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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 19:15:59 GMT
How many christians do actually live their life as Jesus would ? And how many christians do actually live a life according to the teaching of Jesus ?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 11, 2018 19:26:25 GMT
I don;t think numbers are important except in terms of it making the waters murky about what Jesus actually teaches.
All I can do is live my life as close to his as possible.
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Post by kls on Mar 11, 2018 20:56:09 GMT
How many christians do actually live their life as Jesus would ? And how many christians do actually live a life according to the teaching of Jesus ? The best we can do is strive for living according to His example.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 11, 2018 20:57:04 GMT
Wouldn't that require being homeless and walking around in robes?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 20:58:22 GMT
Wouldn't that require being homeless and walking around in robes? No
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 11, 2018 21:01:26 GMT
Wouldn't that require being homeless and walking around in robes? His teaching doesn't require that. He stayed with a lot of homeowners that were his disciples.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 21:20:59 GMT
He stayed with a lot of homeowners that were his disciples. Freeloader.
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Post by clusium on Mar 11, 2018 21:22:52 GMT
Wouldn't that require being homeless and walking around in robes? Certainly!!! That is exactly what St. Francis of Asssisi did, when he chose to emulate Christ. 
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Post by clusium on Mar 11, 2018 21:24:18 GMT
He stayed with a lot of homeowners that were his disciples. Freeloader. I don't think St. Lazarus or his sisters would regard Him as a "freeloader," after He Raised him (Lazarus) from the dead. I think Lazarus was very grateful to Our Lord for doing so.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 11, 2018 21:31:41 GMT
He stayed with a lot of homeowners that were his disciples. Freeloader. I'd let the Son of God stay with me, he could magically clean my apartment and suddenly poof me dinner every night.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 1:27:08 GMT
I don't think St. Lazarus or his sisters would regard Him as a "freeloader," after He Raised him (Lazarus) from the dead. I think Lazarus was very grateful to Our Lord for doing so. Most friends who let a freeloader live with them don't think of the friend as a freeloader. Guess what? If you're staying in a place you don't own, and you're not an employee of the owner and you're not paying rent... you're a freeloader. Whether people call you that or not.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 12, 2018 1:41:54 GMT
I don;t think numbers are important except in terms of it making the waters murky about what Jesus actually teaches. All I can do is live my life as close to his as possible. Based on what the bible and church tells you what his teaching were, or what his teachings were really all about?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 12, 2018 1:43:17 GMT
I don;t think numbers are important except in terms of it making the waters murky about what Jesus actually teaches. All I can do is live my life as close to his as possible. Based on what the bible and church tells you what his teaching were, or what his teachings were really all about? What were his teachings about if not found in the Bible?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 12, 2018 1:44:13 GMT
I don't think St. Lazarus or his sisters would regard Him as a "freeloader," after He Raised him (Lazarus) from the dead. I think Lazarus was very grateful to Our Lord for doing so. Most friends who let a freeloader live with them don't think of the friend as a freeloader. Guess what? If you're staying in a place you don't own, and you're not an employee of the owner and you're not paying rent... you're a freeloader. Whether people call you that or not. As long as a freeloader isn't a bad thing, then it's not really too terribly relevant.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 1:44:23 GMT
I don't think St. Lazarus or his sisters would regard Him as a "freeloader," after He Raised him (Lazarus) from the dead. I think Lazarus was very grateful to Our Lord for doing so. Most friends who let a freeloader live with them don't think of the friend as a freeloader. Guess what? If you're staying in a place you don't own, and you're not an employee of the owner and you're not paying rent... you're a freeloader. Whether people call you that or not. A freeloader is a person who takes advantage of others' generosity without giving anything in return. So as long as you offer something in return you are not a freeloader. It does not need to be money it can be something as simple as doing the dishes or mowing the lawn.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 12, 2018 2:23:07 GMT
Based on what the bible and church tells you what his teaching were, or what his teachings were really all about? What were his teachings about if not found in the Bible? The bible has glorified Christ into the savior of mankind. This is a fallacy. Christ was not anybody's savior and he was aware of the wholeness and completeness of everything around and within. He is was about transcendence and overcoming the ego mind. It is all one and whole and connected and the heavenly father is not a separate entity. God is everything and anything. Heaven and hell are just parables for pleasure and suffering. Even these are all one and the same thing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 2:31:32 GMT
Most friends who let a freeloader live with them don't think of the friend as a freeloader. Guess what? If you're staying in a place you don't own, and you're not an employee of the owner and you're not paying rent... you're a freeloader. Whether people call you that or not. A freeloader is a person who takes advantage of others' generosity without giving anything in return. So as long as you offer something in return you are not a freeloader. It does not need to be money it can be something as simple as doing the dishes or mowing the lawn. That would fall under the category of "paying rent" that I mentioned, albeit with work rather than money in your examples. Did jesus pay rent to his friends? I am intrigued to hear what the bible has to say on the subject. "And lo, he did stayeth with his friend Judas and sleepeth on his couch. And then did jesus regularly wash all of Judas' dishes, and dust the communal areas at least three times each week. And at the end of the month, then did jesus knock up a nice cabinet for Judas' bedroom, because there's no sense being a carpenter and not using those skills in life. And Judas did say unto jesus, 'why don't you make cabinets all the time and sell them, and then you could pay rent in proper money you cheap bastard'. And jesus did say unto him 'get off my case, man, is not the mowing and dusting and cabinet making enough for thee?' And Judas did say 'I suppose', and left it at that. But secretly in his heart, then did Judas decide that he had to work out some way to make some money off of jesus, one way or the other..." Seriously, that would explain so much!
