it has everything to do with the records. Wait, so you’re saying a living weapon with the capability of causing mass destruction needs to be… monitored? So like every other cop or member of the military on the planet? What records? We are talking about the Sokovia Accords and who's side Hulk and Thor would choose. Thor asking Stark for help with a place for his people to live would have nothing to do with him choosing a side for the Accords.T hor asking Stark for help with a place for his people to live would have nothing to do with him choosing a side for the Accords. You really think Thor would sign something that says he has to ask permission to go where ever he wanted to go? If Banner signed the Accords he would be the property of the government. Hell, I think they would forgo the Accords and just detain him anyway. So, yeah, he wouldn't side with Stark. But the Avengers aren't cops or military. They are heroes that go wherever they are needed. Notice the words "private entity". They work for themselves. Even more so after Civil War since SHIELD isn't a thing anymore in the movies. Loki is and Asgardian. Loki is Thor’s brother. Loki is a murderer. Thor will EXPECT “an island” (asylum) for his Asgardian brothers and sisters; which will include Loki. This goes right back to the heart of the issue as to why the accords were created to begin with. Don’t tell me it has nothing to do with the accords just because you like Cap more than Stark. No, they're vigilantes.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 8, 2018 19:28:36 GMT
What records? We are talking about the Sokovia Accords and who's side Hulk and Thor would choose. Thor asking Stark for help with a place for his people to live would have nothing to do with him choosing a side for the Accords. You really think Thor would sign something that says he has to ask permission to go where ever he wanted to go? If Banner signed the Accords he would be the property of the government. Hell, I think they would forgo the Accords and just detain him anyway. So, yeah, he wouldn't side with Stark. But the Avengers aren't cops or military. They are heroes that go wherever they are needed. Notice the words "private entity". They work for themselves. Even more so after Civil War since SHIELD isn't a thing anymore in the movies. No, they're vigilantes. Well, they are vigilant. Also, being a hero and being a vigilante isn't mutually exclusive. You don't have to officially work for a government to be a hero. And I meant Winter Soldier not Civil War...
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