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Post by James on Mar 16, 2018 2:09:26 GMT
A Clockwork Orange
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Post by Nora on Mar 16, 2018 2:14:26 GMT
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Post by James on Mar 16, 2018 2:17:48 GMT
The undertones of ultra-violence and rape are very unsettling thoughts, and had it been made today it would be pulled down immediately. Besides, just watch it and you'll find out yourself.
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Post by Nora on Mar 16, 2018 2:20:25 GMT
The undertones of ultra-violence and rape are very unsettling thoughts, and had it been made today it would be pulled down immediately. Besides, just watch it and you'll find out yourself. i have seen it and I don't think it would be forbidden to make today. Its clearly a non-realistic world so in that context I think it would still fly…
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Post by James on Mar 16, 2018 2:28:13 GMT
The undertones of ultra-violence and rape are very unsettling thoughts, and had it been made today it would be pulled down immediately. Besides, just watch it and you'll find out yourself. i have seen it and I don't think it would be forbidden to make today. Its clearly a non-realistic world so in that context I think it would still fly… True. However, it is still messed up in many ways like the prolonged rape scene with the Alexander invasion and even many phallic images like at the bar or the cat lady's apartment.
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Post by louise on Mar 16, 2018 13:31:09 GMT
the Carry On films - very popular here in the UK from late 50s to late 70s. WIldly unPC, full of sexual innuendo and ladies losing their clothes etc.
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Post by someguy on Mar 16, 2018 13:51:51 GMT
Heathers.
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Post by koskiewicz on Mar 16, 2018 16:03:19 GMT
...the 3 Stooges short subjects depicting Japanese soldiers...
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Post by geralmar on Mar 16, 2018 17:47:51 GMT
Zulu (1964), unfortunately: terrific movie. The Naked Prey (1965). One nasty African tribe. The Legend of n****r Charley (1972). At least a name change.
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Post by teleadm on Mar 16, 2018 18:15:01 GMT
Two movie that was made when building empires was though of as a good thing, that would be interesting to see how they would be done today: Clive of India 1935 about Robert Clive's gift for manipulation that strengthened England's hold over India in 18th century India, still considered a hero in 1935, I don't think the Indians agreed. 1936 about Cecil Rhodes, tells the "true" story of Cecil Rhodes, a diamond miner who helped found the South African colonies. In 1936 that was concidered heroic, what the natives though about it, they didn't care about back then.
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Post by THawk on Mar 16, 2018 18:32:49 GMT
Well to expand on this, what does it say about what society is doing to art if so many films, many of them very good films, would have no chance to be made today?
There is some kind of narrative that society is "progressing," but if art is restrained, I fail to see how that is so.
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Post by bravomailer on Mar 16, 2018 19:36:22 GMT
Gunga Din – even though it conveys the courage and humanity of a non-white figure, it commits three egregious and unpardonable sins: 1) having a white person (Sam Jaffe) play said figure, 2) showing him eager to adopt British (read "civilized") ways, and 3) depicting a "mad mullah" (played by another white man) advocating resistance not in keeping with a religion we now know to be peaceful. (Same with Khartoum on this last point.) Furthermore, the elephant Suzy is forced to do dangerous work.
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Post by geralmar on Mar 16, 2018 19:36:39 GMT
The Klansman (1974).
I saw it in a double feature with the aforementioned Mandingo at the Fox Theatre in Detroit with a nearly all-black crowd back in 1976. (I was relieved to sneak out of theatre with my life at the end.) Two of the most blatantly and hilariously racist movies I have ever seen. I swear Blazing Saddles stole a gag from this movie. Absolutely no way no how could this movie be made in the U.S. today, which makes it a must-see. All-star cast with Lee Marvin, Richard Burton(!), Luciana Paluzzi, and O.J. Simpson sneaking around delivering black justice. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an uncut version on DVD, and may never be. I doubt the Library of Congress will preserve this movie for its collection. A shame.
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Post by marianne48 on Mar 17, 2018 0:04:08 GMT
Disagree with Bad News Bears. Fact is that those remarks were politically incorrect for 90% of Americans in 1945, and for 100% in 1975. I wasn't there in 1945, but the movies and TV shows show it, and I was there out of high school, in college, in the work force at several different jobs, in 1975, and believe me, anyone whom I heard say one racist line anywhere, had better be sure it was against whites, or he would never be allowed to speak nor work, nor school, there again.
I grew up in the 1970s and was about the same age as those kids, and I knew a few kids (boys and girls) who used all those slurs regularly. It was a way that kids of a certain age (about 9-12), particularly those in middle-class suburbia, like Tanner in the movie, spoke in an attempt to sound "tough"and "edgy"--of course it was politically incorrect, that's exactly why they talked like that. It certainly worked for Tanner. Today, Tanner's remarks would probably just be obscene rather than politically incorrect. Others which couldn't be made today: Boys Town--a priest taking a bunch of boys from broken homes under his wing? Movies featuring lovable pet chimps. Movies with a large cast of Chinese characters in which the main roles are played by Caucasians with their eyes taped back to look "Asian," and they speak in atrocious "Charlie Chan" accents.
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Post by Gourmando the Reindeer on Mar 17, 2018 0:16:10 GMT
Lots of good answers, best one from teleadm. Tarzan of the thirties would be impossible to do as it was. In defense of TARZAN AND HIS MATE, a classic, the most heroic of the safari turns out to be the head African, and one of the other Africans almost survives to the end. In fact, it's his downfall that we feel the most empathy for at the end.
That's actully going to be on television tomorrow. 10:00 am EST in the US on Turner Classic Movies.
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Post by poelzig on Mar 17, 2018 1:36:34 GMT
Any movies featuring that rascal Ribbles.
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Post by cinemafan97 on Mar 17, 2018 3:10:11 GMT
A Clockwork Orange, Blazing Saddles, Weird Science, and Falling Down just to name a handful.
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Post by James Bond on Mar 17, 2018 3:12:43 GMT
A Clockwork Orange, Blazing Saddles, Weird Science, and Falling Down just to name a handful. Now that's one I'd love to see a remake of.
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Post by someguy on Mar 17, 2018 3:19:51 GMT
It's so clever, black and satiric though, that I don't think it would be that much of an issue. Some of it was taking the piss out of homophobia rather than ridiculing homosexuals, and the killing off of the b!tchy and narcissistic Heathers, wasn't exactly sexist or misogynist in anyway. It was what they represented, and most people from either gender wouldn't have cared much for these type of over-indulged, self-entitled and self-important girls. The reason I think it couldn't be made is because of the string of school shootings in the three decades since the film was made. Making a comedy out of high school students killing their classmates simply wouldn't fly today.
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Post by geralmar on Mar 17, 2018 18:33:53 GMT
As I have been rewatching some of the old Johnny Weismuller Tarzan movies from the 1930s. I don't think they could have done those stories as is nowdays. It's in either Tarzan the Ape Man (1932) or Tarzan and his Mate (1934) that the expedition is shown struggling up the mountainside when one of the native loadbearers slips and falls off the cliff screaming to his death with his bundle. One of the expedition members then says something like, "Darn, there go the medical supplies!".
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