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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 20:20:15 GMT
He hasn't. He doesn't exist.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 13, 2017 20:36:45 GMT
Most wouldn't be convinced even if he pulled a monkey out of their nose.
In any event, plenty of people are convinced God is in their lives so as to make his lack of being in yours irrelevant.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 20:44:48 GMT
Most wouldn't be convinced even if he pulled a monkey out of their nose. In any event, plenty of people are convinced God is in their lives so as to make his lack of being in yours irrelevant. Conveniently this God decided to show himself to select few like Moses for example, and people choose to believe that. |
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Post by 🌵 on Mar 13, 2017 20:46:26 GMT
I don't see any reason to assume that if there were some sort of god, he would make his existence known to us. If I were a god, I'd probably create a whole bunch of different worlds and only reveal myself to some of them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 20:55:36 GMT
I don't see any reason to assume that if there were some sort of god, he would make his existence known to us. If I were a god, I'd probably create a whole bunch of different worlds and only reveal myself to some of them. Then we shouldn't follow any rules set by that entity |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 13, 2017 21:48:18 GMT
There are people who have professed to seeing/speaking to God. Though there are also people who profess to seeing space aliens and bigfoot.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 0:51:13 GMT
I don't see any reason to assume that if there were some sort of god, he would make his existence known to us. If I were a god, I'd probably create a whole bunch of different worlds and only reveal myself to some of them. Then we shouldn't follow any rules set by that entity I've never yet had a satisfactory answer to the question of why god has any authority to set rules for anybody. |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 14, 2017 3:18:53 GMT
I don't see any reason to assume that if there were some sort of god, he would make his existence known to us. If I were a god, I'd probably create a whole bunch of different worlds and only reveal myself to some of them. I suppose a feasible argument could be made for a non-interventional deistic type God (certainly less ridiculous that the apologetics used for arguing for an Abrahamic God), but even then what's the point? A God that has no real evidence to support it and refuses to reveal itself doesn't give any particularly reason for believing in one. Imagine if someone said to you "Hey I can do a backflip." You say "OK show me". The other person says "I don't really feel like doing it right now." If he refuses to do it, then there's no particular reason for believing him until he actually does it. Sure, a backflip wouldn't be impossible, but that's not sufficient enough reason to believe it. Same thing for a God that refuses to reveal itself. Yeah I guess it would be intellectually dishonest to say "It's impossible for God to exist", but if it refuses to reveal itself (or at least see feasible evidence), I don't see any particularly reason for believing one exists. |
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Post by dividavi on Mar 14, 2017 5:39:56 GMT
Then we shouldn't follow any rules set by that entity I've never yet had a satisfactory answer to the question of why god has any authority to set rules for anybody. The only answer I've ever seen (in one form or another) is that God can do whatever He wants and it's you who must obey. He's got the power and you don't. Might makes right. For a demonstration of this see the interchange between Christopher Hitchens and imbecile Todd Friel. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG2ffBV4VbE |
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Post by Arlon10 on Mar 14, 2017 6:16:44 GMT
He hasn't. He doesn't exist. Who put you in charge of the rules? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 6:18:45 GMT
If there is a god, he/it's laughing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 6:19:28 GMT
If I was God, I wouldn't bother revealing myself to anyone at all. Most Earthlings are annoying, selfish and evil creatures  |
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Post by Aj_June on Mar 14, 2017 6:19:48 GMT
If there is a god, he/it's laughing. hysterically? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 6:22:37 GMT
If there is a god, he/it's laughing. hysterically? i guess anything is possible. "Dear almighty refrigerator door, oh..." -MST3k |
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Post by 🌵 on Mar 14, 2017 9:24:06 GMT
I don't see any reason to assume that if there were some sort of god, he would make his existence known to us. If I were a god, I'd probably create a whole bunch of different worlds and only reveal myself to some of them. I suppose a feasible argument could be made for a non-interventional deistic type God (certainly less ridiculous that the apologetics used for arguing for an Abrahamic God), but even then what's the point? A God that has no real evidence to support it and refuses to reveal itself doesn't give any particularly reason for believing in one. Imagine if someone said to you "Hey I can do a backflip." You say "OK show me". The other person says "I don't really feel like doing it right now." If he refuses to do it, then there's no particular reason for believing him until he actually does it. Sure, a backflip wouldn't be impossible, but that's not sufficient enough reason to believe it. Same thing for a God that refuses to reveal itself. Yeah I guess it would be intellectually dishonest to say "It's impossible for God to exist", but if it refuses to reveal itself (or at least see feasible evidence), I don't see any particularly reason for believing one exists. If there's a "feasible argument" for such a god, wouldn't that in itself count as evidence for that god? But yeah, I don't think there's any good reason to believe in god. |
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Post by awhina on Mar 14, 2017 9:59:19 GMT
He did.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 13:01:51 GMT
I've never yet had a satisfactory answer to the question of why god has any authority to set rules for anybody. The only answer I've ever seen (in one form or another) is that God can do whatever He wants and it's you who must obey. He's got the power and you don't. Might makes right. For a demonstration of this see the interchange between Christopher Hitchens and imbecile Todd Friel. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG2ffBV4VbEThat's such a hilarious interview. Friel must repeat "but this is a hypothetical" twenty times - he simply cannot grasp the concept that Hitchens can accept his hypothetical, agree with his premises, and yet not accept his conclusions. |
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Post by lockardthegoat on Mar 24, 2017 20:37:23 GMT
I agree. It makes no sense for a personal God to set rules for people, demand that he be obeyed and worshipped (and even threaten hellfire if people don't comply), and yet never explicitly reveal himself in a manner that would remove all doubt.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 24, 2017 21:27:37 GMT
Most wouldn't be convinced even if he pulled a monkey out of their nose. In any event, plenty of people are convinced God is in their lives so as to make his lack of being in yours irrelevant. Conveniently this God decided to show himself to select few like Moses for example, and people choose to believe that. I have never met anyone who believes God is in their lives just because God was in Moses' life.
There's more to it than that, but it's OK to not be interested in how all of this belief stuff works.
It has nothing to do with you and thus does not matter for you...& yet it does for some reason.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 23:36:39 GMT
Most wouldn't be convinced even if he pulled a monkey out of their nose. That's a BS excuse right there. Hmmm, so god plays favourites? Okay. |
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