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Post by James on Mar 25, 2018 14:00:13 GMT
This may seem repetitive, but who here is able to rank TWD seasons from their favourite to least favourite? Mine would go:
1 3 5 4 2 6 7 8 (so far)
Since season 6, this show has been going a bit downhill. Hell, I barely remember what even happened in S8, and it's the one that's meant to have the most freshness in my mind. S1, although not as action-packed or fast-paced, was still the best because it knew how to manage its storytelling with even only 6 episodes, as opposed to the current series' runtime of 16 eps. With that being said, I still love this show, and I always expect something great to come out of it, even if it's looking pretty stale in its current state.
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Post by redpyramidthing on Mar 25, 2018 21:09:50 GMT
1 2 3 5 4 6
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Post by James on Mar 26, 2018 1:14:40 GMT
That big drop between 6 and 7 is about right.
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Post by redpyramidthing on Mar 26, 2018 9:10:13 GMT
That big drop between 6 and 7 is about right. Probably there should be a small drop between 7 and 8 too...
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Post by jriddle73 on Mar 26, 2018 20:08:11 GMT
That's easy. The correct answer:
1 4
Everything else.
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Post by jriddle73 on Mar 26, 2018 20:09:52 GMT
That big drop between 6 and 7 is about right. Probably there should be a small drop between 7 and 8 too... There's no basis for differentiating either of those from, for example, season 3.
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Post by DSDSquared on Apr 2, 2018 13:27:47 GMT
How is season one the best season? Seriously? The pilot was amazing, but it was all over the place and had some stinkers. Season 3 is not just the best season, it is BY FAR the best season.
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Post by jriddle73 on Apr 2, 2018 17:57:55 GMT
How is season one the best season? Seriously? The pilot was amazing, but it was all over the place and had some stinkers. Season 3 is not just the best season, it is BY FAR the best season. Season 1 has some dodgy stuff but it has the pilot film, which stands over the rest of the series like a god over ants. In all, it lay the groundwork for what could have been one of the great tv shows of an era noted for same. Then, of course, all of that was squandered with season 2. As for season 3, it was by far the dumbest overrall season, to the point that it became little more than a series of random events. Hershel, arguably the group's single most important human asset, loses a leg. Our heroes are low on medical supplies and acknowledge that they must find the prison infirmary if he is to have any chance of surviving, then no one does a thing to find that infirmary. Most of the men go off on the ever-important business of helping the prisoners clear a new place to sleep, never asking any of them about the infirmary, while the others sit around looking long-faced and having Lifetime moments over the fallen fellow, servicing that viewer demographic. Even Hershel's own daughters don't do anything to find the infirmary, nor do they once try to organize any action toward this end. Maggie tells Hershel it's ok if he wants to lay there and die! It's left to Coral to go off on his own initiative and find the infirmary, off camera. When he returns, he's berated for this by his awful mother. Next, a weasely prisoner Andrew, who was earlier eaten by the dead, somehow comes back. He opens up the gates and doors of the prison and is luring the dead inside. He sets off the prison's horns, which can be heard for miles around. His goal, it turns out, is to have the dead overrun the prison and kill everyone so that he and his previously fellow inmates, who are also inside and would also be killed by the flesh-eaters, can retake it--their "home," he calls it--for themselves. This formed the premise of an entire episode that killed off two regular characters. Rick had barely spoken to his awful wife in over 8 months but when she dies, he's so upset by this--the death of a woman he had long ago emotionally abandoned--that he goes foaming-at-the-mouth, hilariously over-the-top-of-the-top Stark Raving Mad. Carol is missing and she's immediately declared dead without even a search. In the next ep, it gets even better. With the prison entirely overrun by zombies, most of the gates and doors opened by the villainous Andrew presumably still standing open for every new creature that shuffles along, a potential army of the dead on its way there because of those horns, their leader out of his mind and Carol