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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 5:03:25 GMT
As a precursor to the blizzard (New York), I watched "Blood Simple" and "Millers Crossing".
Man, both were still really really good.
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Post by Eyeball on Mar 14, 2017 6:15:01 GMT
Blood Simple is better.
Miller's Crossing has some incredibly stupid scenes/continuity issues for the sake of being "cool."
The latter issues are akin to the way Tarantino overdoes most of his current-millennium projects for the sake of coolness.
The rest is spared, but the melted ice cubes remain.
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Post by london777 on Mar 14, 2017 13:08:47 GMT
Miller's Crossing has some incredibly stupid scenes/continuity issues for the sake of being "cool."
Interesting. I did not notice any, but you could be right. Could you kindly give examples, and I will give it another look? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 13:25:05 GMT
Both are great films, Miller's Crossing is in my Top 50.
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Post by kijii on Mar 14, 2017 18:50:34 GMT
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Post by rateater on Mar 14, 2017 18:52:41 GMT
coens first 8 are great
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Post by london777 on Mar 14, 2017 22:14:52 GMT
They also scripted Gambit (2012) and co-wrote The Naked Man (1998). All three stink. I do not know if they would have been any better had the Coens also directed. |
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Post by london777 on Mar 14, 2017 22:31:16 GMT
Below are the Coen flicks I have seen in order of preference. I see evidence neither of a decline over the years nor a steady improvement. They have had their ups and downs, but at a generally high level. The only one I think is a poor picture is The Ladykillers remake, but maybe because I am old enough to have enjoyed the wonderful original several times. Intolerable Cruelty is rather conventional and glossy, but better than similar movies from other directors. The Hudsucker Proxy is very watchable but a bit too bland for me. Inside Llewyn Davis I cannot judge impartially because I despise that sort of music. I was all in favor of Dylan electrifying his guitar. A pity he did not electrocute some of his predecessors too. My private jury is out on Hail Caesar! I have only seen it once. Everything else I rate from good to very good and I do not see any decades being better or worse than others. 1 1996 Fargo 2 1998 The Big Lebowski 3 2010 True Grit 4 2000 O Brother, Where Art Thou? 5 2009 A Serious Man 6 2001 The Man Who Wasn't There 7 1984 Blood Simple. 8 1991 Barton Fink 9 1990 Miller's Crossing 10 2007 No Country for Old Men 11 1987 Raising Arizona 12 2008 Burn After Reading 13 2016 Hail, Caesar! 14 1994 The Hudsucker Proxy 15 2013 Inside Llewyn Davis 16 2006 Paris, je t'aime (segment "Tuileries") 17 2003 Intolerable Cruelty 18 2004 The Ladykillers |
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Post by rateater on Mar 14, 2017 22:42:04 GMT
Below are the Coen flicks I have seen in order of preference. I see evidence neither of a decline over the years nor a steady improvement. They have had their ups and downs, but at a generally high level. The only one I think is a poor picture is The Ladykillers remake, but maybe because I am old enough to have enjoyed the wonderful original several times. Intolerable Cruelty is rather conventional and glossy, but better than similar movies from other directors. The Hudsucker Proxy is very watchable but a bit too bland for me. Inside Llewyn Davis I cannot judge impartially because I despise that sort of music. I was all in favor of Dylan electrifying his guitar. A pity he did not electrocute some of his predecessors too. My private jury is out on Hail Caesar! I have only seen it once. Everything else I rate from good to very good and I do not see any decades being better or worse than others. 1 1996 Fargo 2 1998 The Big Lebowski 3 2010 True Grit 4 2000 O Brother, Where Art Thou? 5 2009 A Serious Man 6 2001 The Man Who Wasn't There 7 1984 Blood Simple. 8 1991 Barton Fink 9 1990 Miller's Crossing 10 2007 No Country for Old Men 11 1987 Raising Arizona 12 2008 Burn After Reading 13 2016 Hail, Caesar! 14 1994 The Hudsucker Proxy 15 2013 Inside Llewyn Davis 16 2006 Paris, je t'aime (segment "Tuileries") 17 2003 Intolerable Cruelty 18 2004 The Ladykillers true grit and serious man are my favorite of the modern ones. no country and hail cesar i liked too. |
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Post by Eyeball on Mar 15, 2017 4:53:31 GMT
Miller's Crossing has some incredibly stupid scenes/continuity issues for the sake of being "cool."
Interesting. I did not notice any, but you could be right. Could you kindly give examples, and I will give it another look? For starters, how 'bout the one where Leo (Albert Finney) doesn't get killed while he walks in open space shooting an inaccurate machine gun? That's clearly there just to be cool. |
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Post by poelzig on Mar 15, 2017 6:31:03 GMT
For starters, how 'bout the one where Leo (Albert Finney) doesn't get killed while he walks in open space shooting an inaccurate machine gun? That's clearly there just to be cool. He killed them because the old man's still an artist with a Thompson.  Miller's Crossing is brilliant. |
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Mar 15, 2017 15:27:12 GMT
Below are the Coen flicks I have seen in order of preference. I see evidence neither of a decline over the years nor a steady improvement. They have had their ups and downs, but at a generally high level. The only one I think is a poor picture is The Ladykillers remake, but maybe because I am old enough to have enjoyed the wonderful original several times. Intolerable Cruelty is rather conventional and glossy, but better than similar movies from other directors. The Hudsucker Proxy is very watchable but a bit too bland for me. Inside Llewyn Davis I cannot judge impartially because I despise that sort of music. I was all in favor of Dylan electrifying his guitar. A pity he did not electrocute some of his predecessors too. My private jury is out on Hail Caesar! I have only seen it once. Everything else I rate from good to very good and I do not see any decades being better or worse than others. 1 1996 Fargo Loved2 1 998 The Big Lebowski Hated3 2010 True Grit Loved4 2000 O Brother, Where Art Thou? Loved5 2009 A Serious Man 6 2001 The Man Who Wasn't There So-So7 1984 Blood Simple. Loved8 1991 Barton Fink Loved9 1990 Miller's Crossing Loved10 2007 No Country for Old Men Hated it at first, but through repeat viewings, came to really like it.11 1987 Raising Arizona Hated12 2008 Burn After Reading 13 2016 Hail, Caesar! 14 1994 The Hudsucker Proxy Monotonous15 2013 Inside Llewyn Davis 16 2006 Paris, je t'aime (segment "Tuileries") 17 2003 Intolerable Cruelty Loved18 2004 The Ladykillers Loved |
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Post by Froggy on Mar 15, 2017 18:09:09 GMT
In Miller's Crossing I'm less bothered by Leo not getting shot in the scene discussed earlier than by the fact that he was able without reloading to fire over 500 shots from a sub-machine gun that has a 100-shot can. I don't mind a character doing some amazing feat, but something so impossible, sustained for as long as it is in that scene, takes me out of the movie.
