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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 6, 2018 16:21:10 GMT
It ain't a double standard to not like one comedy and to like another one... Though I definitely wouldn't consider the MCU movies to be comedies anyway except for GOTG at a push and it ain't exactly a bad thing to laugh. Though on the other hand it is true Back to the Future is a better movie than the MCU movies so... I dunno, I think there are a few MCU movies that are close to it, if not on the same level...
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 6, 2018 16:29:10 GMT
Combining humor with action and drama is a tried and true method for successful film making in Hollywood. Let me list a few movies that have as much comedy as MCU movies and many have Oscar noms and wins.
The Adventures of Robin Hood 1938 Gunga Din 1939 John Ford's Cavalry Trilogy 1948, '49. and '50 The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance 1962 Mr. Roberts 1955 Rio Bravo 1959 The Dirty Dozen 1967 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid 1969 Lethal Weapon 1987.
And many many more. Humor gives characters personality which allows audiences to identify with them and become invested in what happens to them.
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Post by scabab on Apr 6, 2018 17:10:32 GMT
I dunno, I think there are a few MCU movies that are close to it, if not on the same level... As good as they've all been, with some being great, Back to the Future is in a different league. It's one of the greatest movies of the 80's, in the same class of movies like the original Star Wars movies, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Aliens and Die Hard. There's MCU movies better than Back to the Future 2 and 3 though but the original is pretty special.
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 6, 2018 17:54:41 GMT
She would of been a better sue Storm than Bland Kate Mara Oh yeah because when I think of a scientist specializing in multidimensional and astro physics with bleach blonde hair I think of Kat Dennings...No wait, I don't. She can play any role plus a tight blue. Costumeππππ
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 6, 2018 17:56:45 GMT
Not as a bad as mcu comedies. In other words, double standard as the use of humor in BTTF ain't any different than the MCU. And pray tell what exactly is so wrong with the MCU's general use of comedy again? Having comedy isn't a betrayal of the source material if you've actually read any of them. No double standard at least back to the future seperates the humor and serious moments most mcu movies try to make most scenes funny. At least Netflix got it right
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Post by charzhino on Apr 6, 2018 18:22:02 GMT
There are no other films which have MCUs lame humour during serious scenes constantly. Star wars, Indiana Jones, back to the future even Ghostbusters had unique comedy that was actually funny and charming, not an eye rolling cringefest like Disney MCU is.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 6, 2018 18:47:20 GMT
In other words, double standard as the use of humor in BTTF ain't any different than the MCU. And pray tell what exactly is so wrong with the MCU's general use of comedy again? Having comedy isn't a betrayal of the source material if you've actually read any of them. No double standard at least back to the future seperates the humor and serious moments Not really, no. Ghostbusters gave us a joke practically every other line and BTTF is loaded with it.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 6, 2018 18:47:49 GMT
There are no other films which have MCUs lame humour during serious scenes constantly. Star wars, Indiana Jones, back to the future even Ghostbusters had Very similar humor. Ghostbusters had them joking even in the face of the World-Destroying God.
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Post by ghostintheshell on Apr 6, 2018 18:51:31 GMT
Your judgement sucks (like you)
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 6, 2018 18:51:45 GMT
The MCU doesn't do jokes during serious scenes. They do jokes during action scenes sometimes but not during serious dramatic scenes.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 6, 2018 18:53:23 GMT
Oh yeah because when I think of a scientist specializing in multidimensional and astro physics with bleach blonde hair I think of Kat Dennings...No wait, I don't. She can play any role plus a tight blue. Costumeππππ She'd be a terrible Sue Storm, she looks nothing like the character and has never played a role where you can believe her as a woman of science or as an action heroine, and is unlikely to be play either based on her recent credits and upcoming roles. And despite her age she looks like she's still in her first of four years in college. Sue Storm is a character that calls for an actress who is a fine blend of beauty, intelligence, sophistication, and authority. She is the "mother" figure of the Fantastic Four dynamic. Rosamund Pike, Diane Kruger, Hanna New, Bryce Dallas Howard, Kate Bosworth, Theresa Palmer, Anna Torv, Emily Blunt...Now, THESE ladies would be, well, fantastic in the role of Sue Storm and if you don't think any of them can act, are good looking, and would be awful as Sue then you really know next to nothing of the book or the characters and just want to see a hot chick in that classic outfit - which says a lot about your taste and how you critique your entertainment. The days of "we just need somebody attractive, nothing else matters" are gone for contemporary superhero based films, and we already got that with Jessica Alba in those two Fox produced movies in the mid 00's - that didn't go over very well.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 6, 2018 18:58:57 GMT
In other words, double standard as the use of humor in BTTF ain't any different than the MCU. And pray tell what exactly is so wrong with the MCU's general use of comedy again? Having comedy isn't a betrayal of the source material if you've actually read any of them. No double standard at least back to the future seperates the humor and serious moments most mcu movies try to make most scenes funny. At least Netflix got it right Most of the MCU movies have a good time balancing the humor and the serious moments in them, and both tonal directions feel organic to their plots. The Netflix shows are usually fairly serious, and when they try some attempt at comedy it usually doesn't work very well. Come on, on Iron Fist a guy gets his head broke into with an ice cream scooper...It wasn't played for laughs, but it was really, really dumb.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 6, 2018 19:00:36 GMT
There are no other films which have MCUs lame humour during serious scenes constantly. Star wars, Indiana Jones, back to the future even Ghostbusters had unique comedy that was actually funny and charming, not an eye rolling cringefest like Disney MCU is. The best of the MCU balances their humor during serious scenes just as well as Star Wars, Indiana Jones, BTTT, and Ghostbusters do. The others are almost on their level, but not quite, still they are good films when all is said and done.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Apr 6, 2018 20:22:52 GMT
ArArArch is back, eh?