missing, all of the remaining able-bodied adults immediately decide their most pressing priority is to make a run into the outside world to try to find baby formula, leaving the baby about whom they're so concerned behind in their now zombie-overrun home in the care of a crippled old man (who is stuck in the yard and can't even sit down or get out of the sun), a child, a lunatic and two unarmed former prisoners they don't even trust. Glenn ultimately stays behind only because Daryl can't fit three people on his motorcycle. They need formula because in 9 months of pregnancy, neither Lori nor anyone else has acquired any. We're told that in all those months of searching, they couldn't find any; Maggie then finds some in the first place she looks. Glenn goes out in the hot sun to dig three graves, which are then just filled in without bodies (T-Dog was eaten, no one acquires Lori's body, so it, too, is eaten--clothes, skull, pelvis, everything, by a single zombie--and Carol is missing, not dead). Later in the season, the group breaks their people out of Woodbury. They acknowledge that a strike-force could be and probably is heading for the prison and could be there at any moment. This is the pressing concern at the moment--an army that will attack and kill all of us--but with that immediate threat over them, they all just dick around for two episodes, doing virtually nothing to prepare. Twice on the way back from Woodbury, they come to a complete stop and just stand around hashing out their emotional issues--no sense of urgency at all. When they get back to the prison, they do what TWD does most often (and badly)--they stand around and talk, talk, talk instead of doing anything. Hershel suggests packing up and running, a very bad idea that is immediately vetoed. Glenn suggests a better one--returning with Michonne to Woodbury to assassinate GINO. Hershel objects and the notion is abandoned almost immediately. Rick goes off to beat around the bushes outside for the ghost of his awful wife and Glenn tries to step up, assume a leadership role and get everyone prepared for war but neither the very real threat they face nor his harping on it ever manages to inspire any real sense of urgency. Glenn rhetorically bellows "Who's on watch?" As he'd realized, no one is, and as the episode continues, no one bothers to take the watch either. Everyone just sort of stands around, metaphorical thumbs buried in metaphorical orifices. Glenn assigns Carol and Axel to setting up some barricades, which they do in a leisurely manner that suggests they couldn't possibly care less. There's a breach somewhere in the prison that is allowing the dead entrance; in all their time there, they haven't bothered to try to track it down. Glenn picks Maggie to ride shotgun on his recon of the perimeter, something else this group of geniuses had never even bothered to do (the fence is down on the other side of the facility and there is a hole in the wall--all news to them). Maggie can't be bothered though, because she's busy pretending as if his being furious over GINO threatening her is some sort of thing at which she should take great offense. She angrily slaps him away and refuses to help. Hershel trudges out and tells Glenn his anger is going to get him killed. No one wants to be bothered and the underlying implication is that Glenn is being a dick by even trying to get them to take the matter seriously. Then the attack comes, and after 2 eps of doing basically nothing to prepare, they're caught totally flat-footed. Then, they stand around and don't do anything to prepare for another attack. With another imminent, Rick, their leader, decides to leave and go on a run for guns and ammo. He doesn't try to find them in the immediate area; instead, he undertakes an incredibly long and dangerous drive across half the state, through dozens of towns that would have plentiful weapons and ammo, to return to his hometown for weapons he, himself, already cleaned out back in the pilot. Still later, Rick has a sit-down with GINO, who tells Rick right up front that there will be no negotiations. Rick can solve all of his problems by simply shooting GINO on sight, but instead, they sit and look at one another for an hour, eating up yet another episode. GINO offers to back off if they turn over Michonne, and Rick, though acknowledging from the jump that this won't save them, decides to do it anyway. There was also the Michonne/Andrea/GINO plot, which is a direct repeat of the Dale/Andrea/Shane plot from S2--the scenes themselves are virtually duplicated. Michonne begins to learn things about GINO and Woodbury. She finds bullet-holes and blood on those National Guard vehicles, which contradicted the story GINO had told; she confronts him about it and he feeds