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Post by petrolino on Jun 3, 2018 3:31:26 GMT
In one right now.
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Post by theshape25 on Jun 3, 2018 14:09:05 GMT
I was spending the night with my cousin when I was a kid. We were all in the living room watching tv when I heard my aunt say to my uncle, "there's that shadow again." I looked in the other room and there was a shadow of a man walking around. I always had a strange feeling in that house, so I asked my mom about it. She grew up in the house as it used to belong to my grandparents. She told me that back in the early 1900s a man hung himself in what was my cousin's room. That room was always freezing.
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Post by xystophoros on Jun 3, 2018 15:54:35 GMT
Yes, many, many times. I don't believe that ghosts are real, but I'm both fascinated and attracted to the idea of it, and I also love the aesthetics of horror, so one hobby of mine is visting supposedly haunted (and otherwise paranormal etc.) sites, or even just old cemeteries, old haunted-house looking buildings, etc. just if they look kind of horror-typical. I'm also a big fan of haunted house and horror themed attractions--haunted houses and dark house rides at amusement parks, Halloween attractions, etc. I'd love to get involved with a paranormal research group, but one that doesn't sensationalize or fictionalize anything, one that is very skeptical, yet still respectful of the ideas and open-minded about possibilities. The closest thing to that is the University of Virginia's Division of Perceptual Studies, whose mission is “the scientific empirical investigation of phenomena that suggest that currently accepted scientific assumptions and theories about the nature of mind or consciousness, and its relation to matter, may be incomplete.” There’s a fascinating article about it here: www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/02/there-is-a-paranormal-activity-lab-at-the-university-of-virginia/283584/It’s worth pointing out that DOPS doesn’t engage in “ghost hunting” or any of the stuff usually seen on TV — it employs serious scientists who apply the scientific method to paranormal claims. That’s in contrast to skeptics who dismiss every claim outright, and “ghost hunters” who fiddle around with equipment they don’t understand and will hold virtually anything up as “evidence” of the paranormal. (We all know those guys from TV: They’re the ones who film with night vision cameras, shout “Dude, did you HEAR that?!” and pretend to record “EVP”) For what it’s worth (and not surprisingly), the DOPS scientists haven’t found anything remotely credible aside from the alleged phenomenon of children reporting past life experiences, as if consciousness persists after death and some form of reincarnation occurs. The article details the case of one kid who supposedly has vivid memories of being a fighter pilot in World War II, including the names of his wingman and buddies in his unit, ship names, details from engagements, etc. It all seems eerie, yet I’ve read other accounts that point out the kid was almost certainly exposed to that information and internalized it. In cases like this, it may be the parents coaching the kid as well. Kind of like the trend a few years ago of young kids who say they went to heaven during near-death experiences and scored book deals based on their alleged experiences — the financial motive for the parents is clear, and it’s not difficult to convince a child he or she really “remembers” certain details as if they’d lived through them. |
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Post by cwsims on Jun 3, 2018 18:13:57 GMT
if you are referring to a Halloween haunted attraction with people dressed up in costumes then yes I have been in one of those. but an actual haunted house said to be inhabited by ghosts. demons. spirits. etc no I have never been in one of those
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 3, 2018 22:39:38 GMT
Yes, many, many times. I don't believe that ghosts are real, but I'm both fascinated and attracted to the idea of it, and I also love the aesthetics of horror, so one hobby of mine is visting supposedly haunted (and otherwise paranormal etc.) sites, or even just old cemeteries, old haunted-house looking buildings, etc. just if they look kind of horror-typical. I'm also a big fan of haunted house and horror themed attractions--haunted houses and dark house rides at amusement parks, Halloween attractions, etc. I'd love to get involved with a paranormal research group, but one that doesn't sensationalize or fictionalize anything, one that is very skeptical, yet still respectful of the ideas and open-minded about possibilities. The closest thing to that is the University of Virginia's Division of Perceptual Studies, whose mission is “the scientific empirical investigation of phenomena that suggest that currently accepted scientific assumptions and theories about the nature of mind or consciousness, and its relation to matter, may be incomplete.” There’s a fascinating article about it here: www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/02/there-is-a-paranormal-activity-lab-at-the-university-of-virginia/283584/It’s