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Post by salomonj on Apr 23, 2018 2:56:24 GMT
This is going to be a middle of the road destruction filled movie that everyone will forget about in two weeks. If anyone expects Thanos to be a complex villain with a motivation beyond taking over the world, you are kidding yourself. Will it be a bad film? Probably not. Will it live up to the hype? Almost certainly not. As DC-Fan said, this is going to be TLJ all over again. The promotional material hasn't gotten me excited at all. I mean, I used to be a pretty big MCU fan, but I haven't purchased tickets and have no plans to at the moment. Unless I hear that this is a film that is well worth the price of admission, I actually won't be seeing this in the cinema. Btw, does anyone know when the world premiere is? I'm very curious to what the RT score will be... |
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Post by harpospoke on Apr 23, 2018 3:45:51 GMT
Well the whole article rests on the fake complaint about "Marvel villains" so it fails at its core. There were 6 CB movies last year and Marvel had the best 3. The Fox and DC villains were the worst ones. And then Marvel did pretty good this year with the BP villain too. But I guess a fake complaint doesn't need to match reality. This was really one of the only problems with TLJ. Countless fan theories that wanted the movie to go a certain way hurt the movie. When they didn't get that, people deemed it a bad movie. That might hurt Infinity War because there are a lot of fan theories on this movie. One of the biggest is where the soul stone is. Defenders of TLJ keep saying that over and over. That's not what happened at all. There were fan theories because there were narrative reasons for those theories in TFA. When TLJ just dropped those story lines and flushed them down the toilet, of course that's going to bother people. Plus turning Luke into a cowardly hermit is going to piss people off too. So yeah....IW could just kill off Thanos early in the movie and act like he's not important like TLJ did with Snoke. That's probably going to bother people. And IW could have Capt America run away and hide when Thanos shows up....that will bother people too. The Russos could stick in a sub-plot that does not effect the main plot with Hawkeye and Falcon going to save some race horses owned by evil rich people too. That's going to be criticized. Cap and IM could just be friends again and ignore the issue from Civil War. Fans will complain about that. It could happen. Everyone makes a movie people don't like at some point. Marvel has avoided it so far but it's inevitable. As other said, it would be a shame if it was this movie. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 23, 2018 3:46:39 GMT
This is going to be a middle of the road destruction filled movie that everyone will forget about in two weeks. If anyone expects Thanos to be a complex villain with a motivation beyond taking over the world, you are kidding yourself. Will it be a bad film? Probably not. Will it live up to the hype? Almost certainly not. As DC-Fan said, this is going to be TLJ all over again. The promotional material hasn't gotten me excited at all. I mean, I used to be a pretty big MCU fan, but I haven't purchased tickets and have no plans to at the moment. Unless I hear that this is a film that is well worth the price of admission, I actually won't be seeing this in the cinema. Btw, does anyone know when the world premiere is? I'm very curious to what the RT score will be... It will be 96, which is the highest they're allowed to give it for... reasons... |
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Post by kevin on Apr 23, 2018 15:44:45 GMT
This is going to be a middle of the road destruction filled movie that everyone will forget about in two weeks. If anyone expects Thanos to be a complex villain with a motivation beyond taking over the world, you are kidding yourself. Will it be a bad film? Probably not. Will it live up to the hype? Almost certainly not. As DC-Fan said, this is going to be TLJ all over again. The promotional material hasn't gotten me excited at all. I mean, I used to be a pretty big MCU fan, but I haven't purchased tickets and have no plans to at the moment. Unless I hear that this is a film that is well worth the price of admission, I actually won't be seeing this in the cinema. Btw, does anyone know when the world premiere is? I'm very curious to what the RT score will be... The world premiere is later today and the review embargo lifts sometime tomorrow, I can't remember when exactly. The social media embargo lifts after the premiere today US time. It premieres in theaters on Wednesday in Europe and Friday in the US. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 23, 2018 16:29:06 GMT
