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Post by jamesbamesy on Apr 20, 2018 0:22:25 GMT
I wanted to do this after I see Judgement, but I'll just make a thread anyway. I'll give my final placement of Judgement once I see it. Anyway, my ranking (plus added ratings) would go like this:
Hellraiser - 8/10
Hellbound: Hellraiser II - 8/10
Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth - 7/10
Hellraiser V: Inferno - 7/10
Hellraiser IV: Bloodline - 6.5/10
Hellraiser VII: Deader - 6/10
Hellraiser VI: Hellseeker - 5.5/10
Hellraiser VIII: Hellworld - 5/10
Hellraiser IX: Revelations - 4/10
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Post by Marv on Apr 20, 2018 0:43:56 GMT
Hellraiser 2...I love the Dr Channard character. I think the moment I realized I liked it more than the first was Channards reaction to becoming a Cenobite. He was doubtful and terrified at first...and then once he’s exposed to the bliss that is pain he remark something like ‘and to think I had my doubts’. I loved it.
Hellraiser...classic.
Hellraiser 3...meh. Always felt kind of cheesy with CD player cenobite and camcorder Cenobite. I always felt the lore behind them should be much more particular and not spread like a vampire virus.
After this I’m not sure which ones I’ve all seen...
Hellraiser Bloodlines...is this the one set in older times with the attractive evil woman? Is this also set on a space station in the future? I remember thinking it was alright, but I preferred the older scenes to anything on a space station.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Apr 20, 2018 10:02:57 GMT
HELLBOUND: HELLRAISER II
HELLRAISER III: HELL ON EARTH
HELLRAISER
HELLRAISER: BLOODLINE
HELLRAISER: INFERNO
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Apr 20, 2018 11:04:51 GMT
Haven't seen most of the Hellraiser franchise for years, but I have rated them:
Hellraiser (1987) - 7/10
Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth (1992) - 6/10
Hellbound: Hellraiser II (1988) - 5/10
Hellraiser: Inferno (2000) - 5/10
Hellraiser: Hellseeker (2002) - 4/10
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Post by jamesbamesy on Apr 21, 2018 0:12:48 GMT
Haven't seen most of the Hellraiser franchise for years, but I have rated them: Hellraiser (1987) - 7/10 Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth (1992) - 6/10 Hellbound: Hellraiser II (1988) - 5/10 Hellraiser: Inferno (2000) - 5/10 Hellraiser: Hellseeker (2002) - 4/10 Most of them aren't very good, but then again, it wouldn't hurt much to revisit some. Just stay away from Revelations at all costs lol. |
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Post by jamesbamesy on Apr 21, 2018 0:14:31 GMT
Hellraiser 2...I love the Dr Channard character. I think the moment I realized I liked it more than the first was Channards reaction to becoming a Cenobite. He was doubtful and terrified at first...and then once he’s exposed to the bliss that is pain he remark something like ‘and to think I had my doubts’. I loved it. Hellraiser...classic. Hellraiser 3...meh. Always felt kind of cheesy with CD player cenobite and camcorder Cenobite. I always felt the lore behind them should be much more particular and not spread like a vampire virus. After this I’m not sure which ones I’ve all seen... Hellraiser Bloodlines...is this the one set in older times with the attractive evil woman? Is this also set on a space station in the future? I remember thinking it was alright, but I preferred the older scenes to anything on a space station. Yes, that was Bloodline. It was alright, but I didn't care for the time jumping in that film, it made it hard to follow. |
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Post by jamesbamesy on Apr 21, 2018 0:15:15 GMT
HELLBOUND: HELLRAISER II HELLRAISER III: HELL ON EARTH HELLRAISER HELLRAISER: BLOODLINE HELLRAISER: INFERNO Those all you've seen? |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Apr 21, 2018 0:45:41 GMT
