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Post by Daisy on Apr 17, 2018 16:35:29 GMT
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 17, 2018 16:36:50 GMT
Some of those aren't half bad.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 17, 2018 17:24:57 GMT
Yeah this is one of the better ones.
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Post by scabab on Apr 17, 2018 19:30:16 GMT
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 17, 2018 20:36:49 GMT
Jovovich as BW would have been way better than Scarjo.
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Post by Salzmank on Apr 17, 2018 20:42:09 GMT
I…actually think that in many ways I’d prefer these castings.
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 17, 2018 21:12:47 GMT
Switch Falcon and War Machine. But I don't know how the egos of Cruise and Murphy would handle it in the 90s.
Ethan Hawk was too much of the bad boy loner in the 90s to be Vision.
With Milla being Black Widow, are you guys thinking just her fighting or acting like a spy? Yeah, she's athletic (Fif Element), but could she have pulled off something like the Loki interrogation? Can you honestly see her going up against Gary Oldman in that scene? Or even The Winter Soldier as a whole?
And I'm trying to think if Halle Berry was big enough they would have given her Gamora. She was still "that pretty girl" back then. Zoe Saldana wasn't Zoe Saldana until 2009 (Star Trek/ Avatar, her X-men).
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 17, 2018 21:42:24 GMT
Switch Falcon and War Machine. But I don't know how the egos of Cruise and Murphy would handle it in the 90s. Ethan Hawk was too much of the bad boy loner in the 90s to be Vision. With Milla being Black Widow, are you guys thinking just her fighting or acting like a spy? Yeah, she's athletic (Fif Element), but could she have pulled off something like the Loki interrogation? Can you honestly see her going up against Gary Oldman in that scene? Or even The Winter Soldier as a whole? And I'm trying to think if Halle Berry was big enough they would have given her Gamora. She was still "that pretty girl" back then. Zoe Saldana wasn't Zoe Saldana until 2009 (Star Trek/ Avatar, her X-men). It's not like Scarjo did some heavy acting as BW, nor is Scarjo famous for her acting skills. That said, I think Sharon Stone would have made a better BW. |
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Apr 17, 2018 23:02:37 GMT
Not bad, totally agree with Brendan Fraser as Starlord and Halle Berry as Gamora, totally disagree with Tom Cruise being Iron Man and Cuba Gooding as War Machine though.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 17, 2018 23:05:50 GMT
Not bad, totally agree with Brendan Fraser as Starlord and Halle Berry as Gamora, totally disagree with Tom Cruise being Iron Man and Cuba Gooding as War Machine though. Nah, I completely disagree with Halle Berry as Gamora. She's better than Saldana but then again Saldana was completely wrong for Gamora anyway. I mean, Gamora is supposed to be the most dangerous and feared assassin in the universe. Does either Berry or Saldana give you that vibe? |
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Post by Daisy on Apr 17, 2018 23:11:04 GMT
Not bad, totally agree with Brendan Fraser as Starlord and Halle Berry as Gamora, totally disagree with Tom Cruise being Iron Man and Cuba Gooding as War Machine though. Nah, I completely disagree with Halle Berry as Gamora. She's better than Saldana but then again Saldana was completely wrong for Gamora anyway. I mean, Gamora is supposed to be the most dangerous and feared assassin in the universe. Does either Berry or Saldana give you that vibe? Berry, no, Saldana...did you see Colombiana? |
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 17, 2018 23:17:38 GMT
Nah, I completely disagree with Halle Berry as Gamora. She's better than Saldana but then again Saldana was completely wrong for Gamora anyway. I mean, Gamora is supposed to be the most dangerous and feared assassin in the universe. Does either Berry or Saldana give you that vibe? Berry, no, Saldana...did you see Colombiana? Yeah I saw Colombiana... and fancy fight scenes still won't make Saldana intimidating. She just doesn't have the intensity. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 17, 2018 23:21:44 GMT