I like me just about all the Coen Bros. films I've seen. Raising Arizona, Inside Llewyn Davis, and True Grit are the exceptions, and I've avoided The Ladykillers.
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Post by gadolinium on Mar 15, 2017 20:45:37 GMT
In Miller's Crossing I'm less bothered by Leo not getting shot in the scene discussed earlier than by the fact that he was able without reloading to fire over 500 shots from a sub-machine gun that has a 100-shot can. I don't mind a character doing some amazing feat, but something so impossible, sustained for as long as it is in that scene, takes me out of the movie. It's only a movie.
- Alfred Hitchcock
There are many unrealistic things in their other efforts as well. All its flaws aside, it's still my favorite Coen brothers movie.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 23:31:17 GMT
I didn't see either of these films, but wish I had, given the strong recommendations of my friends and others. I'm not always a Coen Bros. fan, so it would be good to see them at the beginning of their careers. The subjects of the films are intriguing. I can tell you "Blood Simple" was something of a revelation back in 86-87. So some of it's "Wow Factor" is no longer viable. Still pretty cool, though. Near the end? A certain characters dialog, followed by a certain characters laugh, is always worth the price of admission. 1980's "Texas Noir". "Millers Crossing" is very well written, in terms of characters. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 23:38:06 GMT
Below are the Coen flicks I have seen in order of preference. I see evidence neither of a decline over the years nor a steady improvement. They have had their ups and downs, but at a generally high level. The only one I think is a poor picture is The Ladykillers remake, but maybe because I am old enough to have enjoyed the wonderful original several times. Intolerable Cruelty is rather conventional and glossy, but better than similar movies from other directors. The Hudsucker Proxy is very watchable but a bit too bland for me. Inside Llewyn Davis I cannot judge impartially because I despise that sort of music. I was all in favor of Dylan electrifying his guitar. A pity he did not electrocute some of his predecessors too. My private jury is out on Hail Caesar! I have only seen it once. Everything else I rate from good to very good and I do not see any decades being better or worse than others. 1 1996 Fargo #22 1998 The Big Lebowski #33 2010 True Grit 4 2000 O Brother, Where Art Thou? #45 2009 A Serious Man 6 2001 The Man Who Wasn't There 7 1984 Blood Simple. #78 1991 Barton Fink #19 1990 Miller's Crossing #510 2007 No Country for Old Men #611 1987 Raising Arizona 12 2008 Burn After Reading 13 2016 Hail, Caesar! 14 1994 The Hudsucker Proxy #8 (<----"You know? For KIDS!!!!" "Hailllll Muncie!!!", LOL)15 2013 Inside Llewyn Davis 16 2006 Paris, je t'aime (segment "Tuileries") 17 2003 Intolerable Cruelty 18 2004 The Ladykillers Thanks for the list! Threw my numbers in there. (That's today. Tomorrow might be different, LOL!) |
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Post by poelzig on Mar 16, 2017 8:00:01 GMT
He killed them because the old man's still an artist with a Thompson. Miller's Crossing is brilliant. I gathered as much genius! How the fuck was he not hit while walking through the street in his robe!?!?? Gifted super powers for that one scene! Very unrealistic. Thus -- Very cool for many! (thus, done for cool factor!)  First of all it wasn't the street. It was Leo's driveway. If you got that wrong you obviously weren't paying attention but I'll give you a pass on that. Secondly the guys fleeing were being shot at unexpectedly so they panicked. The true killers were sent into the house and failed. In the car was the driver and probably some lieutenant that had become fat and lazy. Or worse some lame guido that was related to Johnny Caspar. Either way the guy obviously couldn't shot worth a damn.
Also it is a cool scene but what's wrong with that? Would you have liked it more if Leo had takes some bullets?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 12:12:50 GMT
Sigh.
The scene where Finney is shooting at the fleeing car with "Danny Boy" blaring in the background?
I think this was an example of 'cinematography for comic relief'.
I mean, I never actually took it literally. Like the hubcabs in "The Man Who Wasn't There".
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Apr 11, 2017 23:16:41 GMT
This thread is making me want to revisit Miller's Crossing, saw it way back then.
Raising Arizona was my introduction to the Coens, a very funny laugh-out-loud comedy, one that I also have not seen since the last century.
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Post by wmcclain on Apr 12, 2017 1:15:25 GMT
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For KIDS!!!!" "Hailllll Muncie!!!", LOL)