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 6, 2018 20:48:32 GMT
No double standard at least back to the future seperates the humor and serious moments most mcu movies try to make most scenes funny. At least Netflix got it right Most of the MCU movies have a good time balancing the humor and the serious moments in them, and both tonal directions feel organic to their plots. The Netflix shows are usually fairly serious, and when they try some attempt at comedy it usually doesn't work very well. Come on, on Iron Fist a guy gets his head broke into with an ice cream scooper...It wasn't played for laughs, but it was really, really dumb. You got villians being beat by dance moves in the mcu movies
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 6, 2018 20:55:33 GMT
Most of the MCU movies have a good time balancing the humor and the serious moments in them, and both tonal directions feel organic to their plots. The Netflix shows are usually fairly serious, and when they try some attempt at comedy it usually doesn't work very well. Come on, on Iron Fist a guy gets his head broke into with an ice cream scooper...It wasn't played for laughs, but it was really, really dumb. You got villians being beat by dance moves in the mcu movies When did that happen? Oh wait, never. And no, Ronan was not beat by dance moves if that's going to be your next response, pay attention better when you watch movies please.
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 6, 2018 20:57:38 GMT
She can play any role plus a tight blue. Costumeππππ She'd be a terrible Sue Storm, she looks nothing like the character and has never played a role where you can believe her as a woman of science or as an action heroine, and is unlikely to be play either based on her recent credits and upcoming roles. And despite her age she looks like she's still in her first of four years in college. Sue Storm is a character that calls for an actress who is a fine blend of beauty, intelligence, sophistication, and authority. She is the "mother" figure of the Fantastic Four dynamic. Rosamund Pike, Diane Kruger, Hanna New, Bryce Dallas Howard, Kate Bosworth, Theresa Palmer, Anna Torv, Emily Blunt...Now, THESE ladies would be, well, fantastic in the role of Sue Storm and if you don't think any of them can act, are good looking, and would be awful as Sue then you really know next to nothing of the book or the characters and just want to see a hot chick in that classic outfit - which says a lot about your taste and how you critique your entertainment. The days of "we just need somebody attractive, nothing else matters" are gone for contemporary superhero based films, and we already got that with Jessica Alba in those two Fox produced movies in the mid 00's - that didn't go over very well. Bryce is the only actress you listed that can play Sue but shes behind Kat. Kat is a great actress and stunning too
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 6, 2018 21:01:36 GMT
Most of the MCU movies have a good time balancing the humor and the serious moments in them, and both tonal directions feel organic to their plots. The Netflix shows are usually fairly serious, and when they try some attempt at comedy it usually doesn't work very well. Come on, on Iron Fist a guy gets his head broke into with an ice cream scooper...It wasn't played for laughs, but it was really, really dumb. You got villians being beat by dance moves in the mcu movies Ronan was destroyed by a primal cosmic force, not dancing. It's hardly worse than Gozer being beaten in Ghostbusters by Ray trapping her in the form of a giant Marsh-mellow.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 6, 2018 21:52:03 GMT
She'd be a terrible Sue Storm, she looks nothing like the character and has never played a role where you can believe her as a woman of science or as an action heroine, and is unlikely to be play either based on her recent credits and upcoming roles. And despite her age she looks like she's still in her first of four years in college. Sue Storm is a character that calls for an actress who is a fine blend of beauty, intelligence, sophistication, and authority. She is the "mother" figure of the Fantastic Four dynamic. Rosamund Pike, Diane Kruger, Hanna New, Bryce Dallas Howard, Kate Bosworth, Theresa Palmer, Anna Torv, Emily Blunt...Now, THESE ladies would be, well, fantastic in the role of Sue Storm and if you don't think any of them can act, are good looking, and would be awful as Sue then you really know next to nothing of the book or the characters and just want to see a hot chick in that classic outfit - which says a lot about your taste and how you critique your entertainment. The days of "we just need somebody attractive, nothing else matters" are gone for contemporary superhero based films, and we already got that with Jessica Alba in those two Fox produced movies in the mid 00's - that didn't go over very well. Bryce is the only actress you listed that can play Sue but shes behind Kat. Kat is a great actress and stunning too How the heck are Rosamund Pike, Emily Blunt, Diane Kruger, Hanna New, Kate Bosworth, Theresa Palmer, and Anna Torv unqualified for Sue? What makes Kat Dennings the perfect choice? Is this casting decision actually based on how well you'd like to see the Fantastic Four adapted to screen or because you just want to see Kat Dennings in a blue skin tight outfit? Have you actually ever read the Fantastic Four? Nothing Dennings has done suggests she is the perfect fit for Sue in a movie.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 6, 2018 22:04:51 GMT
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