her a line of comically false bullshit; she discovers that GINO is keeping zombies in pens and even encounters their keeper, who was about to feed them--presumably, the bodies of the just-killed Guardsmen; and so on. As she learns these things, she's constantly urging Andrea to leave with her but because the writers want to drag out the plot and have Andrea stay, Michonne gets stupid and refuses to tell Andrea of any of these things she's seen, chalking her apprehensions up to just a bad feeling. It happens over and over again. Michonne refuses to be forthcoming with this information even when Andrea directly demands it. Michonne even leaves, never telling Andrea any of this and abandoning her to whatever goes on at Woodbury. Andrea, as the season continues, remains blind to GINO's insanity and the threat he poses, no matter what happens. She's written as a grown woman in her 40s who, even when it's a matter of life and death for perhaps dozens of people (including all of her living friends), just can't get over an utterly inexplicable school-girl crush on a raving, psychotic animal who shows evidence of not a single appealing characteristic, and that's how she spent the season. When she finally decides to leave, she runs off, and in order to dedicate an entire episode to GINO chasing her (TWD had no writing at this time, and had to stretch those plots as much as they could), the distance to the prison, which, only a few eps earlier, had been established as a short walk for Andrea while she was wrangling a zombie is suddenly one that takes her something in the neighborhood of 24 hours or more to run. Need I even discuss Andrea's subsequent death? Tied to a chair while locked in a room with a guy who is gravely injured and bleeding out, she has a pair of pliers she can use to free herself but spends most of the ep talking to the dying guy instead of doing so. I can go on and on, but the point is more than made. Season 3 was absolutely idiotic in every particular, topping even Rick's zombie parade a few years ago. The characters were written as too stupid to remember to breath. Pretty much everyone, including most of the hardcore fans, has complained about the abject idiocy of the last three eps. In season 3, nearly every ep was like that.
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Post by DSDSquared on Apr 2, 2018 18:22:41 GMT
How is season one the best season? Seriously? The pilot was amazing, but it was all over the place and had some stinkers. Season 3 is not just the best season, it is BY FAR the best season. Season 1 has some dodgy stuff but it has the pilot film, which stands over the rest of the series like a god over ants. In all, it lay the groundwork for what could have been one of the great tv shows of an era noted for same. Then, of course, all of that was squandered with season 2. As for season 3, it was by far the dumbest overrall season, to the point that it became little more than a series of random events. Hershel, arguably the group's single most important human asset, loses a leg. Our heroes are low on medical supplies and acknowledge that they must find the prison infirmary if he is to have any chance of surviving, then no one does a thing to find that infirmary. Most of the men go off on the ever-important business of helping the prisoners clear a new place to sleep, never asking any of them about the infirmary, while the others sit around looking long-faced and having Lifetime moments over the fallen fellow, servicing that viewer demographic. Even Hershel's own daughters don't do anything to find the infirmary, nor do they once try to organize any action toward this end. Maggie tells Hershel it's ok if he wants to lay there and die! It's left to Coral to go off on his own initiative and find the infirmary, off camera. When he returns, he's berated for this by his awful mother. Next, a weasely prisoner Andrew, who was earlier eaten by the dead, somehow comes back. He opens up the gates and doors of the prison and is luring the dead inside. He sets off the prison's horns, which can be heard for miles around. His goal, it turns out, is to have the dead overrun the prison and kill everyone so that he and his previously fellow inmates, who are also inside and would also be killed by the flesh-eaters, can retake it--their "home," he calls it--for themselves. This formed the premise of an entire episode that killed off two regular characters. Rick had barely spoken to his awful wife in over 8 months but when she dies, he's so upset by this--the death of a woman he had long ago emotionally abandoned--that he goes foaming-at-the-mouth, hilariously over-the-top-of-the-top Stark Raving Mad. Carol is missing and she's immediately declared dead without even a search. In the next ep, it gets