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Post by Skaathar on Apr 18, 2018 23:00:57 GMT
Is because Fox kinda sucks when handling an ensemble cast. Their best movies to date (Logan and maybe DP) were isolated into a few main characters. Even their successful ensemble movies (X2 and DOFP) they managed to make good because they only concentrated on a few main characters (Wolverine, Xavier, Magneto) while a lot of the other characters were shoved into the background.
The MCU has already proven to be able to handle big ensemble movies as seen with the Avengers, Civil War, GotG, and now with Infinity War. And since the X-men team is essentially an ensemble cast, it makes sense to trust the studio who's had more success with ensemble movies.
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Post by summers8 on Apr 18, 2018 23:36:42 GMT
X2 and FC had better ensemble cast than mcu movies. gotg, infinity war avengers cast are there to make things explode.
also if you read xmen comics, you will know in the story there is always a lead. See xmen is a drama or a soap opera like we call it in the comics. you have your leads and supporting.
more importantly fox can handle the compelling nature of xmen comics and the content. which is what is most important and the deciding factor.
please tell me how mcu will make an inferno or second coming movie?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Apr 18, 2018 23:41:34 GMT
I'm willing to give them a shot.
Honestly at this point I want the Fantastic Four back with Marvel.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 19, 2018 1:37:07 GMT
. please tell me how mcu will make an inferno or second coming movie? They start by actually making an X-men film, something that Fox has yet to do. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 19, 2018 3:05:38 GMT
I feel Tone Wise X men was good. I honestly love the first 2 movies,sure there are things I would change but I liked them
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Post by kleinreturns on Apr 19, 2018 8:34:44 GMT
. please tell me how mcu will make an inferno or second coming movie? They start by actually making an X-men film, something that Fox has yet to do. ^^^This. Hopefully without Singer's mediocrity and FOX's awful handling of the FOX-Men the MCU can deliver a proper and real X-Men movie instead of the Fox-Men drivel for almost 2 decades. |
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Post by charzhino on Apr 19, 2018 9:04:09 GMT
Theres more to Xmen than just an ensemble of them on screen, which has already been done btw. You need to get the characters, essence, tone and stories right. MCU will give us costumes and nice visual places like Savage land but its hollow if they turn the films into Guardian's style and tone where Cyclops is making goofball jokes and Mister Sinister is reduced to a silly villain like Ronan.
They would need to firmly stick with the tone shown in Cap films and Black Panther, nothing else will do. But even then MCU stories are very sterlized and they refrain from killing characters or showing suffering which is why I cant see Marvel studios adapting more graphic material like Mutant Massacre, Age of Apocalypse, House of M or Asgardian Wars.
Look at how soft they made Age of Ultron or Civil War. They just wont push for more darker content which is what the Xmen universe generally is compared to rest. Its the Batman of the Marvel brand.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Apr 19, 2018 10:44:32 GMT
all I can say I disliked X-Men comics and the cheap TV shows as a child, it was all very trashy and second rate to me. The iteration where I started to like this franchise was with the movies.
The very first one from 2000, X1, is a defining CBM milestone and one of the very few CBMs with a relevant and deep (allegorical) storyline, and great characters and casting. It made Magneto a top-10 voted villain (Next to Joker, Palpatine, Vader etc), same with Wolverine and X who became household names through the films. The last movie, Logan, is something many consider on the artistic peak-level of TDK, maybe deeper even with it's impressive stakes, and it even got a major Oscar nod (for writing, not just technical).
What lies between is a mixed bag, some great some mediocre, but even the mediocre ones are still on par with MCU's best.
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Post by ReyKahuka on Apr 19, 2018 11:45:19 GMT
Because just about anyone could?
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Post by summers8 on Apr 19, 2018 11:48:27 GMT
. please tell me how mcu will make an inferno or second coming movie? They start by actually making an X-men film, something that Fox has yet to do. Because X2 and DOFP are not xmen movies? did you ever read god loves man kills or dofp 1981 comics?disney are not even making marvel movies, they are making pixar movies look at thor and homecoming. so sad. disney cannot even make xmen tas or xmen evolution. talkless of an xmen movie. |
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Post by Jedan Archer on Apr 19, 2018 12:04:20 GMT
It's like giving Batman to Disney. Based on MCU's track record and the last Spiderman film MCU-Men will be formulaic, bland and trivial. Kids will love it though.
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Post by summers8 on Apr 19, 2018 12:35:47 GMT
It's like giving Batman to Disney. Based on MCU's track record and the last Spiderman film MCU-Men will be formulaic, bland and trivial. Kids will love it though. yes, it is like giving batman to disney. maybe even worse because I know some will argue batman had the adam west era but xmen had none of that. |
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Post by Jedan Archer on Apr 19, 2018 12:46:00 GMT
It's like giving Batman to Disney. Based on MCU's track record and the last Spiderman film MCU-Men will be formulaic, bland and trivial. Kids will love it though. yes, it is like giving batman to disney. maybe even worse because I know some will argue batman had the adam west era but xmen had none of that. Yes, I was talking about dark Batman. I am surprised the character survived the Schumacher, West and Lego versions.
