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Post by schwarzwald2 on Mar 13, 2017 20:39:48 GMT
That without evil and suffering, people wouldn't need faith.
That's just really archaic and even anti-social thinking.
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Post by 🌵 on Mar 13, 2017 20:43:33 GMT
I don't understand the argument you're criticizing. What exactly does it mean to "need" faith? Why would a person who experiences no suffering not need faith? And how is this supposed to provide an answer to the problem of evil? Perhaps you could explain the argument in a bit more detail.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 20:45:32 GMT
That without evil and suffering, people wouldn't need faith. That's just really archaic and even anti-social thinking. Anti-Social? How is this related to social science? |
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Post by schwarzwald2 on Mar 13, 2017 20:49:01 GMT
That without evil and suffering, people wouldn't need faith. That's just really archaic and even anti-social thinking. Anti-Social? How is this related to social science? Easy. It speaks to their mindsets. The idea of submission to a monarch like figure. That's vastly different than more individualized thinking. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 20:50:57 GMT
Anti-Social? How is this related to social science? Easy. It speaks to their mindsets. The idea of submission to a monarch like figure. That's vastly different than more individualized thinking. It could be argued that more social people are those who adhere to the society and are not individualized |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 13, 2017 20:51:40 GMT
What is the problem of evil?
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Post by schwarzwald2 on Mar 13, 2017 20:54:29 GMT
Easy. It speaks to their mindsets. The idea of submission to a monarch like figure. That's vastly different than more individualized thinking. It could be argued that more social people are those who adhere to the society and are not individualized You're not getting it. This is where the different mindset between the societies lie. 200 years ago, God was the prime mover and mindless submission for the vast majority of the population was normal. Anyone who questioned this was castigated. In a modern, secular world there's a new normal with individualism in the west anyway. Yes the rigid thinking and old ways are still prevalent in the minds of those who give this answer. |
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Post by cupcakes on Mar 13, 2017 20:55:51 GMT
tpfkar Not a problem for a good number of people. Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 13, 2017 20:56:26 GMT
It could be argued that more social people are those who adhere to the society and are not individualized You're not getting it. This is where the different mindset between the societies lie. 200 years ago, God was the prime mover and mindless submission for the vast majority of the population was normal. Anyone who questioned this was castigated. In a modern, secular world there's a new normal with individualism in the west anyway. Yes the rigid thinking and old ways are still prevalent in the minds of those who give this answer. This isn't really true.
Religion has always been a spoke in civilization accompanied by culture, commerce, & government.
There's nothing new about this normal which has always been based on what people want to do and that includes how they want to worship.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 21:00:38 GMT
It could be argued that more social people are those who adhere to the society and are not individualized You're not getting it. This is where the different mindset between the societies lie. 200 years ago, God was the prime mover and mindless submission for the vast majority of the population was normal. Anyone who questioned this was castigated. In a modern, secular world there's a new normal with individualism in the west anyway. Yes the rigid thinking and old ways are still prevalent in the minds of those who give this answer. In a modern secular world, you have to either choose Hillary or Trump. You have to be either red or blue. You have to be either religious or irreligious. You have to either eat McDonald's or Burger King. If you try and get out of this society, then you are considered a social pariah and castigated. I see no difference in how people behaved back then and now. You are giving this contemporary era a subjective pro opinionated bias because you are currently in it. As to the problem of evil, it is a very long discussion. What some consider evil may be a social norm for others, or a morally justified stance. |
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Post by awhina on Mar 20, 2017 8:49:35 GMT
That without evil and suffering, people wouldn't need faith. That's just really archaic and even anti-social thinking. From where do you get that argument? |
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Post by awhina on Mar 20, 2017 8:53:31 GMT
It could be argued that more social people are those who adhere to the society and are not individualized You're not getting it. This is where the different mindset between the societies lie. 200 years ago, God was the prime mover and mindless submission for the vast majority of the population was normal. Anyone who questioned this was castigated. In a modern, secular world there's a new normal with individualism in the west anyway. Yes the rigid thinking and old ways are still prevalent in the minds of those who give this answer. Atomised individualism is a backwards step. Individualistic societies, neo-liberal capitalism every male for himself and devil take the hindmost are not good things. |
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Post by awhina on Mar 20, 2017 8:55:56 GMT
You're not getting it. This is where the different mindset between the societies lie. 200 years ago, God was the prime mover and mindless submission for the vast majority of the population was normal. Anyone who questioned this was castigated. In a modern, secular world there's a new normal with individualism in the west anyway. Yes the rigid thinking and old ways are still prevalent in the minds of those who give this answer. In a modern secular world, you have to either choose Hillary or Trump. You have to be either red or blue. You have to be either religious or irreligious. You have to either eat McDonald's or Burger King. Only if you are American. |
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Post by nausea on Mar 20, 2017 9:15:37 GMT
The last time I heard that I laughed so hard I fell off my dinosaur.
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