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Post by goz on Mar 14, 2018 20:49:52 GMT
Aaron Freeman.
“You want a physicist to speak at your funeral. You want the physicist to talk to your grieving family about the conservation of energy, so they will understand that your energy has not died. You want the physicist to remind your sobbing mother about the first law of thermodynamics; that no energy gets created in the universe, and none is destroyed. You want your mother to know that all your energy, every vibration, every Btu of heat, every wave of every particle that was her beloved child remains with her in this world. You want the physicist to tell your weeping father that amid energies of the cosmos, you gave as good as you got.
And at one point you’d hope that the physicist would step down from the pulpit and walk to your broken-hearted spouse there in the pew and tell him that all the photons that ever bounced off your face, all the particles who’s paths were interrupted by your smile, by the touch of your hair, hundreds of trillions of particles, have raced off like children, their ways forever changed by you. And as your widow rocks in the arms of a loving family, may the physicist let her know that all the photons that bounced from you were gathered in the particle detectors that are her eyes, that those photons created within her constellations of electromagnetically charged neurons whose energy will go on forever.
And the physicist will remind the congregation of how much of all your energy is given off as heat. There may be a few fanning themselves with their programs as he says it. And he will tell him that the warmth that flowed through you in life is still here, still part of all that we are, even as we who mourn continue the heat of our own lives.
And you’ll want the physicist to explain to those who loved you that they need not have faith; indeed, they should not have faith. Let them know they can measure, that scientists have measure precisely the conservation of energy and found it accurate, verifiable and consistent across space and time. You can hope your family will examine the evidence and satisfy themselves that the science is sound and that they’ll be comforted to know your energy’s still around. According to the law of the conservation of energy, not a bit of you is gone; you’re just less orderly. Amen." – Aaron Freeman
I particularly love the last bit, though I am often pretty disorderly now!
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Post by Arlon10 on Mar 14, 2018 23:12:25 GMT
... ... ... ... And you’ll want the physicist to explain to those who loved you that they need not have faith; indeed, they should not have faith. Let them know they can measure, ... ... ... You can measure how much it already rained today. You cannot measure how much it will rain next week. I didn't mean that for your parade though.
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Post by goz on Mar 14, 2018 23:21:21 GMT
... ... ... ... And you’ll want the physicist to explain to those who loved you that they need not have faith; indeed, they should not have faith. Let them know they can measure, ... ... ... You can measure how much it already rained today. You cannot measure how much it will rain next week. I didn't mean that for your parade though. As usual, you have totally missed the point, butt then that is what you do. What you neglected was the next bit of the equation. ie no energy ever dissipates. YOU may be dead butt the energy that was you continues and is measurable, it is just in a less ordered manner than it was in the complexities of your body.
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Post by Arlon10 on Mar 14, 2018 23:32:40 GMT
You can measure how much it already rained today. You cannot measure how much it will rain next week. I didn't mean that for your parade though. As usual, you have totally missed the point, butt then that is what you do. I can be annoyingly independent, but no I did not "miss" anything. I just didn't find it as interesting as many people I am certain would.
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Post by Marv on Mar 14, 2018 23:35:57 GMT
I hate how people assume atheists are all really into science.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 14, 2018 23:48:50 GMT
I hate how people assume atheists are all really into science. It's even worse that people think religious folk hate science. Apparently me: Derp! what's all this sciency energy stuff? I'm going to heaven you burnhellers!
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Post by goz on Mar 15, 2018 1:54:11 GMT
I hate how people assume atheists are all really into science. Don't worry! You don't have to be to be a card carrier! For some, ignorance is bliss.
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Post by goz on Mar 15, 2018 1:57:37 GMT
I hate how people assume atheists are all really into science. It's even worse that people think religious folk hate science. Apparently me: Derp! what's all this sciency energy stuff? I'm going to heaven you burnhellers! It's not that you 'hate' science, it is that you can't really reconcile it with some your more fundamentalists beliefs and the contents of the Bible esp OT.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Mar 15, 2018 6:45:20 GMT
I hate how people assume atheists are all really into science. But it's real funny when an atheist who knows nothing about science starts a thread referencing science...or any other topic where she is ignorant. I know nothing about Classical Music so maybe I should start a thread comparing Bach with Beethoven.
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Post by goz on Mar 15, 2018 7:21:07 GMT
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Mar 15, 2018 7:23:07 GMT
LOFL
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Post by goz on Mar 15, 2018 7:31:21 GMT
You can laugh now, since the ONLY reason you try to discredit me on any subject at all, is that I call you on your increasingly untenable gun nut situation. The youth of your country are now rising up against this. Read and weep. You may think it is about science, yet you and I and this board ALL know that you just discredit me at every turn just for the hell of it because you cannot justify your country's appalling record on gun deaths and the criminal lack of responsible gun control as most other Western nations, including my own have enacted to protect our citizens and especially our children. You are a sad sad sad little man. You follow me around like a little puppy just dissing whatever I say. Sad sad sad little man.Does having 130 guns make you feel better?
