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Post by captainbryce on Mar 31, 2018 13:04:46 GMT
I’m not talking about incidents of forcible sodomy or “rape” due to age of consent laws. I’m talking typical, non consensual, sexual intercourse. Is it possible for a female to actually rape a male?
If you vote yes, can you cite a specific example where a woman has ever been charged/convicted with such a rape?
If you vote no, please explain why you think only men can perform the act of rape?
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Post by clusium on Mar 31, 2018 13:09:56 GMT
I’m not talking about incidents of forcible sodomy or “rape” due to age of consent laws. I’m talking typical, non consensual, sexual intercourse. Is it possible for a female to actually rape a male? If you vote yes, can you cite a specific example where a woman has ever been charged/convicted with such a rape? If you vote no, please explain why you think only men can perform the act of rape? While it is actually very rare, it can happen. A couple of reasons why it is rare, is because a)men are physically stronger than men, & b)the fact that the penis has to be erect for sexual intercourse to take place. But, it doesn't mean that it can't happen, or never has. One place where it can be common for women to rape, is the case of statutory rape, where adult women, such as teachers, have had sexual relationships with their male students. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 31, 2018 13:17:41 GMT
Yes, but just like with rape of women, a charge is not indicative of whether or not it happens. It isn't as common, of course, because most dudes consent even if they don't want to have sex. Of course, some laws may actually require a penis to be considered rape, but again, that doesn't change whether it happens. Recent article on it. www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/06/cierra-ross-charged-raping-man_n_3882608.html |
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Post by clusium on Mar 31, 2018 13:43:46 GMT
I’m not talking about incidents of forcible sodomy or “rape” due to age of consent laws. I’m talking typical, non consensual, sexual intercourse. Is it possible for a female to actually rape a male? If you vote yes, can you cite a specific example where a woman has ever been charged/convicted with such a rape? If you vote no, please explain why you think only men can perform the act of rape? When you finish reading the article, continue on to read the messages below it. The first one is very interesting. Cases Where Women Have Raped Men |
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Post by politicidal on Mar 31, 2018 17:44:38 GMT
Who says otherwise?
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Mar 31, 2018 20:01:50 GMT
Not in Australia.
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Post by captainbryce on Mar 31, 2018 21:00:14 GMT
I’m not talking about incidents of forcible sodomy or “rape” due to age of consent laws. I’m talking typical, non consensual, sexual intercourse. Is it possible for a female to actually rape a male? If you vote yes, can you cite a specific example where a woman has ever been charged/convicted with such a rape? If you vote no, please explain why you think only men can perform the act of rape? While it is actually very rare, it can happen. A couple of reasons why it is rare, is because a)men are physically stronger than men, & b)the fact that the penis has to be erect for sexual intercourse to take place. But, it doesn't mean that it can't happen, or never has. One place where it can be common for women to rape, is the case of statutory rape, where adult women, such as teachers, have had sexual relationships with their male students. And I already made it clear that I wasn’t referring to statuary rape, or some other nonsensical thing. I specifically limited the discussion to actual rape. And it sounds like you’re saying it’s theoretically possible and hypothetically has happened before, but you’re not able to provide an actual example of this ever happening? |
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Post by captainbryce on Mar 31, 2018 21:11:15 GMT
Yes, but just like with rape of women, a charge is not indicative of whether or not it happens. It isn't as common, of course, because most dudes consent even if they don't want to have sex. What are you basing that on exactly? Of course, some laws may actually require a penis to be considered rape, but again, that doesn't change whether it happens. I’m not sure what you mean by that. The law may require a “rapist” to be a male? Unfortunately, despite the title of the article, the story presents no evidence of an actual rape. It says he was “sexually assaulted”. That’s not really the same thing. And even though it cites a Times claim that a certain percentage of men have been raped, it again provides no evidence to support this claim. Just because a man claims they have been raped doesn’t mean it actually happened. I’m still looking for an actual conviction of a woman for RAPE (of a man), and I have yet to find one. |
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Post by captainbryce on Mar 31, 2018 21:13:57 GMT
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 31, 2018 21:21:27 GMT
Yes, but just like with rape of women, a charge is not indicative of whether or not it happens. It isn't as common, of course, because most dudes consent even if they don't want to have sex. What are you basing that on exactly? Of course, some laws may actually require a penis to be considered rape, but again, that doesn't change whether it happens. I’m not sure what you mean by that. The law may require a “rapist” to be a male? Unfortunately, despite the title of the article, the story presents no evidence of an actual rape. It says he was “sexually assaulted”. That’s not really the same thing. And even though it cites a Times claim that a certain percentage of men have been raped, it again provides no evidence to support this claim. Just because a man claims they have been raped doesn’t mean it actually happened. I’m still looking for an actual conviction of a woman for RAPE (of a man), and I have yet to find one. I think it does describe rape. The notion of believing the victim is the same as believing the victim when they're a woman, so that doesn't have much bearing beyond possible gender bias. The article itself presents the notion that rape is penetration. If someone forces you to penetrate (Because arousal is not an indicator of consent), then I'm not sure what definition of rape you are using. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 31, 2018 21:25:28 GMT
captainbryceYes, it goes back to the misconception that an erection means consent. Unreported rape is a pretty common phenomenon as is dudes having sex when they don't want to. If I was supposed to have a stat for that, then just ignore it.