even better. With the prison entirely overrun by zombies, most of the gates and doors opened by the villainous Andrew presumably still standing open for every new creature that shuffles along, a potential army of the dead on its way there because of those horns, their leader out of his mind and Carol missing, all of the remaining able-bodied adults immediately decide their most pressing priority is to make a run into the outside world to try to find baby formula, leaving the baby about whom they're so concerned behind in their now zombie-overrun home in the care of a crippled old man (who is stuck in the yard and can't even sit down or get out of the sun), a child, a lunatic and two unarmed former prisoners they don't even trust. Glenn ultimately stays behind only because Daryl can't fit three people on his motorcycle. They need formula because in 9 months of pregnancy, neither Lori nor anyone else has acquired any. We're told that in all those months of searching, they couldn't find any; Maggie then finds some in the first place she looks. Glenn goes out in the hot sun to dig three graves, which are then just filled in without bodies (T-Dog was eaten, no one acquires Lori's body, so it, too, is eaten--clothes, skull, pelvis, everything, by a single zombie--and Carol is missing, not dead). Later in the season, the group breaks their people out of Woodbury. They acknowledge that a strike-force could be and probably is heading for the prison and could be there at any moment. This is the pressing concern at the moment--an army that will attack and kill all of us--but with that immediate threat over them, they all just dick around for two episodes, doing virtually nothing to prepare. Twice on the way back from Woodbury, they come to a complete stop and just stand around hashing out their emotional issues--no sense of urgency at all. When they get back to the prison, they do what TWD does most often (and badly)--they stand around and talk, talk, talk instead of doing anything. Hershel suggests packing up and running, a very bad idea that is immediately vetoed. Glenn suggests a better one--returning with Michonne to Woodbury to assassinate GINO. Hershel objects and the notion is abandoned almost immediately. Rick goes off to beat around the bushes outside for the ghost of his awful wife and Glenn tries to step up, assume a leadership role and get everyone prepared for war but neither the very real threat they face nor his harping on it ever manages to inspire any real sense of urgency. Glenn rhetorically bellows "Who's on watch?" As he'd realized, no one is, and as the episode continues, no one bothers to take the watch either. Everyone just sort of stands around, metaphorical thumbs buried in metaphorical orifices. Glenn assigns Carol and Axel to setting up some barricades, which they do in a leisurely manner that suggests they couldn't possibly care less. There's a breach somewhere in the prison that is allowing the dead entrance; in all their time there, they haven't bothered to try to track it down. Glenn picks Maggie to ride shotgun on his recon of the perimeter, something else this group of geniuses had never even bothered to do (the fence is down on the other side of the facility and there is a hole in the wall--all news to them). Maggie can't be bothered though, because she's busy pretending as if his being furious over GINO threatening her is some sort of thing at which she should take great offense. She angrily slaps him away and refuses to help. Hershel trudges out and tells Glenn his anger is going to get him killed. No one wants to be bothered and the underlying implication is that Glenn is being a dick by even trying to get them to take the matter seriously. Then the attack comes, and after 2 eps of doing basically nothing to prepare, they're caught totally flat-footed. Then, they stand around and don't do anything to prepare for another attack. With another imminent, Rick, their leader, decides to leave and go on a run for guns and ammo. He doesn't try to find them in the immediate area; instead, he undertakes an incredibly long and dangerous drive across half the state, through dozens of towns that would have plentiful weapons and ammo, to return to his hometown for weapons he, himself, already cleaned out back in the pilot. Still later, Rick has a sit-down with GINO, who tells Rick right up front that there will be no negotiations. Rick can solve all of his problems by simply shooting GINO on sight, but instead, they sit and look at one another for an hour, eating up yet another episode. GINO offers to back off if they turn over Michonne, and Rick, though acknowledging from the jump that this won't save them, decides to do it anyway. There was also the Michonne/Andrea/GINO plot, which is a direct