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Post by Arlon10 on Mar 17, 2018 13:26:24 GMT
... and summer meant vacation
... and your parents paid for it all
... and you got a new video game cartridge
I still liked winter better
... because the snow was more fun
... because you never had to drive in it
... because your parents did all the driving
My favorite weather of all was about the time school started and the sun was very warm and the wind was very cool and you could have any temperature you wanted just by facing the sun or the wind more.
It's difficult to image an afterlife better than all that. Is it not?
I thought it would be pleasant to think about these things instead of school shootings for a moment.
The kids who walked out of school in protest of lax gun laws were in high school and those people often have summer jobs and use of a car, if not their own car.
But they probably have more video games than anyone else.
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Post by captainbryce on Mar 17, 2018 13:57:48 GMT
I don’t really remember being a kid. The few parts I do remember are not pleasant, so I try to avoid such memories. I think only privileged kids had their own car in high school. Most kids I know didn’t start driving until after they graduated; and didn’t have their own car until they had a real job.
But video games, yes kids who could afford it, or had generous parents often had video games. But that was the video game generation! Those same kids (who are adults now) are the ones still buying most of the video games (which are now targeted to adults). The average gamer is 35 years old and 72 percent are age 18 or older. Women age 18 and older represent a significantly greater portion of the video game-playing population (31 percent) than boys under age 18 (18 percent).
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Post by Arlon10 on Mar 17, 2018 15:09:22 GMT
ANyone who hurts children is the lowest of the low. I suppose that's true if one mass murderer can be said to be worse than another. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Mar 17, 2018 15:15:39 GMT
I don’t really remember being a kid. The few parts I do remember are not pleasant, so I try to avoid such memories. I think only privileged kids had their own car in high school. Most kids I know didn’t start driving until after they graduated; and didn’t have their own car until they had a real job. But video games, yes kids who could afford it, or had generous parents often had video games. But that was the video game generation! Those same kids (who are adults now) are the ones still buying most of the video games (which are now targeted to adults). The average gamer is 35 years old and 72 percent are age 18 or older. Women age 18 and older represent a significantly greater portion of the video game-playing population (31 percent) than boys under age 18 (18 percent). You don't need a car or a video game to enjoy snow. You do need cold weather though. Where the weather is warmer there are beaches or swimming pools. I doubt many people of any age are buying the newest video games. I think video game popularity has gone steadily down since the original Nintendo NES 8 bit peak. |
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Post by captainbryce on Mar 17, 2018 17:16:22 GMT
I doubt many people of any age are buying the newest video games. I think video game popularity has gone steadily down since the original Nintendo NES 8 bit peak. And you’d be extremely wrong! Video game trends and statisticsUS Gamers |
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Post by koskiewicz on Mar 17, 2018 19:17:39 GMT
...thank goodness for childhood's end...!!!
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 18, 2018 2:50:29 GMT
Weather-wise, fall has always been my favorite season, but as a kid it was also always back-to-school time, which kinda sucks. I appreciate more as an adult that I can sit outside and enjoy nature and a good book. As a kid, summer was great because it was 3 months of doing whatever the hell I wanted, usually with friends. One summer was spent with my cousin doing nothing but playing various video games. That summer I beat all three Ninja Gaiden games, and collectively we managed to beat all the Mario games (up to Super Mario World), and the two Donkey Kong Country games. Good times.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 18, 2018 2:54:24 GMT
I don’t really remember being a kid. The few parts I do remember are not pleasant, so I try to avoid such memories. I think only privileged kids had their own car in high school. Most kids I know didn’t start driving until after they graduated; and didn’t have their own car until they had a real job. But video games, yes kids who could afford it, or had generous parents often had video games. But that was the video game generation! Those same kids (who are adults now) are the ones still buying most of the video games (which are now targeted to adults). The average gamer is 35 years old and 72 percent are age 18 or older. Women age 18 and older represent a significantly greater portion of the video game-playing population (31 percent) than boys under age 18 (18 percent). I doubt many people of any age are buying the newest video games. I think video game popularity has gone steadily down since the original Nintendo NES 8 bit peak.  What in the world makes you think that? vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Video_game_industry |
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Post by Marv on Mar 18, 2018 12:09:30 GMT
As a kid i loved winter. Sled riding, ice skating, hot cocoa, christmas...all that jazz relly appealed to me. Nowadays im far more partial to fall. i prefer to wear pants and a hooded sweatshirt and i hate being hot so summer is out. Fall is cool days getting colder as oppose to cool days getting hotter so that ultimately wins.
And yea, tons of people play video games. Worth noting those stats include smartphone apps...which for some reason lots of people don't think of as video games but thats exactly what stuff like Candy Crush and Subway Surfer are.