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Post by clusium on Mar 12, 2018 3:06:35 GMT
A freeloader is a person who takes advantage of others' generosity without giving anything in return. So as long as you offer something in return you are not a freeloader. It does not need to be money it can be something as simple as doing the dishes or mowing the lawn. That would fall under the category of "paying rent" that I mentioned, albeit with work rather than money in your examples. Did jesus pay rent to his friends? I am intrigued to hear what the bible has to say on the subject. "And lo, he did stayeth with his friend Judas and sleepeth on his couch. And then did jesus regularly wash all of Judas' dishes, and dust the communal areas at least three times each week. And at the end of the month, then did jesus knock up a nice cabinet for Judas' bedroom, because there's no sense being a carpenter and not using those skills in life. And Judas did say unto jesus, 'why don't you make cabinets all the time and sell them, and then you could pay rent in proper money you cheap bastard'. And jesus did say unto him 'get off my case, man, is not the mowing and dusting and cabinet making enough for thee?' And Judas did say 'I suppose', and left it at that. But secretly in his heart, then did Judas decide that he had to work out some way to make some money off of jesus, one way or the other..." Seriously, that would explain so much! If you read my earlier post, Our Lord Jesus Raised St. Lazarus from the dead. There are also plenty of other stories of Him Curing the sick and the possessed while He Stayed at the homes of disciples whom He Stayed with.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 3:24:30 GMT
That would fall under the category of "paying rent" that I mentioned, albeit with work rather than money in your examples. Did jesus pay rent to his friends? I am intrigued to hear what the bible has to say on the subject. "And lo, he did stayeth with his friend Judas and sleepeth on his couch. And then did jesus regularly wash all of Judas' dishes, and dust the communal areas at least three times each week. And at the end of the month, then did jesus knock up a nice cabinet for Judas' bedroom, because there's no sense being a carpenter and not using those skills in life. And Judas did say unto jesus, 'why don't you make cabinets all the time and sell them, and then you could pay rent in proper money you cheap bastard'. And jesus did say unto him 'get off my case, man, is not the mowing and dusting and cabinet making enough for thee?' And Judas did say 'I suppose', and left it at that. But secretly in his heart, then did Judas decide that he had to work out some way to make some money off of jesus, one way or the other..." Seriously, that would explain so much! If you read my earlier post, Our Lord Jesus Raised St. Lazarus from the dead. There are also plenty of other stories of Him Curing the sick and the possessed while He Stayed at the homes of disciples whom He Stayed with. I'm not sure why that is relevant. I could be a doctor who cured people all day long. I'm still a freeloader if I'm sleeping on my friend's couch at night and not paying him rent.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Mar 12, 2018 3:35:14 GMT
That would fall under the category of "paying rent" that I mentioned, albeit with work rather than money in your examples. Did jesus pay rent to his friends? I am intrigued to hear what the bible has to say on the subject. "And lo, he did stayeth with his friend Judas and sleepeth on his couch. And then did jesus regularly wash all of Judas' dishes, and dust the communal areas at least three times each week. And at the end of the month, then did jesus knock up a nice cabinet for Judas' bedroom, because there's no sense being a carpenter and not using those skills in life. And Judas did say unto jesus, 'why don't you make cabinets all the time and sell them, and then you could pay rent in proper money you cheap bastard'. And jesus did say unto him 'get off my case, man, is not the mowing and dusting and cabinet making enough for thee?' And Judas did say 'I suppose', and left it at that. But secretly in his heart, then did Judas decide that he had to work out some way to make some money off of jesus, one way or the other..." Seriously, that would explain so much! If you read my earlier post, Our Lord Jesus Raised St. Lazarus from the dead. There are also plenty of other stories of Him Curing the sick and the possessed while He Stayed at the homes of disciples whom He Stayed with. No-one was raised from the dead then, just as no-one was raised from the dead now. What we can do, is raise ourselves from our inert conscious slumber and wake up to the divine nature and clarity within. That is what Christ represented and stepped beyond the thinking ego mind.
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