repeat of the Dale/Andrea/Shane plot from S2--the scenes themselves are virtually duplicated. Michonne begins to learn things about GINO and Woodbury. She finds bullet-holes and blood on those National Guard vehicles, which contradicted the story GINO had told; she confronts him about it and he feeds her a line of comically false bullshit; she discovers that GINO is keeping zombies in pens and even encounters their keeper, who was about to feed them--presumably, the bodies of the just-killed Guardsmen; and so on. As she learns these things, she's constantly urging Andrea to leave with her but because the writers want to drag out the plot and have Andrea stay, Michonne gets stupid and refuses to tell Andrea of any of these things she's seen, chalking her apprehensions up to just a bad feeling. It happens over and over again. Michonne refuses to be forthcoming with this information even when Andrea directly demands it. Michonne even leaves, never telling Andrea any of this and abandoning her to whatever goes on at Woodbury. Andrea, as the season continues, remains blind to GINO's insanity and the threat he poses, no matter what happens. She's written as a grown woman in her 40s who, even when it's a matter of life and death for perhaps dozens of people (including all of her living friends), just can't get over an utterly inexplicable school-girl crush on a raving, psychotic animal who shows evidence of not a single appealing characteristic, and that's how she spent the season. When she finally decides to leave, she runs off, and in order to dedicate an entire episode to GINO chasing her (TWD had no writing at this time, and had to stretch those plots as much as they could), the distance to the prison, which, only a few eps earlier, had been established as a short walk for Andrea while she was wrangling a zombie is suddenly one that takes her something in the neighborhood of 24 hours or more to run. Need I even discuss Andrea's subsequent death? Tied to a chair while locked in a room with a guy who is gravely injured and bleeding out, she has a pair of pliers she can use to free herself but spends most of the ep talking to the dying guy instead of doing so. I can go on and on, but the point is more than made. Season 3 was absolutely idiotic in every particular, topping even Rick's zombie parade a few years ago. The characters were written as too stupid to remember to breath. Pretty much everyone, including most of the hardcore fans, has complained about the abject idiocy of the last three eps. In season 3, nearly every ep was like that. This is The Walking Dead. Dumb crap like this happens EVERY season. Heck, the hospital episode in season one with the elderly and the fake gangtas is one of the show's worst episodes. Still, I have watched the entire run of the show 5-6 times and can tell you that Season 3 is the most consistent, quality wise. Most seasons follow this same formula:
Great premiere, followed by filler episodes, great mid season finale, come back to filler episodes, great finale. Season 3 was pretty good throughout and had a lot of standout performances.
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Post by northernlad on Apr 9, 2018 17:26:02 GMT
I don't remember much of the recent seasons, that's how badly the show has lost it's way. I do remember the first 4 seasons really well. So here's my ranking:
2 1 4 3
5 6
7 8
Edited mine, rewatching season 4 right now and forgot how much better it was than season 3. In rewatching Season 3...I forgot how rampant stupidity was that season.
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Post by James on Apr 9, 2018 21:42:19 GMT
I don't remember much of the recent seasons, that's how badly the show has lost it's way. I do remember the first 4 seasons really well. So here's my ranking: 2 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 Yeah they’re becoming very forgettable. I don’t even think I like S8 because of that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 1:14:25 GMT
Well I think I've only rewatched season 1 and 2, and that was years ago, so I won't remember everything too clearly apart from the first few and last few seasons so this probably won't be the most accurate, but here we go. From rough memory:
Season 6 Season 8B (so far) Season 4 Season 2 Season 5 Season 7 Season 1 Season 3 Season 8A
Or something.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 1:16:40 GMT
You're not up to date on Season 8? The last few episodes have been very enjoyable.
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Post by James on Apr 14, 2018 21:44:21 GMT
You're not up to date on Season 8? The last few episodes have been very enjoyable. Yeah, but I still feel it's the weakest thus far. They were okay, I suppose. I don't hate 8 by the way.