I'm not interested in seeing a Wolverine suffer through that. He is buried somewhere out there, X marks the spot.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 19, 2018 14:50:27 GMT
X2 and FC had better ensemble cast than mcu movies. gotg, infinity war avengers cast are there to make things explode. also if you read xmen comics, you will know in the story there is always a lead. See xmen is a drama or a soap opera like we call it in the comics. you have your leads and supporting. more importantly fox can handle the compelling nature of xmen comics and the content. which is what is most important and the deciding factor. please tell me how mcu will make an inferno or second coming movie? How exactly? X2 is just the Wolverine show feat. the X-Men, and First Class is just the Charles, Eric, and Raven show feat. some mutants you completely forget about because Bryan Singer wouldn't let them develop because he killed them off in DOFP. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 19, 2018 15:28:47 GMT
X2 and FC had better ensemble cast than mcu movies. gotg, infinity war avengers cast are there to make things explode. also if you read xmen comics, you will know in the story there is always a lead. See xmen is a drama or a soap opera like we call it in the comics. you have your leads and supporting. more importantly fox can handle the compelling nature of xmen comics and the content. which is what is most important and the deciding factor. please tell me how mcu will make an inferno or second coming movie? How exactly? X2 is just the Wolverine show feat. the X-Men, and First Class is just the Charles, Eric, and Raven show feat. some mutants you completely forget about because Bryan Singer wouldn't let them develop because he killed them off in DOFP. So basically you're taking lazy, weak straw-men potshots at X2, a movie widely understood to be so far beyond any of the forgettable and throwaway popcorn drivel the MCU has sharted out it's unbelievable that it was made six or seven years before the first McMarvel script was fingerpainted onto construction paper in some preschool somewhere in Santa Clara, as a means of lightening the mood in the wake of the hideous and tragic doxxing scandal that brought this place to a grinding halt. Good job! I love this new spirit of levity and unity that we're all embracing.  |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 19, 2018 15:34:28 GMT
How exactly? X2 is just the Wolverine show feat. the X-Men, and First Class is just the Charles, Eric, and Raven show feat. some mutants you completely forget about because Bryan Singer wouldn't let them develop because he killed them off in DOFP. So basically you're taking lazy, weak straw-men potshots at X2, a movie widely understood to be so far beyond any of the forgettable and throwaway popcorn drivel the MCU has sharted out it's unbelievable that it was made six or seven years before the first McMarvel script was fingerpainted onto construction paper in some preschool somewhere in Santa Clara, as a means of lightening the mood in the wake of the hideous and tragic doxxing scandal that brought this place to a grinding halt. Good job! I love this new spirit of levity and unity that we're all embracing. Quite the contrary actually, as all I remember in X2 was the Wolverine's mansion killing spree (which was awesome btw), Wovlerine vs Lady Deathstrike, Jean sacrificing herself, and that's pretty much it. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 19, 2018 15:41:07 GMT
So basically you're taking lazy, weak straw-men potshots at X2, a movie widely understood to be so far beyond any of the forgettable and throwaway popcorn drivel the MCU has sharted out it's unbelievable that it was made six or seven years before the first McMarvel script was fingerpainted onto construction paper in some preschool somewhere in Santa Clara, as a means of lightening the mood in the wake of the hideous and tragic doxxing scandal that brought this place to a grinding halt. Good job! I love this new spirit of levity and unity that we're all embracing. Quite the contrary actually, as all I remember in X2 was the Wolverine's mansion killing spree (which was awesome btw), Wovlerine vs Lady Deathstrike, Jean sacrificing herself, and that's pretty much it. Oh. Then you need to check out the flick again, sir. |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 19, 2018 15:48:18 GMT
Quite the contrary actually, as all I remember in X2 was the Wolverine's mansion killing spree (which was awesome btw), Wovlerine vs Lady Deathstrike, Jean sacrificing herself, and that's pretty much it. Oh. Then you need to check out the flick again, sir. Will do. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 19, 2018 15:49:50 GMT
Oh. Then you need to check out the flick again, sir. Will do. Awesome. It's a classic. Enjoy! |
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Post by summers8 on Apr 19, 2018 16:10:16 GMT
X2 and FC had better ensemble cast than mcu movies. gotg, infinity war avengers cast are there to make things explode. also if you read xmen comics, you will know in the story there is always a lead. See xmen is a drama or a soap opera like we call it in the comics. you have your leads and supporting. more importantly fox can handle the compelling nature of xmen comics and the content. which is what is most important and the deciding factor. please tell me how mcu will make an inferno or second coming movie? How exactly? X2 is just the Wolverine show feat. the X-Men, and First Class is just the Charles, Eric, and Raven show feat. some mutants you completely forget about because Bryan Singer wouldn't let them develop because he killed them off in DOFP. Actually what you said about X2 was a lie. X2 is a classic in the genre and was the movie that was TDK before TDK. But its a nice try though. |
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