Well the whole article rests on the fake complaint about "Marvel villains" so it fails at its core. There were 6 CB movies last year and Marvel had the best 3. The Fox and DC villains were the worst ones. And then Marvel did pretty good this year with the BP villain too. But I guess a fake complaint doesn't need to match reality. This was really one of the only problems with TLJ. Countless fan theories that wanted the movie to go a certain way hurt the movie. When they didn't get that, people deemed it a bad movie. That might hurt Infinity War because there are a lot of fan theories on this movie. One of the biggest is where the soul stone is. Defenders of TLJ keep saying that over and over. That's not what happened at all. There were fan theories because there were narrative reasons for those theories in TFA. When TLJ just dropped those story lines and flushed them down the toilet, of course that's going to bother people. Plus turning Luke into a cowardly hermit is going to piss people off too. So yeah....IW could just kill off Thanos early in the movie and act like he's not important like TLJ did with Snoke. That's probably going to bother people. And IW could have Capt America run away and hide when Thanos shows up....that will bother people too. The Russos could stick in a sub-plot that does not effect the main plot with Hawkeye and Falcon going to save some race horses owned by evil rich people too. That's going to be criticized. Cap and IM could just be friends again and ignore the issue from Civil War. Fans will complain about that. It could happen. Everyone makes a movie people don't like at some point. Marvel has avoided it so far but it's inevitable. As other said, it would be a shame if it was this movie. Not about defending TLJ, just telling you that you are wrong. There were no narrative reasons for Luke being Rey's father or Obi Wan being her grandfather or her being a clone of Vader or being Palpatine's granddaughter or Snoke being Plagueis. Those are things fans wanted, but didn't get. Luke was never a cowardly hermit in TLJ. He made a mistake, went on to studied the Force and the Jedi and realized that there was no point to it. The ways of the Jedi is an endless cycle of Darksiders rising up. He had no "new hope" to wait on to grow up like Yoda and Kenobi. He decided to live his life out. And he realized he was wrong! I don't get the "Snoke is suppose to be this big important villain" when they've said that it was a build-a-villain with Kylo Ren. The race horse thing is just something that happened on their mission. It's not like they went there specifically for that. And I'm guessing the Cap and Tony thing is Kylo and Rey. She wanted to turn him back. She did kept calling him a monster for what he has done. She mostly hated him until she learned what happened to him. People have been waiting on this movie for 6 years. The expectations are supper high. I'm guessing that's why they are showing so many clips. |
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Post by salomonj on Apr 23, 2018 16:29:09 GMT
This is going to be a middle of the road destruction filled movie that everyone will forget about in two weeks. If anyone expects Thanos to be a complex villain with a motivation beyond taking over the world, you are kidding yourself. Will it be a bad film? Probably not. Will it live up to the hype? Almost certainly not. As DC-Fan said, this is going to be TLJ all over again. The promotional material hasn't gotten me excited at all. I mean, I used to be a pretty big MCU fan, but I haven't purchased tickets and have no plans to at the moment. Unless I hear that this is a film that is well worth the price of admission, I actually won't be seeing this in the cinema. Btw, does anyone know when the world premiere is? I'm very curious to what the RT score will be... The world premiere is later today and the review embargo lifts sometime tomorrow, I can't remember when exactly. The social media embargo lifts after the premiere today US time. It premieres in theaters on Wednesday in Europe and Friday in the US. Thanks, Kevin. I'll be sure to look out for the social media reactions today. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 23, 2018 16:33:08 GMT
This is going to be a middle of the road destruction filled movie that everyone will forget about in two weeks. If anyone expects Thanos to be a complex villain with a motivation beyond taking over the world, you are kidding yourself. Will it be a bad film? Probably not. Will it live up to the hype? Almost certainly not. As DC-Fan said, this is going to be TLJ all over again. The promotional material hasn't gotten me excited at all. I mean, I used to be a pretty big MCU fan, but I haven't purchased tickets and have no plans to at the moment. Unless I hear that this is a film that is well worth the price of admission, I actually won't be seeing this in the cinema. Btw, does anyone know when the world premiere is? I'm very curious to what the RT score will be... The world premiere is later today and the review embargo lifts sometime tomorrow, I can't remember when exactly. The social media embargo lifts after the premiere today US time. It premieres in theaters on Wednesday in Europe and Friday in the US. Yikes, guess I'll be going dark starting later today until Friday. It'll be a miracle if I avoid spoilers this time. |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Apr 23, 2018 16:47:26 GMT
