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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Mar 22, 2018 12:27:20 GMT
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 22, 2018 13:26:37 GMT
Well at least he doesn't have to move too far.
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Post by tristramshandy on Mar 22, 2018 13:31:08 GMT
Called that one. The question is whether UConn or Pitt is a better job going forward.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Mar 22, 2018 13:35:22 GMT
Good for Uconn, good for Hurley, sucks for URI.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Mar 22, 2018 17:22:29 GMT
Question is, is UConn another UNLV? A program that had one run with one coach. They won a title under Kevin Ollie, but it was still Jim Calhoun's team. Like UNLV under Tarkanian, a national power, then one good year after Tark swam away. Connecticut isn't the premier job it once was. Team isn't in the Big East anymore. Stoors, Connecticut isn't exactly a happening place. Everyone thought UConn was a better job than Pitt, exclusive of money.
Sucks for Rhode Island, sucks for the A-10.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Mar 22, 2018 19:35:39 GMT
Question is, is UConn another UNLV? A program that had one run with one coach. They won a title under Kevin Ollie, but it was still Jim Calhoun's team. Like UNLV under Tarkanian, a national power, then one good year after Tark swam away. Connecticut isn't the premier job it once was. Team isn't in the Big East anymore. Stoors, Connecticut isn't exactly a happening place. Everyone thought UConn was a better job than Pitt, exclusive of money. Sucks for Rhode Island, sucks for the A-10. a-10 needs a better tv deal; what are they on, the nbc sports network? |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Mar 22, 2018 20:01:58 GMT
Question is, is UConn another UNLV? A program that had one run with one coach. They won a title under Kevin Ollie, but it was still Jim Calhoun's team. Like UNLV under Tarkanian, a national power, then one good year after Tark swam away. Connecticut isn't the premier job it once was. Team isn't in the Big East anymore. Stoors, Connecticut isn't exactly a happening place. Everyone thought UConn was a better job than Pitt, exclusive of money. Sucks for Rhode Island, sucks for the A-10. a-10 needs a better tv deal; what are they on, the nbc sports network? Yeah, NBC, usually streaming if the English Premier League isn't playing. Or Rugby I hate to say it, but the Atlantic 10 is a mid major. Granted, one of the better middies, but the days of thinking the A-10 was a power conference is done. Calipari and John Chaney are gone. The A-10 ranked 11th in the RPI Conference rankings. Below the Missouri Valley and Mid-American. Losing Temple hurt badly. They do have schools in big cities, New York, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Washington. And no dominant team. No UNC, no Kansas, no UCLA. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 22, 2018 20:17:19 GMT
Question is, is UConn another UNLV? A program that had one run with one coach. They won a title under Kevin Ollie, but it was still Jim Calhoun's team. Like UNLV under Tarkanian, a national power, then one good year after Tark swam away. Connecticut isn't the premier job it once was. Team isn't in the Big East anymore. Stoors, Connecticut isn't exactly a happening place. Everyone thought UConn was a better job than Pitt, exclusive of money. Sucks for Rhode Island, sucks for the A-10. My thoughts exactly. The only real draw was Calhoun. Now if they want to recruit, they can point to championships won by Calhoun's teams and...the women's team? I mean what's the draw? Storrs is in the absolute middle of nowhere, and I thought Amherst, MA was a basketball backwater. |
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Post by marsexplorer on Mar 22, 2018 21:02:30 GMT
Called that one. The question is whether UConn or Pitt is a better job going forward. Why would anyone want the Pitt job? They finished 0-18 in the ACC this year and now 8 players have been granted a release from their scholarships. Sure, a new coach can go in and build his own team immediately, but there isn't a cornerstone to build it on. It will take years for Pitt to be competitive in the ACC again, if ever. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Mar 22, 2018 21:08:30 GMT
Question is, is UConn another UNLV? A program that had one run with one coach. They won a title under Kevin Ollie, but it was still Jim Calhoun's team. Like UNLV under Tarkanian, a national power, then one good year after Tark swam away. Connecticut isn't the premier job it once was. Team isn't in the Big East anymore. Stoors, Connecticut isn't exactly a happening place. Everyone thought UConn was a better job than Pitt, exclusive of money. Sucks for Rhode Island, sucks for the A-10. My thoughts exactly. The only real draw was Calhoun. Now if they want to recruit, they can point to championships won by Calhoun's teams and...the women's team? I mean what's the draw? Storrs is in the absolute middle of nowhere, and I thought Amherst, MA was a basketball backwater. UConn is in a more happening locale than Penn State. Stoors is a short ways away from Hartford. Penn State is a million miles away from anywhere. I'm not saying Hurley jumped onto a sinking ship. Like you said, those four banners hanging from the rafters is a powerful recruiting tool. And schools can regain their glory. Duke was second rate between the '78 title game and Krzyzewski 1986 team. If UConn was in the ACC or Big East, maybe. The AAC is a good conference. Cincinnati, Wichita State, Houston is rising, Memphis might turn around under Penny Hardaway. But you still have Tulsa, East Carolina, South Florida. Pitt has no banners (to speak of), no history, bleaker future. But the have the AAC. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Mar 22, 2018 21:34:22 GMT