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Post by kevin on Apr 16, 2018 8:28:38 GMT
I haven't seen seasons 7 & 8, but out of the first 6:
1. Season 1 2. Season 3 3. Season 5 4. Season 2 5. Season 4 6. Season 6
The pilot episode of season 1 remains one of the most iconic and best pilots in tv history. Season 1 is my favorite season. There was a lot of momentum to the story, the characters were great and it felt like the whole zombie apocalypse actually was stil solvable (now it looks like this show will never end). None of the other seasons showed the zombie horror aspect as well as season 1. I stopped watching after season 6. It went downhill during that season and it's a shame, because the first 4 episodes of season 6 are incredible. I think those first 4 episodes together (First Time Again, JSS, Thank You, Here's Not Here) make the best pack of subsequent episodes of the entire show and one of the only times where TWD looked like it might be able to compete again with today's most acclaimed shows. If only the other episodes were this good. Maybe I'll watch season 7 or 8 when I don't have anything else to watch or if season 9 turns out to be fantastic, but I'm not counting on it. I did hear pretty good things about the second part of season 8.
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Post by James on Apr 16, 2018 12:35:56 GMT
I haven't seen seasons 7 & 8, but out of the first 6: 1. Season 1 2. Season 3 3. Season 5 4. Season 2 5. Season 4 6. Season 6 The pilot episode of season 1 remains one of the most iconic and best pilots in tv history. Season 1 is my favorite season. There was a lot of momentum to the story, the characters were great and it felt like the whole zombie apocalypse actually was stil solvable (now it looks like this show will never end). None of the other seasons showed the zombie horror aspect as well as season 1. I stopped watching after season 6. It went downhill during that season and it's a shame, because the first 4 episodes of season 6 are incredible. I think those first 4 episodes together (First Time Again, JSS, Thank You, Here's Not Here) make the best pack of subsequent episodes of the entire show and one of the only times where TWD looked like it might be able to compete again with today's most acclaimed shows. If only the other episodes were this good. Maybe I'll watch season 7 or 8 when I don't have anything else to watch or if season 9 turns out to be fantastic, but I'm not counting on it. I did hear pretty good things about the second part of season 8. Agreed. Season 7 and 8 are weaker than 6 but I do find last night's finale of 8 to be pretty good actually.
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Post by damkylan on May 11, 2018 22:54:32 GMT
Season 4- Still the best written season overall. Perfect blend of consistent action with consistent character development for pretty much every single character. Even side characters are more likable than some of the major characters of the first three seasons.
Season 5- Second best, with some of the most interesting and momentous events of the series. Still making good use of all the characters. Couple instances of really crappy execution start to crop up. A bad omen.
Season 1- Largely bland writing-wise, which is understandable given its the introduction, but bland is bland. However, it is second to none directing-wise. It helps that it actually had a workable budget. Pilot is still brilliant, finale is still retarded.
Season 6- Still more interesting writing overall than Season 1, but also has some of the stupidest moments of the entire series, and so it must go below. That is countered by having some of the best moments of the series as well, making the season a huge mixed bag.
Season 7- Stays somewhere between average and above average for most of the season, occasionally hitting some great highs and then some terrible lows. Bad ideas and goofy execution of ideas that could have been done way better. Amateurish direction. All in all, a season that definitely feels very stretched out. Character interactions still land much of the time for me, though, putting it above the next season.
Season 2- Utter crap that occasionally hits some highs, but not nearly enough. The budget problems rear their ugly head for the first time, and it's still one of the worst examples. Shitty writing, bad ideas, a lot of bad character interactions mixed in with some good. Is at the very least consistent throughout.
Season 3- Starts off with a promising first half. By no means perfect, but the pacing is much improved and things are actually happening. Then the second half shits it all up tremendously so. The fact that it is supposed to be bringing to life one of the best arcs of the comics can't be ignored. Lost potential is worse than no potential (Season 2 stretching out the farm issues).
Season 8- I don't even like the All-Out War arc of the comics that much. The comics got pretty stupid around this point. But at least they kept things consistent throughout. Season 8 had so many ideas that could have been good and it just kept screwing them up with amateurish writing and payoff. The battle scenes are the worst they've ever been, and they've never been stellar. Extraordinarily bad directing for far too many of them. The whole lost potential thing comes into play here, because there's honestly a lot I liked about the season, certainly more than what I liked about S2 and S3. So when I really look at it and realize how poorly planned out the whole thing feels, I gotta put it below both those seasons.
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