HELLBOUND: HELLRAISER II HELLRAISER III: HELL ON EARTH HELLRAISER HELLRAISER: BLOODLINE HELLRAISER: INFERNO Those all you've seen? Yep! The first three were acceptable, but they have never ranked in favorite horror oeuvre. I was hanging out for the first and was a tad disappointed. I had just seen Nightmare 3-87' which I loved and thought Hellraiser would take the pip after all the hype I had read about it. I found it a bit amateurish and try hard in parts and that is why I rate the second installment higher. Hellbound, was visually strong— in spite of some cheap looking visual effects—creepy and quite an ambitious sequel. Ashley Laurence and William Hope as Kirsty and Kyle were bad actors, but the rest of the cast was good. I also enjoy watching Hellraiser 3: Hell On Earth the most and find it perhaps the more entertaining, but overall, don't think it is as good as a picture as 2. IV Bloodline had some ambition too, I just think it got a bit cheesy towards the end, with the space climax. More the presentation of it and not the setting. Have only seen Inferno once. It was quite creepy and nightmarish if I recall and perhaps need to revisit. |
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Post by jamesbamesy on Apr 21, 2018 0:48:17 GMT
Yep! The first three were acceptable, but they have never ranked in favorite horror oeuvre. I was hanging out for the first and was a tad disappointed. I had just seen Nightmare 3-87' which I loved and thought Hellraiser would take the pip after all the hype I had read about it. I found it a bit amateurish and try hard in parts and that is why I rate the second installment higher. Hellbound, was visually strong— in spite of some cheap looking visual effects—creepy and quite an ambitious sequel. Ashley Laurence and William Hope as Kirsty and Kyle were bad actors, but the rest of the cast was good. I also enjoy watching Hellraiser 3: Hell On Earth the most and find it perhaps the more entertaining, but overall, don't think it is as good as a picture as 2. IV Bloodline had some ambition too, I just think it got a bit cheesy towards the end, with the space climax. More the presentation of it and not the setting. Have only seen Inferno once. It was quite creepy and nightmarish if I recall and perhaps need to revisit. Yes, you should definitely revisit Inferno. I always found it as an underrated sequel. |
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Apr 21, 2018 4:25:55 GMT
Havent seen Judgement yet.
1. Hellraiser - 9/10
2. Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth - 9/10
3. Hellraiser II: Hellbound - 9/10
4. Hellraiser V: Inferno - 5/10
5. Hellraiser IV: Bloodline - 5/10
6. Hellraiser VI: Hellseeker - 5/10
7. Hellraiser VIII: Hellworld - 3/10
8. Hellraiser IX: Revelations - 3/10
9. Hellraiser VII: Deader - 2/10
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Post by jamesbamesy on Apr 21, 2018 15:26:39 GMT
Havent seen Judgement yet. 1. Hellraiser - 9/102. Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth - 9/103. Hellraiser II: Hellbound - 9/104. Hellraiser V: Inferno - 5/105. Hellraiser IV: Bloodline - 5/106. Hellraiser VI: Hellseeker - 5/107. Hellraiser VIII: Hellworld - 3/108. Hellraiser IX: Revelations - 3/109. Hellraiser VII: Deader - 2/10Funny how you put Deader last, even below Revelations. |
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Apr 21, 2018 19:57:27 GMT
Havent seen Judgement yet. 1. Hellraiser - 9/102. Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth - 9/103. Hellraiser II: Hellbound - 9/104. Hellraiser V: Inferno - 5/105. Hellraiser IV: Bloodline - 5/106. Hellraiser VI: Hellseeker - 5/107. Hellraiser VIII: Hellworld - 3/108. Hellraiser IX: Revelations - 3/109. Hellraiser VII: Deader - 2/10Funny how you put Deader last, even below Revelations. I hardly remember Deader. But I do recall being bored as hell. |
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Post by Raimo47 on Apr 21, 2018 21:03:51 GMT
1. Hellbound: Hellraiser II - 8/10
2. Hellraiser - 7/10
3. Hellraiser: Bloodline - 7/10
4. Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth - 7/10
5. Hellraiser: Inferno - 6/10
6. Hellraiser: Hellseeker - 6/10
7. Hellraiser: Hellworld - 5/10
8. Hellraiser: Deader - 4/10
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 22:10:03 GMT
original is a classic.
5,6,7 get crapped on for no valid reason.
infero is tremendous, hellseeker is enjoyable and Deader is decent
the rest (that includes II) get a thumbs down......sorry Hellbound fanboys - gore to me doesn't = a good movie and despite the hardcore dorks stating Hellraiser was never about Pinhead - umm - yeah - it really is - it was a disgrace how easily he went down to Dr. Chanard. thumbs down from this guy.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 25, 2018 7:39:23 GMT
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Haven't seen the new one.