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Post by Arlon10 on Mar 18, 2018 12:18:25 GMT
I doubt many people of any age are buying the newest video games. I think video game popularity has gone steadily down since the original Nintendo NES 8 bit peak. And you’d be extremely wrong! Video game trends and statisticsUS Gamers I might be extremely wrong. I haven't conducted any sweeping surveys. Your links however do not show that I am wrong. They only show statistics for one year each. One link shows 2016, the other shows 2017, statistics. There is no data for earlier years and nothing to indicate video game usage was not very much higher in those years as I claimed. There are other problems with your claim. That does not indicate the devices are new. I own two NES game consoles and more than 50 NES game cartridges and still use them. I would be counted in that 48% . I would also be counted if I did not use them. Do you really count all the "games" on PCs in the same category as on dedicated consoles? You realize that includes o lot of solitaire and mahjong and Scrabble? The deceptive thing about those figures is that it appears over half of the population is playing video games. That is not what is says. There might be only 4% of the population playing video games. If 59% of those are male then that's only 2.36 percent of the population. 4% is only a guess though. Your sites do not show and I can only guess what the actual percentage is. |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 18, 2018 12:39:02 GMT
Do you really count all the "games" on PCs in the same category as on dedicated consoles? You realize that includes o lot of solitaire and mahjong and Scrabble. Plenty of games have had simultaneous PC/console releases. In fact, for many years, PC gaming had better technology than console gaming, though I think it's caught up now. PC gamers are often a hardcore bunch that do much more than play board/card games. In fact, I remember before I had a PC I was often jealous of how many acclaimed games were out on PC long before they were available on consoles (if they ever were). I was pretty psyched when I finally got to play Myst and Deus Ex on consoles. |
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Post by captainbryce on Mar 18, 2018 17:36:48 GMT
I might be extremely wrong. I haven't conducted any sweeping surveys. Your links however do not show that I am wrong. They only show statistics for one year each. One link shows 2016, the other shows 2017, statistics. There is no data for earlier years and nothing to indicate video game usage was not very much higher in those years as I claimed. There are other problems with your claim. That does not indicate the devices are new. I own two NES game consoles and more than 50 NES game cartridges and still use them. I would be counted in that 48% . I would also be counted if I did not use them. Do you really count all the "games" on PCs in the same category as on dedicated consoles? You realize that includes o lot of solitaire and mahjong and Scrabble? The deceptive thing about those figures is that it appears over half of the population is playing video games. That is not what is says. There might be only 4% of the population playing video games. If 59% of those are male then that's only 2.36 percent of the population. 4% is only a guess though. Your sites do not show and I can only guess what the actual percentage is. This conversation is so dumb, it’s almost not even worth arguing. You are the one who made the first claim (unsupported by facts, stats, or even a logical, reasonable argument for why it MIGHT be true). There are dozens of statistics that refute your position. Now you can quibble over how to interpret the statistics you want, but at the end of the day, there are MORE games available today, MORE households purchasing game systems than 30 years ago, and a LARGER gaming community (since online gaming is actually a thing today when it wasn’t before). The gaming industry has continued to grow (and is expected to continue to grow) with each passing year. And no, the stats do NOT include solitaire or any game that come preinstalled with a PC. It specifically applies to games that are PURCHASED. Game industry growth. |
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Post by gadreel on Mar 18, 2018 18:34:48 GMT
I don’t really remember being a kid. The few parts I do remember are not pleasant, so I try to avoid such memories. I think only privileged kids had their own car in high school. Most kids I know didn’t start driving until after they graduated; and didn’t have their own car until they had a real job. But video games, yes kids who could afford it, or had generous parents often had video games. But that was the video game generation! Those same kids (who are adults now) are the ones still buying most of the video games (which are now targeted to adults). The average gamer is 35 years old and 72 percent are age 18 or older. Women age 18 and older represent a significantly greater portion of the video game-playing population (31 percent) than boys under age 18 (18 percent). You don't need a car or a video game to enjoy snow. You do need cold weather though. Where the weather is warmer there are beaches or swimming pools. I doubt many people of any age are buying the newest video games. I think video game popularity has gone steadily down since the original Nintendo NES 8 bit peak. You would be wrong (yet again) www.statista.com/statistics/273258/us-computer-and-video-game-sales/ |
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Post by clusium on Mar 18, 2018 18:53:06 GMT
I don’t really remember being a kid. The few parts I do remember are not pleasant, so I try to avoid such memories. I think only privileged kids had their own car in high school. Most kids I know didn’t start driving until after they graduated; and didn’t have their own car until they had a real job. But video games, yes kids who could afford it, or had generous parents often had video games. But that was the video game generation! Those same kids (who are adults now) are the ones still buying most of the video games (which are now targeted to adults). The average gamer is 35 years old and 72 percent are age 18 or older. Women age 18 and older represent a significantly greater portion of the video game-playing population (31 percent) than boys under age 18 (18 percent). You don't remember being a kid?!?! WOW!!!! Personally, I can remember as far back approximately to around 18 months!!!! Like you, I too, have plenty of unpleasant memories of being a kid, though (though I had some happy ones as well). |