Switch Falcon and War Machine. But I don't know how the egos of Cruise and Murphy would handle it in the 90s. Ethan Hawk was too much of the bad boy loner in the 90s to be Vision. With Milla being Black Widow, are you guys thinking just her fighting or acting like a spy? Yeah, she's athletic (Fif Element), but could she have pulled off something like the Loki interrogation? Can you honestly see her going up against Gary Oldman in that scene? Or even The Winter Soldier as a whole? And I'm trying to think if Halle Berry was big enough they would have given her Gamora. She was still "that pretty girl" back then. Zoe Saldana wasn't Zoe Saldana until 2009 (Star Trek/ Avatar, her X-men). It's not like Scarjo did some heavy acting as BW, nor is Scarjo famous for her acting skills. That said, I think Sharon Stone would have made a better BW. But do you really think that Milla could do the part where she is fake crying/worried about what Loki is saying then turn it on a dime when she got the info? Back in the 90s I mean. Sure, I think Milla could probably do that now, but not back then. I'm looking at this purely from a 90s Milla vs ScarJo in 2012 perspective. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 17, 2018 23:25:07 GMT
Berry, no, Saldana...did you see Colombiana? Yeah I saw Colombiana... and fancy fight scenes still won't make Saldana intimidating. She just doesn't have the intensity. I don't think she's suppose to be intimidating. Not in the movies anyway. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Apr 17, 2018 23:32:10 GMT
Oh god Milla was horrible in the resident evil films!
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 17, 2018 23:36:31 GMT
Yeah I saw Colombiana... and fancy fight scenes still won't make Saldana intimidating. She just doesn't have the intensity. I don't think she's suppose to be intimidating. Not in the movies anyway. And that's what I was saying, that they mis-represented Gamora's character (and Black Widow too if you ask me). These are highly dangerous assassins and spies yet they don't carry themselves with the kind of confidence, intensity and badassery that you'd associate with these kind of professions. Angelina Jolie managed it with Salt. Antje Traue was completely believable as Faora. That lady who plays Sinara in AoS is awesomely intense in her role. Emily Blunt is believably tough in Edge of Tomorrow. Sarah Connor in T2 is a great example. Even Gal Gadot is pretty badass as Diana. Compared to them, Gamora and BW seem pretty soft. |
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Post by sostie on Apr 18, 2018 0:47:39 GMT
Some of those are pretty good. Though would a black actor even be considered for Fury in the 90s? A black Fury didn't appear until the next decade....and if we are talking just equivalents...well Jackson was around in the 90s and black Fury was modelled on him.
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 18, 2018 1:07:37 GMT
I don't think she's suppose to be intimidating. Not in the movies anyway. And that's what I was saying, that they mis-represented Gamora's character (and Black Widow too if you ask me). These are highly dangerous assassins and spies yet they don't carry themselves with the kind of confidence, intensity and badassery that you'd associate with these kind of professions. Angelina Jolie managed it with Salt. Antje Traue was completely believable as Faora. That lady who plays Sinara in AoS is awesomely intense in her role. Emily Blunt is believably tough in Edge of Tomorrow. Sarah Connor in T2 is a great example. Even Gal Gadot is pretty badass as Diana. Compared to them, Gamora and BW seem pretty soft. What I mean is they shouldn't be the type of characters that would scare a person with a look. They should scare people by what they can do. Assassins and spies shouldn't carry themselves in a way that get them noticed. Every character you named off are military types and warriors. The only one that wasn't a military type and was actually close to how Black Widow is is Salt and she did not carry herself like a hard ass. |
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Post by summers8 on Apr 18, 2018 1:11:15 GMT
I thought this was about the movies itself. well it would have been better under the right direction, maybe like Blade. Gotten more respect.
And eddie murphy wont be flacon. he was a leading man in the 90s.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 18, 2018 1:13:27 GMT
I thought this was about the movies itself. well it would have been better under the right direction, maybe like Blade. Gotten more respect. Nah, if the MCU existed as it is back then CBMs would've become more respected as a genre much sooner. The X-Men movies wouldn't have gained a foothold because people wouldn't be intrigued by pretentious stuff anymore. They'd want authentic stuff. Essentially, the MCU in the 90s would've killed most ashamed CBMs in their cradle. |
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