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Post by CrepedCrusader on Mar 11, 2018 20:53:21 GMT
Think of a director, writer or actor who you would love to be in a Star Wars movie. Now ask yourself this: why would they sign up to be part of franchise whose "fans" are going to harass them, send them death threats, etc., if they don't like the movie they were a part of?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 12, 2018 0:46:50 GMT
What kind of a stupid question is this? They would do it for money. Duh.
Troll harder.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Mar 12, 2018 2:42:05 GMT
Think of a director, writer or actor who you would love to be in a Star Wars movie. Now ask yourself this: why would they sign up to be part of franchise whose "fans" are going to harass them, send them death threats, etc., if they don't like the movie they were a part of? Do you really think that they care about harassment? Everything says that TPTB over Disney SW don't. They threw a slap in the face to a small subset of the fanbase in TFA: it easily could've been avoided by a little more originality and some authenticity when it came to the mythos of the Force surrounding Rey. They threw a slap in the face to a significantly bigger subset of the fanbase in TLJ: we can argue about how much but they generally marred Luke Skywalker's characterization; they didn't answer storyline questions, or abruptly ended major storylines (and characters) with no significance; and continued to water down the mythos and provide noticeable plot holes. - Some of that could've been avoided simply by writing some supposition and character development into the story. Besides Reylo's angst and Force flirtations, that is. This isn't a matter of the filmmakers scanning the fanbase and trying to put the top 100 fanfic theories into a movie. It's simply a matter of story and character development that harmonizes with the saga that came before it without strictly being bound by it. In other words, building on top of it, not tearing it down and rebuilding it. And also knowing the major characters and why people care about them, then at least somewhat writing them accordingly. But they didn't, to a very significant degree. And that seems by design. The impression I get is that they care more about putting Disney fan butts in Star Wars seats because that's how they think they're going to make money. And if that's not Star Warszy enough for the more established fanbase then they can watch a cartoon or stick their head in a book. There isn't any doubt that they know where the fanbase has disapproved or been polarized... and it hasn't phased them. So I ask you again, do you think they really care about harassment? |
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Post by ck100 on Mar 12, 2018 2:45:08 GMT
At the end of the day, these writers, actors and directors are still going to be rich and successful and we won't. They'll just laugh/cry all the way to the bank.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 12, 2018 2:53:13 GMT
At the end of the day, these writers, actors and directors are still going to be rich and successful and we won't. They'll just laugh/cry all the way to the bank. Exactly. They couldn't give a rat's ass about some neckbeards complaining on Twitter, no matter how vehemently. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 12, 2018 9:23:04 GMT
Think of a director, writer or actor who you would love to be in a Star Wars movie. Now ask yourself this: why would they sign up to be part of franchise whose "fans" are going to harass them, send them death threats, etc., if they don't like the movie they were a part of? Putting aside the toxic fanbase, which EVERY entertainment property has a toxic fanbase just a little FYI, most of them if not all of them do it for the money. That's why they'll direct, write or star in a Star Wars film/tv series. This whole "oh woe is me, the autist are screaming at me through a keyboard!" Is just a act for them. They don't care about you or me and they definitely don't take the "threats" seriously. Hell if anything they'll milk it for the victim bucks. So stop sucking their dick, because no matter how bad you want it, you're not going to get any of the sweet sweet semen from Lucas Film/Disney. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Mar 12, 2018 11:34:28 GMT
your heartfelt concern is moving, but misplaced. What have you rather heard directors say before:
- I do not want a lucrative franchise-direction job because of fear of the disgruntled fanbase who might chase me online.
or
- I do not want the job bc franchise-fare takes away all artistic creativity from you and makes you essentially a puppet and scapegoat of the studeo, having to paint by their numbers. No, thanks.
Tip: it's the latter  |
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Post by Oh My Aching Ackbar-Raddus! on Mar 12, 2018 19:33:11 GMT
your heartfelt concern is moving, but misplaced. What have you rather heard directors say before:
- I do not want a lucrative franchise-direction job because of fear of the disgruntled fanbase who might chase me online.
or
- I do not want the job bc franchise-fare takes away all artistic creativity from you and makes you essentially a puppet and scapegoat of the studeo, having to paint by their numbers. No, thanks.