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Post by kls on Mar 31, 2018 21:30:18 GMT
captainbryce Yes, it goes back to the misconception that an erection means consent. Unreported rape is a pretty common phenomenon as is dudes having sex when they don't want to. If I was supposed to have a stat for that, then just ignore it. I can't comprehend why anyone would think an erection automatically means consent. I mean guys have them in their sleep. And even if a guy is aroused it doesn't mean someone has the right to force him to act on it if for some reason he thinks he's better off not acting on it. |
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Post by captainbryce on Mar 31, 2018 21:42:34 GMT
What are you basing that on exactly? I’m not sure what you mean by that. The law may require a “rapist” to be a male? Unfortunately, despite the title of the article, the story presents no evidence of an actual rape. It says he was “sexually assaulted”. That’s not really the same thing. And even though it cites a Times claim that a certain percentage of men have been raped, it again provides no evidence to support this claim. Just because a man claims they have been raped doesn’t mean it actually happened. I’m still looking for an actual conviction of a woman for RAPE (of a man), and I have yet to find one. I think it does describe rape. The notion of believing the victim is the same as believing the victim when they're a woman, so that doesn't have much bearing beyond possible gender bias. The article itself presents the notion that rape is penetration. If someone forces you to penetrate (Because arousal is not an indicator of consent), then I'm not sure what definition of rape you are using. The article gives no evidence that a rape occurred at all, mich less that the woman was charged with rape. It says the man “escaped” and that she was charged with sexual assault. |
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Post by captainbryce on Mar 31, 2018 21:43:30 GMT
captainbryce Yes, it goes back to the misconception that an erection means consent. Unreported rape is a pretty common phenomenon as is dudes having sex when they don't want to. If I was supposed to have a stat for that, then just ignore it. If they are “unreported” then how do you know about them? |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 31, 2018 21:54:52 GMT
I think it does describe rape. The notion of believing the victim is the same as believing the victim when they're a woman, so that doesn't have much bearing beyond possible gender bias. The article itself presents the notion that rape is penetration. If someone forces you to penetrate (Because arousal is not an indicator of consent), then I'm not sure what definition of rape you are using. The article gives no evidence that a rape occurred at all, mich less that the woman was charged with rape. It says the man “escaped” and that she was charged with sexual assault. Again, I disagree with your interpretation of the article. I think the article references states quite clearly that while the charge was sexual assault(Which includes rape), the action was rape. But here's the original source: www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20130905/river-north/woman-forces-man-have-sex-with-her-friend-at-gunpoint-prosecutors-say |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 31, 2018 21:55:56 GMT
captainbryce Yes, it goes back to the misconception that an erection means consent. Unreported rape is a pretty common phenomenon as is dudes having sex when they don't want to. If I was supposed to have a stat for that, then just ignore it. If they are “unreported” then how do you know about them? Rapes don't happen unless people report them to the cops? Got it. |
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Post by clusium on Mar 31, 2018 22:19:17 GMT
While it is actually very rare, it can happen. A couple of reasons why it is rare, is because a)men are physically stronger than men, & b)the fact that the penis has to be erect for sexual intercourse to take place. But, it doesn't mean that it can't happen, or never has. One place where it can be common for women to rape, is the case of statutory rape, where adult women, such as teachers, have had sexual relationships with their male students. And I already made it clear that I wasn’t referring to statuary rape, or some other nonsensical thing. I specifically limited the discussion to actual rape. And it sounds like you’re saying it’s theoretically possible and hypothetically has happened before, but you’re not able to provide an actual example of this ever happening? Yes, & then in my next post, I shared the link about actual cases of women forcing themselves on men sexually. |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 31, 2018 22:26:48 GMT
Yes I'd imagine Chyna (RIP) could have her way with say, Michael Cera if she really wanted to.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Mar 31, 2018 22:37:20 GMT
Not me, but I'm sure some weak men could be raped by ladies.
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Post by captainbryce on Mar 31, 2018 23:58:42 GMT
The article gives no evidence that a rape occurred at all, mich less that the woman was charged with rape. It says the man “escaped” and that she was charged with sexual assault. Again, I disagree with your interpretation of the article. I think the article references states quite clearly that while the charge was sexual assault(Which includes rape), the action was rape. No. sexual assault and rape are two different charges. It says she was charged with sexual assault. And there is nothing saying she was convicted by the way. Just because his lawyer says something doesn’t prove it to be true. |
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