Called that one. The question is whether UConn or Pitt is a better job going forward. Why would anyone want the Pitt job? They finished 0-18 in the ACC this year and now 8 players have been granted a release from their scholarships. Sure, a new coach can go in and build his own team immediately, but there isn't a cornerstone to build it on. It will take years for Pitt to be competitive in the ACC again, if ever. Pitt is an ACC school. They have struggled in the conference but they were doormats in the Big East until they hired the right coach, Ben Howland. It's a big boon to sell recruits on playing against Duke and North Carolina instead of East Carolina and Tulsa. It won't be easy for whoever they hire. I'm betting Univ. of Buffalo coach Nate Oats (sigh). Oats and Washington coach Mike Hopkins are the two main candidates, not that Hurley and Tom Crean are off the board. I'm not sure if Hopkins will want to coach in the same conference as Syracuse, he was an assistant at Syracuse for a thousand years and the heir apparent until Boeheim decided he would coach until he's 110 years old. |
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Post by marsexplorer on Mar 23, 2018 2:58:07 GMT
Why would anyone want the Pitt job? They finished 0-18 in the ACC this year and now 8 players have been granted a release from their scholarships. Sure, a new coach can go in and build his own team immediately, but there isn't a cornerstone to build it on. It will take years for Pitt to be competitive in the ACC again, if ever. Pitt is an ACC school. They have struggled in the conference but they were doormats in the Big East until they hired the right coach, Ben Howland. It's a big boon to sell recruits on playing against Duke and North Carolina instead of East Carolina and Tulsa. It won't be easy for whoever they hire. I'm betting Univ. of Buffalo coach Nate Oats (sigh). Oats and Washington coach Mike Hopkins are the two main candidates, not that Hurley and Tom Crean are off the board. I'm not sure if Hopkins will want to coach in the same conference as Syracuse, he was an assistant at Syracuse for a thousand years and the heir apparent until Boeheim decided he would coach until he's 110 years old. I don't know. For me, personally, I would rather play for a good mid-major that has a shot at making the tournament and possibly make some noise than play for a laughing stock of the ACC. |
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Post by tristramshandy on Mar 23, 2018 4:39:05 GMT
Pitt is an ACC school. They have struggled in the conference but they were doormats in the Big East until they hired the right coach, Ben Howland. It's a big boon to sell recruits on playing against Duke and North Carolina instead of East Carolina and Tulsa. It won't be easy for whoever they hire. I'm betting Univ. of Buffalo coach Nate Oats (sigh). Oats and Washington coach Mike Hopkins are the two main candidates, not that Hurley and Tom Crean are off the board. I'm not sure if Hopkins will want to coach in the same conference as Syracuse, he was an assistant at Syracuse for a thousand years and the heir apparent until Boeheim decided he would coach until he's 110 years old. I don't know. For me, personally, I would rather play for a good mid-major that has a shot at making the tournament and possibly make some noise than play for a laughing stock of the ACC. AAC has some good teams, but it is a complete mutt of a league. I'm not sure how you sell your program in Connecticut to play teams in Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Louisiana - - Temple is the closest thing they have to a "rival" and how often have they ever played one another? If I was a New England kid and wanted to stay in the region, I'd pick Boston College or Providence over UConn now. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Mar 23, 2018 5:22:38 GMT
Pitt is an ACC school. They have struggled in the conference but they were doormats in the Big East until they hired the right coach, Ben Howland. It's a big boon to sell recruits on playing against Duke and North Carolina instead of East Carolina and Tulsa. It won't be easy for whoever they hire. I'm betting Univ. of Buffalo coach Nate Oats (sigh). Oats and Washington coach Mike Hopkins are the two main candidates, not that Hurley and Tom Crean are off the board. I'm not sure if Hopkins will want to coach in the same conference as Syracuse, he was an assistant at Syracuse for a thousand years and the heir apparent until Boeheim decided he would coach until he's 110 years old. I don't know. For me, personally, I would rather play for a good mid-major that has a shot at making the tournament and possibly make some noise than play for a laughing stock of the ACC. Not sure I’d call Pitt a laughingstock yet. They were this year but Stallings was as idiot. I can put them in a class with Rutgers or DePaul. And the right coach can do wonders. Georgia Tech WAS the laughingstock of the ACC before they hired Bobby Cremins. Hurley can be Pitt’s Cremins. And the ceiling is higher in the ACC than the AAC. UConn has to fight the ghost of Calhoun and play second fiddle to the ladies. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 23, 2018 11:52:21 GMT
My thoughts exactly. The only real draw was Calhoun. Now if they want to recruit, they can point to championships won by Calhoun's teams and...the women's team? I mean what's the draw? Storrs is in the absolute middle of nowhere, and I thought Amherst, MA was a basketball backwater. UConn is in a more happening locale than Penn State. Stoors is a short ways away from Hartford. Penn State is a million miles away from anywhere. I'm not saying Hurley jumped onto a sinking ship. Like you said, those four banners hanging from the rafters is a powerful recruiting tool. And schools can regain their glory. Duke was second rate between the '78 title game and Krzyzewski 1986 team. If UConn was in the ACC or Big East, maybe. The AAC is a good conference. Cincinnati, Wichita State, Houston is rising, Memphis might turn around under Penny Hardaway. But you still have Tulsa, East Carolina, South Florida. Pitt has no banners (to speak of), no history, bleaker future. But the have the AAC. Sure, but Hartford? The most interesting thing in Hartford is the Mark Twain House (but then I'm a dork so I'm the wrong guy to ask). But yeah a championship history is a great recruiting tool-- more than UMass has to offer, to go back to my earlier comparison. Storrs is actually a great little town if you're into that kind of thing (I'm a small town guy), but the locale can't be the draw for recruits. It's the tradition and the conference for sure. |
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