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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 26, 2018 21:03:06 GMT
How do you know that? Also, haven’t you previously stated that there are virtually no critiques of the movie, on the count of Heath Ledger’s death? Because I know how fanatical Nolanites are. I said there were no critiques that could be made without said person immediately being swarmed by Nolanites who wouldn't stand for that. Like pointing out how Dent's "Die a Hero or inevitably become a villain" thing has been defied by several real world people. Sounds like you’re making assumptions. There will be fans jumping to a movie’s defense anytime you critique a popular movie. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 26, 2018 21:06:49 GMT
When compared to the 1st 2. People saw it as a drop off in comparison. But that still goes with what I'm saying. TDKR is rated pretty highly on RT and IMDB from both critics and audience members. It has some vocal detractors but to say that it wasn’t well received is just plain dishonest. "When compared to the 1st 2. People saw it as a drop off in comparison. But that still goes with what I'm saying." -ThatGuy, 2018 Also, why is it when a movie you like gets high scores you champion those scores, but when the movie you like gets low scores that's not indicative of the movie? |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 26, 2018 21:09:19 GMT
TDKR is rated pretty highly on RT and IMDB from both critics and audience members. It has some vocal detractors but to say that it wasn’t well received is just plain dishonest. "When compared to the 1st 2. People saw it as a drop off in comparison. But that still goes with what I'm saying." -ThatGuy, 2018 The movie’s IMDB score is at an 8.4 (higher than Begins) and it’s critic score is an 87% with an 8/10 average rating (also higher than Begins) . |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 26, 2018 21:10:42 GMT
Because I know how fanatical Nolanites are. I said there were no critiques that could be made without said person immediately being swarmed by Nolanites who wouldn't stand for that. Like pointing out how Dent's "Die a Hero or inevitably become a villain" thing has been defied by several real world people. Sounds like you’re making assumptions. There will be fans jumping to a movie’s defense anytime you critique a popular movie. Even if it's an assumption, it's one based on experience with that kind of fanbase. Then tell me, why does Zemo in Civil War get criticized but Joker rarely does? |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 26, 2018 21:15:34 GMT
Sounds like you’re making assumptions. There will be fans jumping to a movie’s defense anytime you critique a popular movie. Even if it's an assumption, it's one based on experience with that kind of fanbase. Then tell me, why does Zemo in Civil War get criticized but Joker rarely does? I really don’t understand why you’re so caught up on Zemo. CW is still a well received movie and successful movie. Both movies have been criticized for having villains with convoluted plans, but neither movie is considered bad because of that. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 26, 2018 22:05:42 GMT
Even if it's an assumption, it's one based on experience with that kind of fanbase. Then tell me, why does Zemo in Civil War get criticized but Joker rarely does? I really don’t understand why you’re so caught up on Zemo. CW is still a well received movie and successful movie. Both movies have been criticized for having villains with convoluted plans, but neither movie is considered bad because of that. Because most were fine with Joker being omnipotent, but Zemo is usually singled out as a flaw with CW for how he pulled off his plan. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 26, 2018 22:09:39 GMT
I really don’t understand why you’re so caught up on Zemo. CW is still a well received movie and successful movie. Both movies have been criticized for having villains with convoluted plans, but neither movie is considered bad because of that. Because most were fine with Joker being omnipotent, but Zemo is usually singled out as a flaw with CW for how he pulled off his plan. Again, CW is a well received movie. The majority of people didn’t consider his plan to be a detriment to the film in any signficant way. If you’re mad that Zemo doesn’t get praised as much as the Joker, that’s because he’s not seen as being as good of a villain. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 26, 2018 22:45:54 GMT