Tip: it's the latter Well said. |
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Post by Spooky Ghost Ackbar on Mar 12, 2018 19:44:52 GMT
So we should all just pretend to like something that has clearly become a soul-less money making machine that canibalizes a once great franchise?
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Post by _ on Mar 13, 2018 2:13:50 GMT
So we should all just pretend to like something that has clearly become a soul-less money making machine that canibalizes a once great franchise? GIVE ACKBAR THE ONCE GREAT FRANCHISE!!!!! |
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Post by Jedan Archer on Mar 14, 2018 11:40:46 GMT
What is your point, kid? That people here being critical of Star Wars send death threats and harrass the director? Nonsense. Pure straw man nonsense born out of lack of argument.
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Post by shinnickneth on Mar 15, 2018 20:59:00 GMT
Think of a director, writer or actor who you would love to be in a Star Wars movie. Now ask yourself this: why would they sign up to be part of franchise whose "fans" are going to harass them, send them death threats, etc., if they don't like the movie they were a part of? You realize it's most likely just teens pranking them, right? Most people are rational when it comes to their criticism of movies. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Mar 16, 2018 15:38:26 GMT
I have the feeling CrepedCrusader is likely teen-pranking us all. with all his OPs he never responds to, he s/he is probably giggling like a school girl when meeting Justin Bieber.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 28, 2018 18:54:26 GMT
I think you're giving the complaints more credit then they actually have. The truth is the majority of movie goers are ok with the SW franchise as it is, as proven by the fact that these movies are still making hella money. Those numbers may not be reflective of quality, but it is reflective of popularity. At the end of they day the filmmakers are still making something that is successful, regardless of complaints.
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Post by simplemoviecommenter on Mar 28, 2018 20:37:55 GMT
I think you're giving the complaints more credit then they actually have. The truth is the majority of movie goers are ok with the SW franchise as it is, as proven by the fact that these movies are still making hella money. Those numbers may not be reflective of quality, but it is reflective of popularity. At the end of they day the filmmakers are still making something that is successful, regardless of complaints. So it is possible that a disproportionate number of people like a financially successful but low quality movie that doesn't deserve its popularity? That is not a good thing. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Apr 2, 2018 19:25:15 GMT
I think you're giving the complaints more credit then they actually have. The truth is the majority of movie goers are ok with the SW franchise as it is, as proven by the fact that these movies are still making hella money. Those numbers may not be reflective of quality, but it is reflective of popularity. At the end of they day the filmmakers are still making something that is successful, regardless of complaints. So it is possible that a disproportionate number of people like a financially successful but low quality movie that doesn't deserve its popularity? That is not a good thing. That is possible. It is also possible that you and a vocal minority believe it to be low quality, whether it actually is or not, and nothing I can say will make you think otherwise. Me? I Happen to think that 3 movies have been made under Disney and two of them were very good and one of them was just ok. IMO those are actually no bad odds so far. |
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Post by jammer81386 on Apr 4, 2018 23:01:01 GMT
I think a better question would be, why should the creators concern themselves with the "fans" when all they do in complain. This has essentially be the "modus operandi" of fans since 1999. Any and all things that don't meet their expectation equates to the "ruining" of the franchise.
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Post by darkpast on Jul 25, 2018 3:25:01 GMT
so what if 1% of the fans are bad, 99% of them are pretty decent. If you need your safe space get off social media.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jul 27, 2018 21:17:17 GMT
so what if 1% of the fans are bad, 99% of them are pretty decent. If you need your safe space get off social media. Yes, because anybody who doesn't like death threats and racist comments is a total snowflake, amiright? |
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Post by agentsparky on Aug 6, 2018 5:00:00 GMT
I think you're giving the complaints more credit then they actually have. The truth is the majority of movie goers are ok with the SW franchise as it is, as proven by the fact that these movies are still making hella money. Those numbers may not be reflective of quality, but it is reflective of popularity. At the end of they day the filmmakers are still making something that is successful, regardless of complaints. The 700 million dip from The Force Awakens to The Last Jedi and Solo flopping losing 100 million says otherwise. |
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