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Post by sostie on Apr 19, 2018 0:42:13 GMT
OK then...if they had white actors playing an Oriental role then you can call it "whitewashing". But they didn't. Both actors were caucasian dude. Ben Kingsley's father is Indian Someone playing the role of a different race is....Tilda Swinton is not. Yes...and he was half English I have...and it seems you bring up Dr Strange and Iron Man and the "whitewashing" |
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Post by sostie on Apr 19, 2018 0:46:37 GMT
sostie Btw, Thunderbird’s actor is Amerindian(Native American) and even looks it. He's actually has English, Scottish, Irish, German, with distant Welsh and Dutch, ancestry. He claimed to have Native American roots in an interview once, but has never been able, or has given, any details of how. Doubt has been cast over this claim for sometime. |
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Post by Ecstasy on Apr 19, 2018 1:26:24 GMT
Ben Kingsley's father is Indian And Indian is a very diverse country similar to the Americas. And Ben Kingsley wasn’t the real Mandarin in the film. Earlier you admitted that changed the Ancient One from an oriental stereotype into a Celt. By definition white washing. Apparently you don’t since it refers to a phototype. No, you haven’t. Otherwise you would have realized that your reply was irrelevant to the discussion. |
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Post by Ecstasy on Apr 19, 2018 1:27:57 GMT
sostie Btw, Thunderbird’s actor is Amerindian(Native American) and even looks it. He's actually has English, Scottish, Irish, German, with distant Welsh and Dutch, ancestry. He claimed to have Native American roots in an interview once, but has never been able, or has given, any details of how. Doubt has been cast over this claim for sometime. Which doesn’t matter since he looks Amerindian. |
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Post by sostie on Apr 19, 2018 11:32:26 GMT
Ben Kingsley's father is Indian And Indian is a very diverse country similar to the Americas. And Ben Kingsley wasn’t the real Mandarin in the film. And so is Mongolia and that region of Asia. What should a half English, half Mongolian look like? Kingsley, half English/half Indian, plays an Englishman who had plastic surgery and wore shades, playing a half English/half Mongolian..so any accusations of Whitewashing is ridiculous because he isn't actually playing a half Mongolian character. The real Mandarin exists but we never see him. If he appears in a later film then perhaps accusations of whitewashing can be made depending on who is cast. Robert Downey Jr paying and Australian actor playing an African American in Tropic Thunder isn't considrered whitewashing No, if the character in the film was not changed (as it was for what seems like understandable reasons) and played by Swinton then that would be Whitewashing. They don't have her playing a race she is not. Guess not, because I have no idea what you mean. I always understood "Oriental" meant originating from (East) Asia formersamhmd said Iron Fist was disliked for political reasons (I assume the accusations of whitwashing) You said that was not the reason, and cited Dr Strange & Iron Man as I assum ed, being successful despite such accusations.. I'm responding to the assertions that those two films (and though I should have mentioned it Iron Fist as well) aern't cases of whitewashing, or at least have more complicated circumstances which make the accusations not so black and white. That's the way I read it |
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Post by sostie on Apr 19, 2018 11:34:10 GMT
He's actually has English, Scottish, Irish, German, with distant Welsh and Dutch, ancestry. He claimed to have Native American roots in an interview once, but has never been able, or has given, any details of how. Doubt has been cast over this claim for sometime. Which doesn’t matter since he looks Amerindian. The that is whitewashing...playing a race you are not. When Peter Sellers with fake tan looked Indian in The Party..but he is Caucasion...which is whitewashing. |
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Post by Ecstasy on Apr 19, 2018 12:46:12 GMT
And so is Mongolia and that region of Asia. What should a half English, half Mongolian look like? Mongolia is mostly oriental and India is full of causcians. Not to mention the Mandarin is oriental in appeance, making your entire point moot. All Hail The King was released many months after Iron Man 3. So this point is also moot. Since me and the other poster was talking about Iron Man 3’s critical reception. The ancient one is oriental in the comics. So white washing. Period. Not in this context. It doesn’t matters whether or not Doctor Strange and Iron Man 3 whitewash characters(which they did). What matters is that they were accused of that. |
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Post by Ecstasy on Apr 19, 2018 12:51:01 GMT
Which doesn’t matter since he looks Amerindian. The that is whitewashing...playing a race you are not. When Peter Sellers with fake tan looked Indian in The Party..but he is Caucasion...which is whitewashing. Good thing Blair Redford naturally looks the way he does. So again, a moot point. |
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