Can WB create a successful DC franchise before its too late?

I know that without a movie theater subscription, I wouldn't be paying money to watch DCU movies anymore. I can only imagine what general audiences are thinking about the DCU right now.

James Wan is yet to make a movie that really sucks. WB suits will prove a stern test for him.

I really hope the underwater scenes are done better than in JL. Can you imagine if they aren't?!

WB has historically always managed to self-destruct every CBM series its' put out one way or another.

The Donner Superman movies? Only the first one was really any good since Superman II had too many characterization flaws, while SMIII and Quest for Peace ended things.

The Batman movies? Good until the Studio intervened and we got Batman and Robin.

The Nolan Movies? Good for their time, but WB messed up the popularity they created with the DCEU.

I hate to break it to you but they already have a successful franchise. Even though they were critically panned the majority of movies in the DCEU have been box office successes as many journalists have pointed out which is why they keep releasing more movies. A lot of film makers would love to have the Box Office figures the DCEU is getting for its movies and until they have one that majorly underperforms and makes under $100 million worldwide I don't see it ending anytime soon.

Uh TDK trilogy is the best comic book trilogy of ALL TIME (the MCU still can't touch it) . So yes, WB/DC has made a successful franchise .  I do agree that overall, the DCEU pretty much sucks though.  With the exception of WW.    Its very sad but lets not act like WB hasn't made any good DC films.   Nolan's trilogy is aces. 

What MCU films have "beaten" TDK in terms of quality & prestige?   Just curious cause I can't think of a single one .    Keep in mind, I dig some of the MCU films (esp the Cap films)  but the directors aren't given as much creative freedom as Nolan had with his trilogy . 
and also, TDK did not need a dead actor to propel it .  Thats just silly talk.    The Joker is a flat out very popular villain .    And Ledger was dynamite as him .   Well deserved Oscar .    Wish I could say the same for the MCU villains but I can't .  lol. 

do you Marvel fanboys really have to use "shit" or bed-shitting in every line? That aside, if you could think you would realise:

- That DC have invented the the CBM genre (Feige says it too, ask him)

- They have the biggest most revered movies such as the Nolan or Donner films. Eg Nolan is in every Top 10 triligy ranking unlike any MCU, and his films are top in the top 250 list (TDK at 4!).

- They have the most successful popular CBM shows.

- Not to forget, even the 5 DCEU films so far have received Oscars and Awards unlike MCU. WW is even a "curse breaker" and considered a historic achievement.

Don't forget DC is a multiverse with numerous Flash, Supes or Batmans running around since decades; DCEU is not MCU which just started a decade ago and has only one single IM, Cap etc. This also means that MCU will deflate some time (my guess after infinity wars and the big guys leaving) and the hype will turn in annoyance (on the net people hate the dull "Marveltards" a lot), while Batman and Co will always be there. You will see...

This is a straw man and beside the point. And lol, it's a very silly and invalid analogy - the analogy is more DC invented modern fast food franchising, and MCU are currently running the most profitable junk food chain.

But yes, DC have invented the modern blockbuster CBM (with Superman, then Batman), and they also have the CBMs held in the highest regards by the general public. Just check the relevant popularity charts like IMDB (even now with MCU peaking the DC films are higher lol, what will happen when the bubble bursts?) or all the "Best CBM trilogy/CBM" charts.    

LOL, only in your fantasy. Generally, these films are considered forumalic CBM junk food sticking closely to their comic book roots. The films that push were Nolan, Logan, Watchmen or WW but certainly not MCU.  

Jesus, you are being deliberately obtuse? How about first ever successful female-led CBM? The few before were huge flops on all levels. That is curse breaking  for you.  

Cry me a salty river, pal. If you don't care about Oscars, what about beting every MCU movie this year at the prestigeous Critics Choice Award 2017 or at AFI (Movie of thr Year) etc? Sure that would mean something to you if MCU movies would have won, lol.

Yes it is. It has currently several variation of the same character, eg. DCEU Supes, Arrowverse Supes, Animated Universe Supes etc. Not to speak of all the past manifestations.

No it is not. This is a shared universe, like MCU.

That is indicated by the term "multiverse", genius.

That's just being nice to the folks who keep self-destructing. Everytime DC started something, they always ended up destroying it.



Due to the Nostalgia for Donner and Nolan having a dead actor boosting him.



Nope, MCU dominates there too. CW can't compete.



WW broke a curse WB itself created, so that's no victory. And the MCU doesn't get Oscars due to thumbing their nose at the Academy rather than pander to them.



In other words, lazy.



We'll see your arguments fall flat, as usual. People are waking up to Comic characters being more than flat archetypes (Batman, Superman) and WB has tarnished the brand recognition so names alone won't impress people. MCU has people thinking "Huh, these guys are interesting without being archetypes."