The world premiere is later today and the review embargo lifts sometime tomorrow, I can't remember when exactly. The social media embargo lifts after the premiere today US time. It premieres in theaters on Wednesday in Europe and Friday in the US. Thanks, Kevin. I'll be sure to look out for the social media reactions today. One tweet I saw earlier said that the reviews can go up tomorrow at 3pm Pacific Time. |
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Post by harpospoke on Apr 24, 2018 5:28:37 GMT
Defenders of TLJ keep saying that over and over. That's not what happened at all. There were fan theories because there were narrative reasons for those theories in TFA. When TLJ just dropped those story lines and flushed them down the toilet, of course that's going to bother people. Plus turning Luke into a cowardly hermit is going to piss people off too. So yeah....IW could just kill off Thanos early in the movie and act like he's not important like TLJ did with Snoke. That's probably going to bother people. And IW could have Capt America run away and hide when Thanos shows up....that will bother people too. The Russos could stick in a sub-plot that does not effect the main plot with Hawkeye and Falcon going to save some race horses owned by evil rich people too. That's going to be criticized. Cap and IM could just be friends again and ignore the issue from Civil War. Fans will complain about that. It could happen. Everyone makes a movie people don't like at some point. Marvel has avoided it so far but it's inevitable. As other said, it would be a shame if it was this movie. Not about defending TLJ, just telling you that you are wrong. There were no narrative reasons for Luke being Rey's father or Obi Wan being her grandfather or her being a clone of Vader or being Palpatine's granddaughter or Snoke being Plagueis. Those are things fans wanted, but didn't get. Well first it doesn't actually matter if she is related to any of the heroes. Her background needs to be SOMETHING. She is too perfect at everything to spring forth from the ground from nothing. She is either a Mary Sue or has a background that would explain her abilities. They chose Mary Sue. Except that he was a coward. He actually said in the movie he foresaw the destruction of everything he, Han, and Leia worked for. He then chose to run away and hide instead of doing even the smallest thing to help his sister and his best friend. He didn't even bother to warn them what was coming. As a direct result of Luke's cowardice, Han and Leia's lives were destroyed forever. He could certainly change his mind about the Force. That's not related to his utter cowardice. Well obviously Snoke resonated with fans quite a bit...hence the speculation about him for 2 years. So there was something in TFA that made him important. Too many people were interested in him to deny that. Kylo is a bit of a loser. Hard to take him seriously. Rey is already better than him with no training. I could see a race horse thing just happening ...if it wasn't a movie. Things happen in movies for a reason if the movie is any good. The Cap and Tony thing is something you put in to "subvert expectations". No one would see that coming right? Everyone would expect there to be continuing repercussions from CW...but what if they just forgot the whole thing? That would be surprising to the fans! The critics apparently love stuff like that. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 24, 2018 17:30:07 GMT
Not about defending TLJ, just telling you that you are wrong. There were no narrative reasons for Luke being Rey's father or Obi Wan being her grandfather or her being a clone of Vader or being Palpatine's granddaughter or Snoke being Plagueis. Those are things fans wanted, but didn't get. Well first it doesn't actually matter if she is related to any of the heroes. Her background needs to be SOMETHING. She is too perfect at everything to spring forth from the ground from nothing. She is either a Mary Sue or has a background that would explain her abilities. They chose Mary Sue. Except that he was a coward. He actually said in the movie he foresaw the destruction of everything he, Han, and Leia worked for. He then chose to run away and hide instead of doing even the smallest thing to help his sister and his best friend. He didn't even bother to warn them what was coming. As a direct result of Luke's cowardice, Han and Leia's lives were destroyed forever. He could certainly change his mind about the Force. That's not related to his utter cowardice. Well obviously Snoke resonated with fans quite a bit...hence the speculation about him for 2 years. So there was something in TFA that made him important. Too many people were interested in him to deny that. Kylo is a bit of a loser. Hard to take him seriously. Rey is already better than him