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Post by jamesbamesy on Apr 25, 2018 11:23:23 GMT
2 1 3 5 9 7/8 6 4 Haven't seen the new one. I've actually just seen Judgement last night. BTW, how have you ranked 9 so high? |
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Post by jamesbamesy on Apr 25, 2018 11:24:44 GMT
Just watched Judgement last night. I was pretty disappointed, but then again I wasn't expecting too much either. I'd place it at #9, so above Revelations but below Hellworld and the rest.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 25, 2018 12:36:16 GMT
2 1 3 5 9 7/8 6 4 Haven't seen the new one. I've actually just seen Judgement last night. BTW, how have you ranked 9 so high? Well, everything after 5 on that list is a complete dumster fire, don't get me wrong. But 9, for me, was a dumpster fire that at least felt like a Hellraiser movie. Which says a lot since it's not even Doug Bradley as Pinhead. As you're probably aware, 5-8 weren't supposed to be Hellraiser movies - producers just took random scripts and stuck cenobites in them. And it shows. 5 was okay, but those other three...oh boy. And then I just found 4 one of the most boring horror movies I've ever seen. Been thinking about giving it another chance, though. |
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Post by jamesbamesy on Apr 25, 2018 19:59:53 GMT
I've actually just seen Judgement last night. BTW, how have you ranked 9 so high? Well, everything after 5 on that list is a complete dumster fire, don't get me wrong. But 9, for me, was a dumpster fire that at least felt like a Hellraiser movie. Which says a lot since it's not even Doug Bradley as Pinhead. As you're probably aware, 5-8 weren't supposed to be Hellraiser movies - producers just took random scripts and stuck cenobites in them. And it shows. 5 was okay, but those other three...oh boy. And then I just found 4 one of the most boring horror movies I've ever seen. Been thinking about giving it another chance, though. Yeah the rest after Inferno weren't very good. I'm not even sure why they would use that script technique. 7 I appreciated for its concept of the Deaders, but they were barely even used. 6 was quite a letdown and a bit of a bore since they completely wasted Ashley Laurence's role in there. 8 is like the Halloween: Resurrection of the franchise; dumb, silly and totally dated. The good things I can say for it are the kills and its creative idea. 4 was fine for me. You should give it another go. It's in my opinion, the best of the slasher sequels set in space, the other two being Leprechaun 4 and Jason X. |
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Post by masterofallgoons on May 2, 2018 18:53:43 GMT
4 was fine for me. You should give it another go. It's in my opinion, the best of the slasher sequels set in space, the other two being Leprechaun 4 and Jason X. I actually remember thinking that one was fairly decent. The other space slashers (Dracula 3000, Jason X, Leprechaun 4) all tries to be funny and failed miserably, but Hellraiser: Bloodline was played pretty seriously, and the space aspect was completely overblown, as it is one aspect of a movie that takes place across multiple time periods. I don't remember all that much about it as it's been a long time since I've seen most of these movies, but I didn't hate it as much as I did some of the other ones. Like I said, it's been a whole since I've seen most of these, but as I look over them I have pretty low ratings for them in general. I always found the ideas behind the series much better than the execution, even and maybe especially, in the first one. And I don't get the love for part 2. Maybe I'd change my mind if I saw it again, but the ambition of the movie was admirable, while the bad dialogue and horrible effects are just too overbearing to look past. As for the later ones, Deader is maybe the worst subtitle I've ever heard, but I think in some ways the scripts being developed as other movies were an advantage on some way. At least with Inferno, which is one of the best of these movies, that was a character and story that was given an actual development and that used the Pinhead realm as a backdrop as opposed to making that the main thing and forgetting that the main characters are supposed to drive the plot. But Hellworld was awful, I thought, and Lance Henrikson was the only part I liked, Revelations was atrocious in all ways, and the most recent one was actually not terrible considering that the whole thing was evidently made for something like $350k. It looks pretty decent, and while it feels cheap it's a small and sort of intimate story with only a few characters, but the makeup effects are decent enough. It's not good, but it's better than some of the other ones. |
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