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Mar 15, 2018 7:43:14 GMT
You can laugh now, since the ONLY reason you try to discredit me on any subject at all, is that I call you on your increasingly untenable gun nut situation. The youth of your country are now rising up against this. Read and weep. You may think it is about science, yet you and I and this board ALL know that you just discredit me at every turn just for the hell of it because you cannot justify your country's appalling record on gun deaths and the criminal lack of responsible gun control as most other Western nations, including my own have enacted to protect our citizens and especially our children. You are a sad sad sad little man. You follow me around like a little puppy just dissing whatever I say. Sad sad sad little man.Does having 130 guns make you feel better? Seek psychiatric help and an adult literacy program...NOW!
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Post by goz on Mar 15, 2018 7:55:48 GMT
You can laugh now, since the ONLY reason you try to discredit me on any subject at all, is that I call you on your increasingly untenable gun nut situation. The youth of your country are now rising up against this. Read and weep. You may think it is about science, yet you and I and this board ALL know that you just discredit me at every turn just for the hell of it because you cannot justify your country's appalling record on gun deaths and the criminal lack of responsible gun control as most other Western nations, including my own have enacted to protect our citizens and especially our children. You are a sad sad sad little man. You follow me around like a little puppy just dissing whatever I say. Sad sad sad little man.Does having 130 guns make you feel better? Seek psychiatric help and an adult literacy program...NOW! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL you pathetic small penised gun nut! You are a dinosaur, even the school students of America know better than you and Trump. Don't embarrass yourself further.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Mar 15, 2018 7:58:26 GMT
Seek psychiatric help and an adult literacy program...NOW! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL you pathetic small penised gun nut! You are a dinosaur, even the school students of America know better than you and Trump. Don't embarrass yourself further. A fossil calling me a dinosaur - comedy gold.
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Post by goz on Mar 15, 2018 8:08:44 GMT
p LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL you pathetic small penised gun nut! You are a dinosaur, even the school students of America know better than you and Trump. Don't embarrass yourself further. A fossil calling me a dinosaur - comedy gold. ...and yet I am on the side of the more contemporaneous side of American student youth who want more gun control and not less! The government, the NRA and gun people like you have let them down. I TOLD YOU SO.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Mar 15, 2018 8:14:50 GMT
p A fossil calling me a dinosaur - comedy gold. ...and yet I am on the side of the more contemporaneous side of American student youth who want more gun control and not less! The government, the NRA and gun people like you have let them down. I TOLD YOU SO. Calm down before you send yourself into cardiac arrest. Also, I've told you before that I don't argue with logical fallacies, in this case an appeal to popularity fallacy.
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Post by goz on Mar 15, 2018 8:23:12 GMT
p...and yet I am on the side of the more contemporaneous side of American student youth who want more gun control and not less! The government, the NRA and gun people like you have let them down. I TOLD YOU SO. Calm down before you send yourself into cardiac arrest. Also, I've told you before that I don't argue with logical fallacies, in this case an appeal to popularity fallacy. No, and if you just stuck to the truth of the scourge of gun deaths and injury in your country and the FACT that the youth is now involved and engaged in pushing for reform...we could actually have a discussion about how this could be achieved instead of 'YOU CAINT TAKE AWAY MAY GURNS! <your mentality
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Mar 15, 2018 8:24:52 GMT
Calm down before you send yourself into cardiac arrest. Also, I've told you before that I don't argue with logical fallacies, in this case an appeal to popularity fallacy. No, and if you just stuck to the truth of the scourge of gun deaths and injury in your country and the FACT that the youth is now involved and engaged in pushing for reform...we could actually have a discussion about how this could be achieved instead of 'YOU CAINT TAKE AWAY MAY GURNS! <your mentality Whoa, a bandwagon fallacy combined with a non-sequitur. You're on a roll!
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Post by goz on Mar 15, 2018 8:32:43 GMT
No, and if you just stuck to the truth of the scourge of gun deaths and injury in your country and the FACT that the youth is now involved and engaged in pushing for reform...we could actually have a discussion about how this could be achieved instead of 'YOU CAINT TAKE AWAY MAY GURNS! <your mentality Whoa, a bandwagon fallacy combined with a non-sequitur. You're on a roll! Is that the best you have to refute the truth of 100,000 American deaths and injuries per annum, including 7,000 school children's deaths since S Sandy Hook, you pathetic little man. Your totally desperate designation of the fact that I produce which you NEVER refute into fallacies 101 is getting old and is the ultimate deflection because you rall can't argue against the cause of death and injury of 100,000 Americans per annum. Nice try. ( No really stupid actually not to mention repetitive)
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