with no training. I could see a race horse thing just happening ...if it wasn't a movie. Things happen in movies for a reason if the movie is any good. The Cap and Tony thing is something you put in to "subvert expectations". No one would see that coming right? Everyone would expect there to be continuing repercussions from CW...but what if they just forgot the whole thing? That would be surprising to the fans! The critics apparently love stuff like that. That's the entire point: that she is a Mary Sue. The Force gave her high level powers and used her as an avatar until she learned to use them. And she learned to use the Force in TLJ. Her story in TLJ is that the Force needed someone to balance the Force because Snoke and Kylo had the Dark Side and no one had the light. Luke turned himself off from the Force. Rey is suppose to start training light side users (something I think they won't go into). Didn't he? I think Luke told them. They know that Kylo is Ben. They knew that the First Order was trouble and that Ben was high ranking in it. And Luke said he went off to study the Force and the Jedi to see where he went wrong. So, no, he did not just run away. The only thing about Snoke is that people wanted him to be the new Emperor type of character. In movie, the race horse thing just happened on the mission they were on for a message. It was parallel to the child slaves. But at the same time, out of context, that was the main reason for that mission. I do understand that the only reason for them having them go on that mission was for the rich people are bad message. You did watch Civil War until the end, right? He gave Tony a phone to call him when he needs help. In Infinity War, Cap, Widow, and Falcon are the Secret Avengers. Tony and Cap have pretty much kissed and made up at the end of the movie. |
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Post by harpospoke on Apr 24, 2018 19:31:00 GMT
Well first it doesn't actually matter if she is related to any of the heroes. Her background needs to be SOMETHING. She is too perfect at everything to spring forth from the ground from nothing. She is either a Mary Sue or has a background that would explain her abilities. They chose Mary Sue. Except that he was a coward. He actually said in the movie he foresaw the destruction of everything he, Han, and Leia worked for. He then chose to run away and hide instead of doing even the smallest thing to help his sister and his best friend. He didn't even bother to warn them what was coming. As a direct result of Luke's cowardice, Han and Leia's lives were destroyed forever. He could certainly change his mind about the Force. That's not related to his utter cowardice. Well obviously Snoke resonated with fans quite a bit...hence the speculation about him for 2 years. So there was something in TFA that made him important. Too many people were interested in him to deny that. Kylo is a bit of a loser. Hard to take him seriously. Rey is already better than him with no training. I could see a race horse thing just happening ...if it wasn't a movie. Things happen in movies for a reason if the movie is any good. The Cap and Tony thing is something you put in to "subvert expectations". No one would see that coming right? Everyone would expect there to be continuing repercussions from CW...but what if they just forgot the whole thing? That would be surprising to the fans! The critics apparently love stuff like that. That's the entire point: that she is a Mary Sue. The Force gave her high level powers and used her as an avatar until she learned to use them. And she learned to use the Force in TLJ. Her story in TLJ is that the Force needed someone to balance the Force because Snoke and Kylo had the Dark Side and no one had the light. Luke turned himself off from the Force. Rey is suppose to start training light side users (something I think they won't go into). Yuck. So this thing never ends? Luke was wrong then. Turning himself off changed nothing. That will just cause the Force to select someone new and make them into a Mary Sue who doesn't need training for the first time in the history of the Force. So he ran away to hide and left Leia and Han hanging for no reason. And of course if they defeat Kylo (won't be hard since he's a weak idiot) then the Force will select some random person to be the dark side user. ...Yawn.... Well they could hardly miss that it was Ben when he disappeared and reappeared as Kylo Ren. No exactly a low profile gig. How about a little help there, Luke? You know...so your friends won't see their lives completely destroyed?.... something you saw coming? I guess they didn't have a good library on Leia and Han's planet. Or maybe it was the blue milk. And of course Luke was wrong again according to TLJ so he's a double idiot now. Definitely they wanted him to be something more than nothing. Not really. They've still got huge issues to work through. If they ignore that in IW, it's going to be a problem. |
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