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Post by Arlon10 on Mar 18, 2018 19:08:56 GMT
You don't need a car or a video game to enjoy snow. You do need cold weather though. Where the weather is warmer there are beaches or swimming pools. I doubt many people of any age are buying the newest video games. I think video game popularity has gone steadily down since the original Nintendo NES 8 bit peak. You would be wrong (yet again) www.statista.com/statistics/273258/us-computer-and-video-game-sales/ None of the links provided by captainbryce show any increase in any game sales at all (just a prediction of growth and lame growth at that). That link of yours actually does. Congratulations. It does not however show any increase in new game sales. Game Stop for example continues to sell older systems and games as does Ebay, Amazon and other outlets. Another problem with your link is that it is not adjusted for inflation and so the growth is very deceptively high. Adjust for inflation. And of course your link only starts with data from 2000 by which time sales of Nintendo products had already drastically fallen. You have not shown that you even caught up with those losses. So you lose, lose, lose and lose again. Why do I keep following your links? |
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Post by gadreel on Mar 18, 2018 19:25:23 GMT
None of the links provided by captainbryce show any increase in any game sales at all (just a prediction of growth and lame growth at that). That link of yours actually does. Congratulations. It does not however show any increase in new game sales. Game Stop for example continues to sell older systems and games as does Ebay, Amazon and other outlets. Another problem with your link is that it is not adjusted for inflation and so the growth is very deceptively high. Adjust for inflation. And of course your link only starts with data from 2000 by which time sales of Nintendo products had already drastically fallen. You have not shown that you even caught up with those losses. So you lose, lose, lose and lose again. Why do I keep following your links? Why are you like this? vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Video_game_industryThis is stuff that literally takes three minutes to look up, as a 'journalist' are you not supposed to be able to do research? |
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Post by Arlon10 on Mar 18, 2018 20:15:23 GMT
None of the links provided by captainbryce show any increase in any game sales at all (just a prediction of growth and lame growth at that). That link of yours actually does. Congratulations. It does not however show any increase in new game sales. Game Stop for example continues to sell older systems and games as does Ebay, Amazon and other outlets. Another problem with your link is that it is not adjusted for inflation and so the growth is very deceptively high. Adjust for inflation. And of course your link only starts with data from 2000 by which time sales of Nintendo products had already drastically fallen. You have not shown that you even caught up with those losses. So you lose, lose, lose and lose again. Why do I keep following your links? Why are you like this? vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Video_game_industryThis is stuff that literally takes three minutes to look up, as a 'journalist' are you not supposed to be able to do research? I'm curious, what do you believe that links shows? Has any game system ever sold as much as Nintendo NES? Adjusted for inflation? NES sales were so high they might hold up even not adjusted for inflation. Do you have anything at all? At some point I'm not going to follow your links if you can't tell me in your own words what they mean and why they support your argument. Take a look at the NES "Classic," the remake of the original with 30 original games built it. Why do you suppose that happened? Because the other games were doing so well? I don't think so. They were trying to recapture that huge market they once had. |
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Post by general313 on Mar 18, 2018 20:55:25 GMT
I'm curious, what do you believe that links shows? Has any game system ever sold as much as Nintendo NES? Adjusted for inflation? NES sales were so high they might hold up even not adjusted for inflation. Do you have anything at all? This image is prominent at the top of the page.  |
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Post by gadreel on Mar 18, 2018 21:10:51 GMT
I'm curious, what do you believe that links shows? Has any game system ever sold as much as Nintendo NES? Adjusted for inflation? NES sales were so high they might hold up even not adjusted for inflation. Do you have anything at all? At some point I'm not going to follow your links if you can't tell me in your own words what they mean and why they support your argument. Take a look at the NES "Classic," the remake of the original with 30 original games built it. Why do you suppose that happened? Because the other games were doing so well? I don't think so. They were trying to recapture that huge market they once had. The table at the bottom is your clue: 1982 42 Billion (adjusted for inflation) 2017 116 Billion NES is not even in the top 5 consoles. www.tekrevue.com/compared-the-best-selling-video-game-consoles-of-all-time/the reason they brought out the NES classic was so that people of my generation would be able to have a nostalgia kick. Precisely because video games do so well and now more than anticipated in the older demographics (as my generation grows up) they knew they would have a seller on their hands. They are trying to capture the market they once had, but to supplement the much larger profits they are already making on consoles. Tell me do you read anything prior to making these wild claims? |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 19, 2018 2:29:07 GMT
I'm curious, what do you believe that links shows? Has any game system ever sold as much as Nintendo NES? Adjusted for inflation? NES sales were so high they might hold up even not adjusted for inflation. Wikipedia actually has a list of the units sold of each console: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles#Best-selling_game_consoles The only reason NES outsold SNES and N64 was by the time of the latter two Nintendo had competition from Sega (Genesis) and Sony (Playstation). |
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