Because most were fine with Joker being omnipotent, but Zemo is usually singled out as a flaw with CW for how he pulled off his plan. Again, CW is a well received movie. The majority of people didn’t consider his plan to be a detriment to the film in any signficant way. If you’re mad that Zemo doesn’t get praised as much as the Joker, that’s because he’s not seen as being as good of a villain. No, it's that Joker gets excuses like "Well, it fits the themes of the movie he be omnipotent" but Zemo gets "He shouldn't be able to do this stuff". |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 26, 2018 23:14:31 GMT
Again, CW is a well received movie. The majority of people didn’t consider his plan to be a detriment to the film in any signficant way. If you’re mad that Zemo doesn’t get praised as much as the Joker, that’s because he’s not seen as being as good of a villain. No, it's that Joker gets excuses like "Well, it fits the themes of the movie he be omnipotent" but Zemo gets "He shouldn't be able to do this stuff". We’ve gone down this road countless times before, but the Joker wasn’t omnipotent. His plan ultimately failed. People don’t spend their time endlessly harping on his plans being convoluted because he’s considered a great villain. That’s all there is to it. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 26, 2018 23:52:24 GMT
No, it's that Joker gets excuses like "Well, it fits the themes of the movie he be omnipotent" but Zemo gets "He shouldn't be able to do this stuff". We’ve gone down this road countless times before, but the Joker wasn’t omnipotent. His plan ultimately failed. People don’t spend their time endlessly harping on his plans being convoluted because he’s considered a great villain. That’s all there is to it. So, simple bias then? |
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Post by jakesully on Mar 27, 2018 1:02:15 GMT
Uh TDK trilogy is the best comic book trilogy of ALL TIME (the MCU still can't touch it) . So yes, WB/DC has made a successful franchise . I do agree that overall, the DCEU pretty much sucks though. With the exception of WW. Its very sad but lets not act like WB hasn't made any good DC films. Nolan's trilogy is aces. Black Panther, Winter Soldier, Iron Man 3 and Age of Ultron slay Nolan's trilogy quite easily imo. Well thats like your opinion man . And seriously?! You're putting IM3 & Age of Ultron ahead of BB & TDK  ? lol maybe if you are going by box office results I guess. TDK got much better reviews than Age of Ultron & come on, IM3 is so fucking terrible with a laughably bad twist. Keep in mind, I do dig the Cap films though but even those can't touch the prestige / love of TDK trilogy films . Check the IMDB ratings for TDK films . The people have spoken  |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Mar 27, 2018 1:06:14 GMT
 do you Marvel fanboys really have to use "shit" or bed-shitting in every line? That aside, if you could think you would realise: - That DC have invented the the CBM genre (Feige says it too, ask him) - They have the biggest most revered movies such as the Nolan or Donner films. Eg Nolan is in every Top 10 triligy ranking unlike any MCU, and his films are top in the top 250 list (TDK at 4!). - They have the most successful popular CBM shows. - Not to forget, even the 5 DCEU films so far have received Oscars and Awards unlike MCU. WW is even a "curse breaker" and considered a historic achievement. Don't forget DC is a multiverse with numerous Flash, Supes or Batmans running around since decades; DCEU is not MCU which just started a decade ago and has only one single IM, Cap etc. This also means that MCU will deflate some time (my guess after infinity wars and the big guys leaving) and the hype will turn in annoyance (on the net people hate the dull "Marveltards" a lot), while Batman and Co will always be there. You will see...  Ah so you’re a DC fanboy, that explains it all. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 27, 2018 1:55:30 GMT
Black Panther, Winter Soldier, Iron Man 3 and Age of Ultron slay Nolan's trilogy quite easily imo. Well thats like your opinion man . And seriously?! You're putting IM3 & Age of Ultron ahead of BB & TDK ? lol maybe if you are going by box office results I guess. TDK got much better reviews than Age of Ultron & come on, IM3 is so fucking terrible with a laughably bad twist. Keep in mind, I do dig the Cap films though but even those can't touch the prestige / love of TDK trilogy films . Check the IMDB ratings for TDK films . The people have spoken And there's a big booster for those IMDB scores... |
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? lol maybe if you are going by box office results I guess. TDK got much better reviews than Age of Ultron & come on, IM3 is so fucking terrible with a laughably bad twist. 
