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Post by jervistetch on May 19, 2018 23:49:23 GMT
Sorry moviebuffbradI meant to get back to you. I am REALLY bad at solving these mysteries. I was quite impressed with all of your deductions. I so wanted to contribute something to your theory but came up with nothing. And then I completely forgot about it! I must admit that I am stumped, too. But I think you're closing in on the killer. Don't give up. |
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Post by alfromni on Sept 19, 2018 9:55:58 GMT
Nalkarj --- I've been going back to this periodically, and I have to admit it's got me totally beat. Duh!
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Whodunit?
Jan 14, 2019 9:05:43 GMT
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 14, 2019 9:05:43 GMT
Nalkarj Just gave this another read. Here's a few more scenarios: Much of the story is framed in a way to make the wife look like she's being set up and too obvious, which could be a clever way to throw us off track. I now believe she could be involved, with a partner. The partner fired a shot outside (thus no smoke in the room/why witnesses saw a perp outside). Probably a gun stolen from the big game hunter (thus the strange steps he heard) while the actual gun at the scene is the husband's. This would all give the wife a plausible alibi.
Said partner could be Crane, which is why he couldn't hear the couple argue in the conservatory, which you said is significant. Also, he said he was reading a paper, while the big game hunter said the husband was doing the same thing when he died. Possible clue.
On that note, I wrote off Crane acting alone before because it seemed too sinple (and I was also determined to prove the niece did it), but sometimes the simplest answer is the correct one. Alone or with a partner, I keep coming back to him, so I'm pretty certain he's involved one way or another. But with the wife would somewhat explain the shot heard as above, which I'm otherwise still stuck on.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 14, 2019 16:14:46 GMT
Lordy, it’s been a long time since I looked at this, moviebuffbrad, alfromni. But, Brad, suffice it to say you’ve been getting so close to my solution for a long time. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 14, 2019 18:43:37 GMT
Lordy, it’s been a long time since I looked at this, moviebuffbrad, alfromni. But, Brad, suffice it to say you’ve been getting so close to my solution for a long time. But not quite there yet? |
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Whodunit?
Jan 14, 2019 20:50:27 GMT
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 14, 2019 20:50:27 GMT
Nalkarj Is it significant that the wife does not mention seeing the hunter in the billards room?
And just to verify, my last post was closer to the money than I was before right?
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 14, 2019 21:00:55 GMT
Nalkarj Is it significant that the wife does not mention seeing the hunter in the billards room?
And just to verify, my last post was closer to the money than I was before right? 1. No. 2. Yes. But you were close early on. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 14, 2019 21:35:30 GMT
Nalkarj Is it significant that the wife does not mention seeing the hunter in the billards room?
And just to verify, my last post was closer to the money than I was before right? 1. No. 2. Yes. But you were close early on. Hmm. Back to the shot only the author apparently heard, could he and Crane have planned the murder, with Crane being the gunman and the author being the "witness", only a scuffle broke out and Crane resorted to stabbing Sir Reginald? The author, not knowing this, would stick to the scripted version of events where he heard a shot and found the wife with the gun. Or am I getting colder? |
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Whodunit?
Jan 17, 2019 20:27:38 GMT
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 17, 2019 20:27:38 GMT
Bump for Nalkarj If not this last theory, maybe I had it right before that. Maybe it was just Crane alone. 🤔 |
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 19, 2019 0:26:45 GMT
moviebuffbrad, I’ve refrained from answering because you pretty much have it but just don’t have all the clues. I can tell the answer if you’d like—I’d definitely count it, if this were a whodunit-game, as a win for you.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 19, 2019 1:27:15 GMT
moviebuffbrad, I’ve refrained from answering because you pretty much have it but just don’t have all the clues. I can tell the answer if you’d like—I’d definitely count it, if this were a whodunit-game, as a win for you. Hmm. Any way you can tell me the parts I do have and I can try to fill in the blanks? Unless you're over the whole thing and just want to move on.  |
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 19, 2019 1:55:56 GMT
moviebuffbrad , I’ve refrained from answering because you pretty much have it but just don’t have all the clues. I can tell the answer if you’d like—I’d definitely count it, if this were a whodunit-game, as a win for you. Hmm. Any way you can tell me the parts I do have and I can try to fill in the blanks? Unless you're over the whole thing and just want to move on. Heh. There’s that too. I think I have all the clues I wrote out somewhere around here, but if I can’t find it I hope I remember everything. You’re right that the murderer is Prof. Lyle (the Ichabod Crane-like character).
The point of the exercise was originally supposed to be that you were supposed to think (as a red herring) that “you,” the mystery author, were the killer. I’m not sure that really worked.
You pointed out the main clue, the secret-passageways, right away. You got it very quickly. But why could it only be the Professor? You also picked up on the gun being fired outside the room and then thrown in through the window. |
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Whodunit?
Jan 19, 2019 6:07:22 GMT
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 19, 2019 6:07:22 GMT
Hmm. Any way you can tell me the parts I do have and I can try to fill in the blanks? Unless you're over the whole thing and just want to move on. Heh. There’s that too. I think I have all the clues I wrote out somewhere around here, but if I can’t find it I hope I remember everything. You’re right that the murderer is Prof. Lyle (the Ichabod Crane-like character).
The point of the exercise was originally supposed to be that you were supposed to think (as a red herring) that “you,” the mystery author, were the killer. I’m not sure that really worked.
You pointed out the main clue, the secret-passageways, right away. You got it very quickly. But why could it only be the Professor? You also picked up on the gun being fired outside the room and then thrown in through the window. Well, I didn't quite get the last one. I guessed the gun was fired outside, but not thrown back through the window. The original plot said the gun found hadn't been fired at all, so I worked out a theory that that gun was Sir Reginald's and that Crane fired a different one (probably the game hunter's).
As for why it could only be Lyle...well, the passageway stuff. Everyone else is mostly accounted for with other witnesses. The fact that his alibi was reading a paper, which was also what Reginald was doing. He had a motive in running the museum, and perhaps the "paper" he was reading and Reginald was signing had to do with the museum (I just looked up Aloysius N. Melchizedek and they don't seem to actually exist, seemingly a combination of two noted religious figures). The game hunter said he knows his friend and family's footsteps and Lyle is neither. Don't know what I'm forgetting.
I assume the detective arrests the author. I didn't even really consider him a suspect until that last post. I thought the red herring was the Irish guy. |
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