worth pointing out that DOPS doesn’t engage in “ghost hunting” or any of the stuff usually seen on TV — it employs serious scientists who apply the scientific method to paranormal claims. That’s in contrast to skeptics who dismiss every claim outright, and “ghost hunters” who fiddle around with equipment they don’t understand and will hold virtually anything up as “evidence” of the paranormal. (We all know those guys from TV: They’re the ones who film with night vision cameras, shout “Dude, did you HEAR that?!” and pretend to record “EVP”) For what it’s worth (and not surprisingly), the DOPS scientists haven’t found anything remotely credible aside from the alleged phenomenon of children reporting past life experiences, as if consciousness persists after death and some form of reincarnation occurs. The article details the case of one kid who supposedly has vivid memories of being a fighter pilot in World War II, including the names of his wingman and buddies in his unit, ship names, details from engagements, etc. It all seems eerie, yet I’ve read other accounts that point out the kid was almost certainly exposed to that information and internalized it. In cases like this, it may be the parents coaching the kid as well. Kind of like the trend a few years ago of young kids who say they went to heaven during near-death experiences and scored book deals based on their alleged experiences — the financial motive for the parents is clear, and it’s not difficult to convince a child he or she really “remembers” certain details as if they’d lived through them. I'd probably skip a group that's focusing on a nonphysicalist approach to consciousness. What I had in mind was more of a "ghost hunting" group, but one that doesn't sensationalize quite as much as the norm. |
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Post by xystophoros on Jun 4, 2018 3:53:40 GMT
I'd probably skip a group that's focusing on a nonphysicalist approach to consciousness. What I had in mind was more of a "ghost hunting" group, but one that doesn't sensationalize quite as much as the norm. It’s not a group, it’s an academic institution. It’s part of the university’s school of medicine, and everyone involved is a credentialed scientist. I’m not sure what you mean by non-physicalist. They are willing to look at alleged evidence, the problem is the evidence doesn’t exist. Along the same lines, there’s really no such thing as a ghost hunting group that doesn’t sensationalize. These are people who come together to run around abandoned asylums, fiddle with equipment they don’t understand, and tell each other stories. There are usually one or two who claim they’re mediums and say shit like “I’m getting strong emanations here!” They’re entertaining themselves, like Star Trek fans who role play as Federation bridge crews, or LARPers who dress up like Romans and hack each other with foam swords. |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 4, 2018 11:43:59 GMT
Along the same lines, there’s really no such thing as a ghost hunting group that doesn’t sensationalize. One could be started. Re nonphysicalism, there are folks who think that everything extant, including minds, are physical, and then there are folks who think that are least some things are not physical, and mind is usually one of the primary candidates for folks who think this. I'm a physicalist, however. |
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Post by xystophoros on Jun 4, 2018 17:34:55 GMT
Along the same lines, there’s really no such thing as a ghost hunting group that doesn’t sensationalize. One could be started. Re nonphysicalism, there are folks who think that everything extant, including minds, are physical, and then there are folks who think that are least some things are not physical, and mind is usually one of the primary candidates for folks who think this. I'm a physicalist, however. Ah. Yes, the mind can’t exist without its biological substrate. In fact the mind is part of that substrate, we just don’t understand how. Not coincidentally this distinction is at the heart of the artificial intelligence debate. Regarding ghost hunting, I do find it odd that some people will simultaneously claim the supernatural exists in a separate realm while attempting to collect physical evidence. |
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Post by Raimo47 on Jun 4, 2018 18:51:33 GMT
It all seems eerie, yet I’ve read other accounts that point out the kid was almost certainly exposed to that information and internalized it. In cases like this, it may be the parents coaching the kid as well.
Cavanaugh Flight Museum did not have a Corsair on display when James was visiting there with his father.
If you would actually read the case reports, you would know that fraud is not a plausible explanation for these cases.
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Post by Raimo47 on Jun 4, 2018 18:58:09 GMT
Ah. Yes, the mind can’t exist without its biological substrate.
That is merely an assumption. There is lots of very good evidence which suggests that the mind can exist without a brain.
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